700PP 1980 or Later Race Car Super Lap: Circuito de la Sierra

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jnmjeeper
As disappointed as I have been with the past couple week's seasonals, simply because I have no interest running 700pp cars on Sierra, I appreciate your input. You are correct, not every challenge will please every player. For those of you that have enjoyed the LM cars on Sierra, I tip my hat. My hope is that we get to run some road cars around the circuit, or maybe just some Touring cars or GT3 cars. I've just never been one for the super fast LM or Formula cars. I'm too old for that kind of reflex. :):cheers:
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You are never too old, i run with the geezer club and we are all over 60,
Younger drivers are encouraged to run with us to see if they can keep up. haha:cheers::cheers:
 
So I gave the Pescarolo C60 Hybride a try. Specifically, I was using @shaunm80's tune for it. And I finally got silver!

Still, the car was feeling a bit squirrely under braking, so I decided to give my Toyota 88C-V another shot. (I don't remember whose tune I'm using on that.)

I got a 7.25.151! So close.

After yet another crash (my 6th or 7th of the night, I think, if not more), I decided to give it up for the night. Racing until just before going to bed is, in my experience, a recipe for bad sleep.

And of course, every attempt tonight, I got to see @ALB123's line quickly disappearing from me right from the start as usual. :D :cheers: I don't know how you guys get those lap times.
 
For anyone having trouble with gold on this event I would suggest doing the expert race a few times to better learn how the LMP drive on this track. (you can also make a few $ while you practice)

For me the least difficult 2 cars to drive for this event is the Toyota Minolta and Peugeot 905B. I drove the same way as I did in the expert event and got a time well below gold on my first try with each.

Good luck.
 
RuddRacer
For anyone having trouble with gold on this event I would suggest doing the expert race a few times to better learn how the LMP drive on this track. (you can also make a few $ while you practice)

For me the least difficult 2 cars to drive for this event is the Toyota Minolta and Peugeot 905B. I drove the same way as I did in the expert event and got a time well below gold on my first try with each.

Good luck.
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100% agreed.

I have been doing the expert event for a couple of weekends, golded this TT with 905B in no time at all.
 
RuddRacer
For anyone having trouble with gold on this event I would suggest doing the expert race a few times to better learn how the LMP drive on this track. (you can also make a few $ while you practice)

For me the least difficult 2 cars to drive for this event is the Toyota Minolta and Peugeot 905B. I drove the same way as I did in the expert event and got a time well below gold on my first try with each.

Good luck.
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Active steering helps a lot with the Pescarolo to get gold easily, it has a lot more grip. It's funny that I can't gold the overtaking challenge but I had gold in the TT on my 2nd try after remembering where were the bumps.
Edit: I also turned the driving line on since this was the first time for me driving around Sierra.
 
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RobertM525
So I gave the Pescarolo C60 Hybride a try. Specifically, I was using @shaunm80's tune for it. And I finally got silver!

Still, the car was feeling a bit squirrely under braking, so I decided to give my Toyota 88C-V another shot. (I don't remember whose tune I'm using on that.)

I got a 7.25.151! So close.

After yet another crash (my 6th or 7th of the night, I think, if not more), I decided to give it up for the night. Racing until just before going to bed is, in my experience, a recipe for bad sleep.

And of course, every attempt tonight, I got to see @ALB123's line quickly disappearing from me right from the start as usual. :D :cheers: I don't know how you guys get those lap times.
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Hang in there Robert!! Here's a tip that may help,, on the first lap - IF - you go off and get a DQ - ignore that and continue driving the course as best you can, the second lap you'll notice the tires hold just a slight bit better and you'll see yourself running a better, more in control lap. The reason you're seeing the other guys/gals streak away from you at the start,, VERY LIKELY they are just commencing their 2nd lap because they can charge the START/FINISH line so much faster than the opening lap. Best of luck partner!! Try SHAUNM80'S (EXETER Garage) or PRAIANO's tune on that car. and the last thought,, are you using a wheel or controller? A wheel helps alot for those of us who have them.
 
Daduce1947
Hang in there Robert!! Here's a tip that may help,, on the first lap - IF - you go off and get a DQ - ignore that and continue driving the course as best you can, the second lap you'll notice the tires hold just a slight bit better and you'll see yourself running a better, more in control lap. The reason you're seeing the other guys/gals streak away from you at the start,, VERY LIKELY they are just commencing their 2nd lap because they can charge the START/FINISH line so much faster than the opening lap. Best of luck partner!! Try SHAUNM80'S (EXETER Garage) or PRAIANO's tune on that car. and the last thought,, are you using a wheel or controller? A wheel helps alot for those of us who have them.
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Why would the tires hold better? There is no tire wear in TT but how can it get better? And honestly, 7 minutes for a 2nd lap, the top runners who probably know the track by heart would just do a 180° turn and go back for a head start and save 6 minutes of driving.
 
