A Globalist Take Over, Is It Really Happening?

[Alex p.]

Its opinion, and I am not a person who believes governments don't cover things up, or do underhand things to keep the public out of it. I know they do.
This is the problem I have with stuff like this and the reason I behaved badly earlier (no excuse).
It's things like this and other conspiricy theories that imo enable governments to get away with real wrongs.
I think we would both agree that the governments commit enough of those.

It's very difficult to explain to people like you what is really going on. The important thing is understanding psychology (basics) and mentalities, once you find out what sort of mentality most of the very high-ups in politics, medicine research and technology have, you will understand that anything could happen in a very short time. These people do not see any value in you or anyone else, not even in themselfes, and that's the real problem. The only things pushing them in life is the greed for things and to control everything and everybody. Not to sound like an ass, but the reality is that most of them are paranoid psychopaths, not capable of showing any remource for what they do and are responsible for. For example, you should know that pretty much every fought war started as a result of a false flag operation, ALONE THIS, tells a lot I think. Not only about them, but also about the general public, how gullible we all are, and easy to manipulate and give up all of our values as human beings and go to foreign countries to kill others for what? For what exactly? We ourselfes don't even know and yet we do it. You get the point?

Let me be clear, I am not all doom and gloom about the world, I see many positive things in the world, and I know many things today are MUCH better than things even before 20 years, let alone hundreds or thousands of years. All of this STILL doesn't change the fact, that there is a serious threat right now, threatening every single human living on this planet.

 

[Skuh]

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Well i've seen some interesting links on the internet in my time , can't remember them now though sorry , was quite a while ago that I looked into this topic . However in these days of digital media it's incredibly hard to tell who is telling the truth or not .

Many people who dig deeper into these theories , or accept said theories as even a mere possibility , are labelled with the conspiracy theorist tag .

This is true, and i am guilty of this myself, but it is a conspiricy theory.

I don't think that's entirely fair at all to be honest , as in life there are always 2 sides to every story and factual events can be mis-reported no matter what side of the globe that you live on .

Also true, but that doesn't make every story credible by any means.



My stance would be that global deception is a real possibility . And who knows what lengths some people in power would go to to gain more power and control ?

Depends, to have a global deception, it would have to be far the good of the people otherwise governments wouldnt agree to it as they would be kicked out. So I do think it is possible for a global deception, but i dont think it is possible for a global deception for something like a new world order order for anything rreally detrimental for the people of the world.
This is not true of single governments. or smalll allegiances.

I envisage the current situation like this ;

1. The World is overpopulated and we cannot be sustained in current growth
2. We are running out of natural resources to distribute to the masses
3. Something would need to change in terms of lowering our numbers and / or inventing new technology to ensure our continuation

I would agree with this 100%

If you were powerful and had to make some sort of choice , then what choice would that have to be ?

The choice is easy,
Limit population while trying to invent technology.

the hard part is doing it.

 

[TJC_69]

The choice is easy,
Limit population while trying to invent technology.

the hard part is doing it.

Points noted 👍

For the good of the people yes , or even the lie of it being good for the people perhaps ?

In the choice statement I referred to , I wouldn't rule out mass genocide or culling of numbers as a possibility .

In that I mean that I wouldn't want to be the person that had that power , control or psychopathic capability of doing so .

 

[Exorcet]

That's the (their) plan. Also, never underestimate the power private enterprises in the technological (military) sector have. I would bet all my money they have stuff working, that makes things from sci-fi movies look like toys. Yep, that's my honest opinion. I might add that our "official" military forces have LOTS of behind closed curtains stuff going on, there where is power, there will always be ego and will to missuse this power, it's not some fancy saying, it's simply the truth and ANYONE, who has basic intelligence and is honest to himself, will recognize this.

A pre-organised , man made event perhaps on a large scale ? Let's suppose that a large government could be capable of such a smoke screen . People would panic and would look to their government for guidance at such time .

They could even tell us we were being attacked by aliens ... How would we the people know if they were telling the truth or not ?

Tricky one ...

