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82nd Running Of The Le Mans 24 Hours - 14/15 June 2014.
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I know, we discussed that and I'm saying is that they should focus on that rather than a marketing stunt.
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The LMP2 engines aren't related to the LMP1 engine which is planned, though. The thing about the ZEOD is it was a better development choice because the engine is so related to the plans.
Once again, how do you know Porsche didn't use that info from last years GTE cars? Why else would they enter the GTE class with a works team?
And yes, but even last year the 030 was pretty awful compared to the Audis. It takes 3 years to win Le Mans. Toyota are set to win after 3 years at the track, Porsche are running 4th at best, with no real development at Sarthe and... Audi, I think that speaks for itself.
The point is signing the LMP would be like signing the R-One up. It'd be off the pace and thus, get no media coverage unless it was pitting. Signing up the ZEOD was genius as it was 2 birds really. Engine development, future road car development and you get people talking.
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Hopefully nothing technical.
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Wouldn't call building a legit car a stunt. They had RML involved, one of the most respected sportscar teams out there helping. They probably have learned for next year. And Nissan have hinted they might do something different next year and it wouldn;t surprise me if electric technology is incorporated into the GTR.
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Since when was it slower than everything else? They didn't perform badly... it wasn't the new tech that broke...
Oh and our very own @adam46 just got a shout out on Eurosport
He's right you know! ^
Le Mans Hour Eleven:
Even though the #98 GT AM Aston Martin was falling down the order fast in the pits, the Aston Martin of Bruno Senna was still leading in GTE PRO. The question was, how long would that last? The #51 of Vilander was right on the bumper of Senna, and challenged going into the second Mulsanne chicane. However, he did not make it around the outside. This opened the door for the #74 Corvette of Tommy Milner, who made the pass for second in class.
The #91 Porsche was still in the wars. It had been in pits for over 20 minutes and still had mechanics draped all over the front end. The #98 Aston Martin was now back out on track after around a half hour in the pits, but was now sitting outside the top 10 in GTE AM.
The #12 Rebellion had arrived in the pits yet again, and was once again wheeled into the garage. The #2 Audi made a stop, and retained second position with Andre Lotterer now behind the wheel. The #12 Rebellion was now back on track with Nick Heidfeld, but had fell behind the #8 Toyota of Lapierre.
Bruno Senna had built a small gap over Tommy Milner. Senna was on a roll, setting the fastest laps of the race for that car. However, Milner was doing the exact same thing in the Corvette, and was only 1 second behind Senna. Toni Vilander was third, just five seconds back from the battle.
Following the three minute penalty earlier in the race, the #77 Dempsey Porsche was now in sixth. Dempsey was put into the car, but started the engine before the car was off the jacks… That’s a breach of the regulations, much like spinning your tyres in the pits. Will they be punished by the ACO?
Once again, the #8 Toyota of Sebastien Buemi was in the garage with more problems. Since the car is now 12 laps down, it’s almost certainly out of contention.
After eleven hours, the LMP1 leader is still Alex Wurz in the Toyota. LMP2 is still led by Alex Brundle in the OAK Racing Ligier, while GTE PRO is led by Bruno Senna, five seconds clear of Tommy Milner. The #95 of Kristian Poulsen still leads in GTE AM.
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Can we please, for the love of La Sarthe, shut up about the ZEOD? Ok, we get it, some people think it's a piece of history, some think it's a piece of something else and nobody is moving his own position an inch, so let's leave it at that.
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For the night it's been remarkably incident free so far.
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Agree. Everything quiet in LMP1 and LMP2. GTEPRO cooled down a bit, GTEAM with no surprises either. And the list of retirements is rather short.
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LMP2 engines do apply to LMP1 because you can run whatever power plant you want. They'll get info from their LMP2 engine for their non-hybrid engine. The Toyota wasn't bad last year, it just wasn't the Audi. The Porsche 911's use completely different engines and chassis. The only thing they could possibly get are minor electronic components. They race the 911 to race the 911, as they do the world over. It's a different batch of competition from the LMP1 crowd, that's why they do it. I don't understand your last paragraph but maybe your a little confused by what I'm saying. I'm not saying Nissan should have been in LMP1 this year, I'm saying that they should have spent the money time and resources preparing their LMP1 car for next year.
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just make another thread about the Zeod/the future of racing.
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There is one anyhow.
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Neville is brilliant though.
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I'm sick enough as it is hearing about the great publicity stunt that is Formula E - can we shush about the Zeod? History or not, it dropped out way before everyone else. New technology doesn't impress me much if it doesn't work, but I'm glad it got the chance at least. Same with the SkyActiv Mazdas in TUSCC.
ANYWAY.
Did I just hear radio transmissions from the #2 Audi indicating something wrong with a damper?
ANYWAY.
Did I just hear radio transmissions from the #2 Audi indicating something wrong with a damper?
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Since when was it slower than everything else? They didn't perform badly... it wasn't the new tech that broke...
Oh and our very own @adam46 just got a shout out on Eurosport
My bad. It was only almost as "slow" as the GTE cars. And how does being forced to retire after just 5 laps not qualify as performing badly? Regardless of what broke, if it wasn't an accident caused by someone else, that's still a horrible performance. And what's the point of "making history" when you're doing it with something that isn't relevant to the current regulations or current road cars? When Audi won Le Mans with a diesel car, it was relevant. This isn't.
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Yeah, heard the same thing being discussed on EuroSport UK
Somebody thought this was the WRC...
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I don't mean to blow this comment off at all, but we've kind of all ready covered all that territory over the course of the conversation. And yes, I guarantee hybrid will be used on the LMP1.
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It's not complaining! It's an opinion.
But I shall go to bed now. So you all enjoy the race until my return in the morning
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