Vitessekid
Edit: I also turned the driving line on since this was the first time for me driving around Sierra.
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Oh, the driving line. It totally sucks on this track. It has you braking way too early on a lot of turns, going full-throttle over the bumps, and sometimes gives you no warning when you're approaching a turn that'll leave you understeering into a barrier if you don't at least partially lift off the gas. You'd think that it would be set up to show you how to do a lap conservatively and get at least bronze, but it's totally inconsistent: reckless and at (or beyond) the limit on some turns and insanely over-cautious in others.

Which, actually, is a lot like how it is on the Nordschleife, really. :)

Still, it's better than trying to memorize every corner and at least it gives you somewhere to judge braking zones at, even if it's just "how far into the red do I go before I actually hit the brakes?" :)

Daduce1947
Hang in there Robert!! Here's a tip that may help,, on the first lap - IF - you go off and get a DQ - ignore that and continue driving the course as best you can, the second lap you'll notice the tires hold just a slight bit better and you'll see yourself running a better, more in control lap. The reason you're seeing the other guys/gals streak away from you at the start,, VERY LIKELY they are just commencing their 2nd lap because they can charge the START/FINISH line so much faster than the opening lap. Best of luck partner!! Try SHAUNM80'S (EXETER Garage) or PRAIANO's tune on that car. and the last thought,, are you using a wheel or controller? A wheel helps alot for those of us who have them.
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I'm using a wheel (G27). I can't imagine doing this with a DS3. :)

It's about 50/50 whether I continue to finish a lap after I screw up or not. If I mess up 30 seconds or a minute and a half into my lap, I just restart now, since it's such a colossal waste of time to finish a red lap. I had been continuing them just for the practice (otherwise you never see anything except the beginning of the track), but not as much any more.
 
Really PD? Sierra with overpowered/700pp cars again? I thought the last seasonal was bad at Sierra. Not even going to attempt like the last one since PD doesn't give us any margin of error, like a REAL race would be.
 
I beat the expert race on Sierra with some ease, but this one is taking me a while mainly because i love to screw up in the midle of the race.
Anyway the time is not a issue here because you can use Racing Soft tires, so i'll try something very different.
 
Vitessekid
Active steering helps a lot with the Pescarolo to get gold easily, it has a lot more grip. It's funny that I can't gold the overtaking challenge but I had gold in the TT on my 2nd try after remembering where were the bumps.
Edit: I also turned the driving line on since this was the first time for me driving around Sierra.
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You are correct @Vitessekid about the Pescarolo being the "faster" and active steering will make the car much easier to drive.

Maybe I should have clarified that my suggestion was for those who prefer not to use driving aids other than ABS.
 
RuddRacer
For anyone having trouble with gold on this event I would suggest doing the expert race a few times to better learn how the LMP drive on this track. (you can also make a few $ while you practice)

For me the least difficult 2 cars to drive for this event is the Toyota Minolta and Peugeot 905B. I drove the same way as I did in the expert event and got a time well below gold on my first try with each.

Good luck.
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I used the tune you posted for the Toyota Minolta in the other thread, I finished with a 7:10.772. I know I could have gotten close to being under 7 minutes, but for the second part of the track I took it easy. I just wanted to make it to the finish line with a valid lap.
 
Got it. With the Mazda LM55. No tuning involved so it's stock with RS tyres, no aiding whatsoever and with the DS3. Took easy on half of the track and got a 7:20.451 time, just enough.
I won't try to get better, because i'm sure i will invalidate every lap i try to lol
I was trying to use the Mercedes AMG CLK, but i needed a tuning since this car oversteers a lot.
 
Vitessekid
Why would the tires hold better? There is no tire wear in TT but how can it get better? And honestly, 7 minutes for a 2nd lap, the top runners who probably know the track by heart would just do a 180° turn and go back for a head start and save 6 minutes of driving.
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Can't tell you why Vitessekid, it just does. Just as the second set of tires in a pit stop race ALWAYS lay down a better, faster and quicker lap - even though the tank has more fuel. Unless you can write software programs you'll not understand how nor why. I'm not that bad a driver in the TT's and I never do the turn around you're talking about. Every trip around this and NBRing, even though we've been playing this series since the first one in '97 - we learn just a little more. It's about playing "the GAME" for all it has to give I suppose.
 
