82nd Running Of The Le Mans 24 Hours - 14/15 June 2014.
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Where do I say that electric platforms shouldn't be developed? My words were that Nissan should be focusing on the hybrid on their LMP1 platform. Not one time did I say that hybridization was pointless. On we know Nissan's reasons because they told us their goal was to do the first all electric lap of Le Mans. That was their goal, marketing.
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Well, it does look a bit... cocky, no?
Did it ever occur to you that, maybe, it wasn't just a mutually exclusive decision between entering the ZEOD or winning the 2014 24 Heures du Mans for Nissan?
I'll be gone for good now
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LMP1 is a giant money pit. You get some stuff out, but you put tons in. It's competition only really.
G56 is like a dream for Nissan, because it gives them a platform to show what they stand for as a brand. They can invest in new technology, get experience, get a ton of exposure, gain fans, and generate a ton of money.
G56 is like a dream for Nissan, because it gives them a platform to show what they stand for as a brand. They can invest in new technology, get experience, get a ton of exposure, gain fans, and generate a ton of money.
If you were in charge of a big car company, and took the mutual respect with sports fans option over the thing that gives you money (y'know, to put into competitive racing), your company would flop. Why? Businesses don't survive on respect. They survive on sales and money.
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Please shaddup about the Zeod.
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#8 TS040 into garage
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#8 going into the garage!
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About 13 hours left! 
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They just stuck some tape on the #8 TS040s nose and sent it back to the track .
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Hit a wall at half 11 so went over to the ford chicane when the 2 astons and a vette were battling, safe to say I'm wait awake now tucking into some pizza then going to get me a Nutella crepe
Brain food
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Porsche's LMP1 isn't a GT car, they really aren't using any of that. Porsche has been developing their car for 3 years now. Toyota got forced to accelerate their program to grow much quicker than they planned to sustain, as they were pushed by the FIA and ACO following Peugeot pulling out of the mega hyped first year of the WEC. They even changed the points rules to allow Toyota to have a chance at the title after missing Sebring. And it's still going to be a first year effort regardless. The question is if they want to spend the time before their side program doing side projects or doing what Porsche did and developing for 3 years. And don't forget Nissan has all the LMP2 engines they can collect data from.
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I was hoping the ZEOD could last longer, because the platform could make for some great hybrid tech for their next year LMP1
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Just posted on FIA WEC FB page:
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We'll respect is the goal of advertising. The point of LMP1 for the manufacturers is to sell cars and you do that by being competitive. It's the old saying, "what wins on Sunday sells on Monday." When your racing you are advertising to the race fans. You look at Audi who pumps massive efforts through their cars, get results, and reflects it in their marketing. That's what Nissan should be doing, because at the end of the respect from the fans is what they are racing for.
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I have to go do stuff in life. :'c
I'll be back soon.
I'll be back soon.
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I love the "making history" arguement. I think I'll try to get a car running on something super silly and then enter it as a garage 56 car with the goal to make history of doing one lap around Le Mans with it. Sure, I won't be competitive. In fact, I'd be a complete waste of space and even be a small safety hazard when driving around the track slower than anything else, but I'll be making history!
To me, it's a horrible arguement for why the Zeod should race at Le Mans. It might very well have been their goal, but it's a pathetic one. They performed horribly, offered nothing for the viewers or the race as a whole, nor has their work resulted in any serious advancements in electrical race cars as far as I can tell (although I could certainly be wrong on that).
A pointless car. Irrelevant to both the new regulations and road cars.
To me, it's a horrible arguement for why the Zeod should race at Le Mans. It might very well have been their goal, but it's a pathetic one. They performed horribly, offered nothing for the viewers or the race as a whole, nor has their work resulted in any serious advancements in electrical race cars as far as I can tell (although I could certainly be wrong on that).
A pointless car. Irrelevant to both the new regulations and road cars.
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To be honest, I fail to see how barely completing a handful of laps in a 24-hour race represents good marketing. A bit like the Mazda SkyActiv Diesel cars in TUSCC this year - how does promoting diesel tech equate to being slower than GT cars or spending most races in the pits?
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Or don't waste time on history and make a serious LMP. It's all about what they focus on and if they want to focus on marketing over development, yeah, it will probably be lack luster.
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