Well, of all this assumes that "they" are on a massive scale, have the same agenda, and are 100% leak proof. I don't see how they would do it. Let's say for example that the US fakes an alien invasion to control citizens. How are they going to get Europe (or for that matter China) to cooperate? China would probably jump on it for the mass Western brain washing that it would be, and Europe probably wouldn't like a sudden and random change in American behavior.

And how would they even fake an alien attack anyway? Would they also have on their side every single person who could identify a Tomahawk missile or B-2 bomber? All the scientists who are watching space? Etc.

As for the technology level of militaries/industry, firstly they're not all unified as one entity. Secondly, while some things certainly are classified, militaries are not the center of all research. They'll often borrow from the outside, and it's a safe bet that public technology won't be generations behind military tech.

 

[Skuh]

It's very difficult to explain to people like you what is really going on. The important thing is understanding psychology (basics) and mentalities, once you find out what sort of mentality most of the very high-ups in politics, medicine research and technology have, you will understand that anything could happen in a very short time. These people do not see any value in you or anyone else, not even in themselfes, and that's the real problem. The only things pushing them in life is the greed for things and to control everything and everybody. Not to sound like an ass, but the reality is that most of them are paranoid psychopaths, not capable of showing any remource for what they do and are responsible for. For example, you should know that pretty much every fought war started as a result of a false flag operation, ALONE THIS, tells a lot I think. Not only about them, but also about the general public, how gullible we all are, and easy to manipulate and give up all of our values as human beings and go to foreign countries to kill others for what? For what exactly? We ourselfes don't even know and yet we do it. You get the point?

Let me be clear, I am not all doom and gloom about the world, I see many positive things in the world, and I know many things today are MUCH better than things even before 20 years, let alone hundreds or thousands of years. All of this STILL doesn't change the fact, that there is a serious threat right now, threatening every single human living on this planet.

People like me? Please explain

That is not how those people are at all. Some will be, but the fact you think all people in those positions are like that does show a somewhat naive view of the world. Things are not black and white. people are not always good and bad. Most people are capable of both and most of the worlds leaders are not paranoid pyscopaths. This is simply not true.
Not every war was started by a false flag operation at all. In fact quite to the contrary. For thousands for thousands of years it was customary to let your enemy know exactly who was giving them grief. I have studied military history for 21 years and this is overwhelmingly the case.

 

[TJC_69]

Well, of all this assumes that "they" are on a massive scale, have the same agenda, and are 100% leak proof. I don't see how they would do it. Let's say for example that the US fakes an alien invasion to control citizens. How are they going to get Europe (or for that matter China) to cooperate? China would probably jump on it for the mass Western brain washing that it would be, and Europe probably wouldn't like a sudden and random change in American behavior.

And how would they even fake an alien attack anyway? Would they also have on their side every single person who could identify a Tomahawk missile or B-2 bomber? All the scientists who are watching space? Etc.

As for the technology level of militaries/industry, firstly they're not all unified as one entity. Secondly, while some things certainly are classified, militaries are not the center of all research. They'll often borrow from the outside, and it's a safe bet that public technology won't be generations behind military tech.

Agreed . Could only realistically happen if everyone was singing from the same unified story . If such a story had giant holes in it , it would collapse 👍

 

[Alex p.]

@ Skuh

You didn't get my point. I am talking of what?...0.0001 percent of the human population, which is in VERY high power positions with VERY sick mentalities. That is my point. Make whatever you like of that information. I do not plan to discus this topic with you any longer, not because I disrespect you, or am pissed of, simply because I KNOW (because I learned) that is useless, to some extent. The video I posted makes a very, very valid point, people need to find out for themselfes, they don't want to hear it all from someone, because it is too much crazy information at once. So I gave the most important information I have, and it is your choice to do with it whatever you like (reject it/look further into it by your own).
With people like you I meant people, who are not aware of certain, very important information about certain topics regarding how the world is run and what dangers we are opposed to. Don't take things so personally.

Alright, my job here is done, I must go, my people need me.

