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Well, if Porsche do decide to pull out and no one takes their place, LMP1 is pretty much dead yes. Although, I do find it a little hard to believe they'll do it. Such a large part of Porsches brand identity is motorsport.
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Well, if Porsche do decide to pull out and no one takes their place, LMP1 is pretty much dead yes. Although, I do find it a little hard to believe they'll do it. Such a large part of Porsches brand identity is motorsport.
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- UnkaD
Don't tell me your jaw doesn't drop to the floor every time you see a new Chevy.
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- catamount39
But they've still got GTE for Le Mans so there is actually nothing technically holding them in LMP1.
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Every single Chevy is a piece of garbage. Unless it's a Corvette, SS or Camaro.
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Not necessarily, if the privateers are given an even playing field we could have a great grid of Toyota's, Ginetta's (including 2 run by Rebellion), CLM, a couple from Perrin and the SMP Dallara, there should be enough there to make a decent race.
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Except - unless you are a GT racing fan - no one remembers who won the individual categories. It's overall wins people remember. No LMP1, no shot at the big cup. Le Mans victories are powerful PR tools.
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So explain their opinion of that from 1999 - 2013? A time when they only ran GT's (and an LMP2 here in America for a few brief years)?
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That requires considerable changes to the regulations. Cost cutting and probably simplifying and standardising a number of the hybrid components to allow privateers to use them and be competitive. Coincidently, cost cutting is one of the demands from Peugeot for them to seriously consider reentering. Win-win maybe?
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I'd agree with that, with the likes of Ginetta making a privateer LMP1 for next year and what not, the numbers would certainly be decent. That said, if they were to be competitive with Toyota, then the regs would have to be tweaked. That would have to be done by either simplifying the hybrid systems used, or get rid of them altogether.
Another option would be to include DPI regs, but that would effectively mean LMP2 would be the lead class, since DPI is so close to LMP2. Mind you that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, as long as manufactures were willing to commit. Either way, I'd imagine one of the main reasons manufactures aren't queuing up for LMP1, is due to the hybrid regulations, which are very expensive and complicated to develop.
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Porsche was on the verge of bankruptcy at the end of the nineties, which is why they vanished in the first place. What took them so long to get back on the horse, I don't know.
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I thought that DPi should be moved to LMP1 sometime in the future since its inception. That or allow DPi manufacturers to run LMP1-L if they actually run LMP1 spec machinery.
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- bramturismo
Is the Radio Le Mans live radio not available?
They have a live stream, but I don't have unlimited internet so if possible I'd rather not watch a stream...
They have a live stream, but I don't have unlimited internet so if possible I'd rather not watch a stream...
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I'm using their radio stream off of their website.
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LMP2000 says otherwise.
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The program was cancelled with just a single prototype built. My point still stands.
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Yea good point, they could do that, but either way, I'd imagine the best way to include more machinery would be to get rid/vastly simplify the Hybrid part of things. Then you would have to make sure there is a big enough gap, performance wise, between LMP2 and LMP1.
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Well that was just unnecessary.
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#88 Porsche and #26 Oreca contact at Porsche curves.
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Incident at the Porsche curves. GTE AM rear ended by a LMP2.
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