darkblu
just finished the tuning guide part 1 - a very sane piece of writing, i must say. and one that nicely fits in the gap that polyphony left in the documentation aspect of the game. an overall mighty useful text - big kudos!
i have a qustion though. you say that the camber angle increasing from zero on (or toward negatives in real world terms) gradually decreases traction in the straights. but you don't seem to mention anything about the relation of the effect to tyres hardness there - should not the camber-angle traction effect also depend on the hardness of the tyre too - i.e. for tyres in the soft end of the spectrum the traction loss effect should increase at a lower rate compared to harder tyres. same in cornering - the 'escape limit' angle should increase with tyre softness. otherwise i totally agree that setting the camber angle is a black art, i.e. a game of massive statistics, particularly if you're looking for the maximal gain - the perfect camber angle before 'escape limit' (i.e. the peak of the grip function) would differ from corner to corner and from driver to driver.
You are quite right that real world camber settings are very tyre sensitive, the guides (and glad you like Pt.1) are however written with a GT4 focus in mind and I personally have not found any significant benefit in running higher camber values with specific camber settings.
Thats not however to say that I have been able to test every tyre/car/corner combo in the game, hence the strong focus in the guide in getting people to
see what works for them.
I would however be careful with suggestions that tyres can be broken down into such basic groups as softer = slower loss of traction, etc. As real world tyres with vary massively dependent on a huge range of variables. Many high-grip race tyres actually have a very quick transition across the limit of the slip angle, others don't.
I'm also a believer that camber settings are particularly strongly effected by an individuals driving style, which is one of my main aims for the guides, to try and avoid putting to much focus on any particular driving style (ie mine). I hope in that regard I got things right.
BTW Have not had any time to play around with Ginetta settings, will try tonight.
Regards
Scaff
OK - I've given your settings a few laps at the High Speed Ring and my first thought confim what I had suspected in advance. And its nothing to do with your set-up, the Ginetta is just not suited to this track and the speeds involved.
In regard to your set-up I found it a little over-damped for my liking and running a little to high, my settings for the car on Semi-race were as follows
Spring Rate - 5.5 / 3.0
Ride Height - 92 / 92
Damper - 3 / 2
Camber 3.2 / 2.5
What the car is screaming for is downforce, but it will not take a wing, and as a result is always going to be a nightmare above 100 mph.
BTW one thing I did notice was you went for Weight Reduction Stage 3, I must confess I rarely go this far with a lot of cars as its not normally worth the money. In this case its Cr.21,000 for a 13 kg reduction in weight, which is over Cr.1,600 per kilo. Given the very low weight of the car to start, I personaly would save the money.
The Ginetta is a great little car, I just didn't really enjoy it on this track if I am honest. For me its more suited to the more technical tracks, I find it a great challenge at Deep Forest or Trail Mountain.
Regards
Scaff