Daduce1947
Can't tell you why Vitessekid, it just does. Just as the second set of tires in a pit stop race ALWAYS lay down a better, faster and quicker lap - even though the tank has more fuel. Unless you can write software programs you'll not understand how nor why. I'm not that bad a driver in the TT's and I never do the turn around you're talking about. Every trip around this and NBRing, even though we've been playing this series since the first one in '97 - we learn just a little more. It's about playing "the GAME" for all it has to give I suppose.
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I don't either here, because you can't go through the final corner at full speed when you start anyways unless I'm missing on something incredibly obvious.
 
This was easy after so much practice on the expert race, and with RS tires.

Small issue was that some of the track side objects I got used to as break markers or turn in points were missing because other track version.

Nice to focus on the track instead of the AI. I like the combination of race and TT. Also, good to see some VGT cars on the leader board.
 
Arp 273
This was easy after so much practice on the expert race, and with RS tires.

Small issue was that some of the track side objects I got used to as break markers or turn in points were missing because other track version.

Nice to focus on the track instead of the AI. I like the combination of race and TT. Also, good to see some VGT cars on the leader board.
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I'm with you Arp 273.:cheers:

These last two events are/were tons of fun and IT IS SWEET to see some of the VGT cars competitive and being used in these events. I say twice thumbs UP PD!! 👍👍 MORE PLEZ!:)
 
Got it! (Using the Toyota MINOLTA 88C-V.) 7:22.152! Not much over gold, but it is over the gold time and puts me in 6,723rd place. :)

I was using AT, TC3 (I think—maybe it was 2), ABS1, and the driving line. Which is pretty hardcore for me on an event like this. :)

I had a pretty big screw up 5 minutes into the lap (in sector 8), but managed to keep it on the track, thank god.

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This event definitely made me understand I'm not an expert driver as I thought! Still can't get a silver with a Mazda LM55. 7:50 would be a quite easy time but on *every* lap I do at least 1 stupid error and I fail!
Considering to buy a Pescarolo, for this event and the other one on Sierra.
I liked the track by the way, even if there are a few jumps that sometimes made me land on the dirt.

Edit: which setup should I use for Pescarolo C60?
 
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stelio
This event definitely made me understand I'm not an expert driver as I thought! Still can't get a silver with a Mazda LM55. 7:50 would be a quite easy time but on *every* lap I do at least 1 stupid error and I fail!
Considering to buy a Pescarolo, for this event and the other one on Sierra.
I liked the track by the way, even if there are a few jumps that sometimes made me land on the dirt.

Edit: which setup should I use for Pescarolo C60?
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I'd recommend EXETER Garage :bowdown:or Praiano :bowdown:. Look back in earlier posts on this thread for "Shaunm80" :bowdown: posts,, he is EXETER Garage tuner. There's a link in his signature to his tune's. He can get you to the !! GOLD !! in many of these LMP as well as other cars. You may need to do just a few very minor adjusts to fit your driving style but these guys have built super tunes and enjoy sharing them. Just be sure to give them the thanks they're due. :cheers:
 
ALB123
I love the look of the Toyota Minolta. Oh, how I wish it were a Premium car.
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Indeed. Group C cars are great. Too bad this one isn't available:

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Or this one:

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:D

Still, the Toyota did the job for me here and it did it while looking better than the Pescarolo. :) (I'm not a fan of open-cockpit prototypes.)

Vitessekid
How do you guys remember the sectors? am I the only one in the top 15 who doesn't know the track?
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I know I don't. I only know I screwed up in the sector I did because I checked it with the "Live Timing" mode in the replay when I was taking pictures. :)

stelio
This event definitely made me understand I'm not an expert driver as I thought!
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Events like this are as much about knowing the track as driving ability. Knowing where you can push is as important as how you go about doing it. :)
stelio
Still can't get a silver with a Mazda LM55. 7:50 would be a quite easy time but on *every* lap I do at least 1 stupid error and I fail!
Considering to buy a Pescarolo, for this event and the other one on Sierra.
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You might consider giving the Toyota MINOLTA 88C-V a shot. It worked for me. I found it easier to drive fast than the Pescarolo. (I'd post the tune I'm using, but I'm at work. It may well be Praiano's.)
 

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