 

[Sam48]

That is not how those people are at all. Some will be, but the fact you think all people are like that does show a somewhat naive view of the world. Things are not black and white. people are not always good and bad. Most people are capable of both and most of the worlds leaders are not paranoid pyscopaths. This is simply not true.
Not every war was started by a false flag operation at all. In fact quite to the contrary. For thousands for thousands of years it was customary to let your enemy know exactly who was giving them grief. I have studied military history for 21 years and this is overwhelmingly the case.

I don't think it could be put more simply. What Alex stated was as simple as it gets. If there was any simpler way of putting it, it would be as follows: To much power in the hands of too few people leads to greed and tyranny practically by default. It's simply human nature. There are truly evil people in this world who hold high positions. People who could care less about anyone lower than them and would do anything to gain more power by any means necessary. People like this do exist. Now, whether they are manipulating politics and slowly trying to forcefully, but quietly, insert a world government upon us is not known. But, as stated in the OP, we do seem to slowly be losing our freedoms.

 

[Skuh]

@ Skuh

You didn't get my point. I am talking of what?...0.0001 percent of the human population, which is in VERY high power positions with VERY sick mentalities. That is my point. Make whatever you like of that information. I do not plan to discus this topic with you any longer, not because I disrespect you, or am pissed of, simply because I KNOW (because I learned) that is useless, to some extent. The video I posted makes a very, very valid point, people need to find out for themselfes, they don't want to hear it all from someone, because it is too much crazy information at once. So I gave the most important information I have, and it is your choice to do with it whatever you like (reject it/look further into it by your own).
With people like you I meant people, who are not aware of certain, very important information about certain topics regarding how the wolrd is run and what dangers we are opposed to. Don't take things so personally.

Alright, my job here is done, I must go, my people need me.

Didn't take it personally at all, just didn't know what you meant.

You're wrong that is not the kind of person I am, but I'm not offended at all

 

[Skuh]

I don't think it could be put more simply. What Alex stated was as simple as it gets. If there was any simpler way of putting it, it would be as follows: To much power in the hands of too few people leads to greed and tyranny practically by default. It's simply human nature. There are truly evil people in this world who hold high positions. People who could care less about anyone lower than them and would do anything to gain more power by any means necessary. People like this do exist. Now, whether they are manipulating politics and slowly trying to forcefully, but quietly, insert a world government upon us is not known. But, as stated in the OP, we do seem to slowly be losing our freedoms.

Well actually he made it very clear he thought all people in power were like that, not some. As I said. I agree there are some like that. Turn on the news and you can see them every day.

I would disagree that power corrupts by default, the world wouldnt have gotten to where it has if this was tru imo.

I also agree that some of these people manipulate politics, and not just the bad ones. I believe even good politicians manipulate politics. We are also on the verge of losing some of our freedoms too. I would agree with that, though tis is VERY country specific thing.

I still see no reason to believe in a global conspiricy though or any evidence to the contrary. All I see are massive holes in the global conspiricy theory.
To my logical eye, that means the probabilty of it happening are incredibly low. So low in fact that it isn't worth worrying about.
I do think though that goverments use the fact that populations in general think that all conspiricy theorists are nut jobs and therfore all conspiricies are false to their advantage. This imo enables them to hide real stuff that they do, as they think no one will believe them.

 

[Sam48]

Well actually he made it very clear he thought all people in power were like that, not some.

Actually, I believe he said "most". You tend to take everyone's examples to the extreme and then accuse them of making extreme claims which you yourself just made up.

I would disagree that power corrupts by default, the world wouldnt have gotten to where it has if this was tru imo.

But that's not how we got here at all. The founding fathers created a system of government that doesn't give all the power to one or few individuals. It splits all the power among many individuals from all over the country all the way down to the local level, therefore avoiding one ultimate rule/ruler. That's how America, and Europe in their own fashion, got to were they are now. However, today, we now see this divide of power being terribly abused.

Also, for someone who I must assume is in their thirties, you could use proper grammar. In fact, the AUP states you must.

 

[Skuh]

Actually, I believe he said "most". You tend to take everyone's examples to the extreme and then accuse them of making extreme claims which you yourself just made up.


But that's not how we got here at all. The founding fathers created a system of government that doesn't give all the power to one or few individuals. It splits all the power among many individuals from all over the country all the way down to the local level, therefore avoiding one ultimate rule/ruler. That's how America, and Europe in their own fashion, got to were they are now. However, today, we now see this divide of power being terribly abused.

Also, for someone who I must assume is in their thirties, you could use proper grammar. In fact, the AUP states you must.

Just checked. You're right he did. Jees i'm having a bad day with this thread.
Again. Sorry.

Really, grammar. It's 3.30 am here so forgive me if my grammar isn't perfect. I really didn't think it was hard to understand though.

 

[Sam48]

Really, grammar. It's 3.30 am here so forgive me if my grammar isn't perfect. I really didn't think it was hard to understand though.

No, not terribly, but I know a good many people here who really don't appreciate it. Especially those who use abbreviations such as "imo", "idk", "etc"...etc. Yes, anyway, like I said, the AUP states so, not me.

 

[BobK]

The name alone from your video will make me NOT watch it. Your posts ALL show insecurety, immaturety, ignorance and arrogance. Have fun explaining your kids or grandkids why the world is what it is in the future.

So let me see if I got this straight. You want us to watch your video but you can't be bothered to watch somebody else's video?

That sounds a awful lot like "Don't confuse me with facts; my mind is made up".

 

[Alex p.]

So let me see if I got this straight. You want us to watch your video but you can't be bothered to watch somebody else's video?

That sounds a awful lot like "Don't confuse me with facts; my mind is made up".

Nice try at provocation. Practice some more son. I never tried to force you to watch it, did I? Also I gave reasons as to why I didn't want to watch his video. Again, nice try.

Also: *an awful lot*

 

[JacksHerer]

there are a couple of problems with this poll -
1 - the 'they' are not elite!! just because we are fed lies and divided by ignorance, it does not make them elite. They are probably mostly imbred.
2 - they already have control of Western Europe and the USA!!

 

[hogger129]

The problem here is that the UN wants us to abide by their laws & rules. That can only happen if our Congress ratifies the treaties. A lot of things the UN writes is dangerous to our rights. So keep electing people who will oppose the UN imposing their rules on the US. I do feel that we should leave the UN and their building should not be on US soil.

 

[BobK]

Nice try at provocation.

I wasn't trying to provoke anything, I was merely making an observation. One I still stand by. Paranoid much?

Practice some more son.

Oh the condescencion! Oh the ignorance!

I never tried to force you to watch it, did I?

No, of course you didn't. Nor did I ever claim you did. Why did you even mention it? Paranoid much?

Also I gave reasons as to why I didn't want to watch his video. Again, nice try.

At least Skuh took the time to actually watch the video you posted before posting his. You merely looked at the title of the one he posted and from that somehow decided not to extend the same courtesy to him.

Also: *an awful lot*

As long as we're picking at nits here:

insecurety... immaturety

Really, you should put your own house in order before pointing out things like this.

But as long as that quote has come up again: You did quite clearly state you had reasons for not watching it. One is an issue with the name of it, for some reason. The rest of the post was:

Your posts ALL show insecurety, immaturety, ignorance and arrogance. Have fun explaining your kids or grandkids why the world is what it is in the future.

Could you kindly point out the insecurity, immaturity, ignorance or arrogance in (for example) this post?

Its passable, you can do it. Stick with it, especially if you are new to the wheel.

When people ask me why I think GT4 was a better game than GT5, mission 34 is one of the first things i talk about.

Havent played GT4 in about 4 years but that mission is still etched on my memory.

You did, after all, emphasize the word "all". I'm struggling, but I can't find a trace of insecurity, immaturity, ignorance or arrogance in that. Maybe it's the "Have fun explaining your kids or grandkids why the world is what it is in the future" part? Because I can't find any sort of reason not to watch a video in that part either.