A Quantum Leap
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- GTP_Orido
Whatever your say boss
I like driving them all, racing them and I don't care if there's simulated racing events with qualifying or not, I consider GT as mainly a driving game, I spent 80% of my time in GT driving against time, driving for enjoyment, tuning them to my taste and cruising with mates. I raced offline just to get some money.
What's the basic requirement of racing : driver, car and a track, simple as.
- 8,722
Doesn't say that on mine. Sony USA: law unto themselves (as usual).
Mine says "Take it to the track". Perhaps discouraging street antics, or maybe hinting at GT Academy? Tenuous, I think; the only other option is that it's a stupid marketing slogan. I know, highly unlikely.
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- kudos00
What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?
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- HamiltonMP427
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What the box says is neither here nor there, but the point at hand is that GT has a different interpretation on what cars "matter" and which ones don't. The developer has every right to have his opinion just like you do. The only difference is that he has the power to implement that in his work. If you don't like it, go make your own franchise/find another game to your liking/whatever floats your boat. not many games are going to be tailor-made for you as an individual unless its your own work. If you have one of those then cheers to you.
I for one like the car list. Of course its Japanese-heavy (the guy's Asian, what are you gonna do?) But I agree that it has an encyclopedia effect in which I can learn about and drive cars that I would have otherwise never known existed. Famous "staples" are cool too, but they are staples, we know the deal already.
Just my opinion though.....oh yea, here's the link to the quote.
http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/00_3833505.html
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- HamiltonMP427
We've seen it before....also should I post the quote how he wishes to draw back from the over abundance of Japanese cars? So if he does draw them back will you turn away from what you've just said and praise him for going that route just to be in line with Kaz and PD? Also it does matter when you market yourself as a race game, drive in 24h events, have a academy who has the purpose of harvesting drivers that could potentially do real world racing, sponsor race cars, go to racing events like Festival of Speed, Goodwood. At what point does the "marketing" become reality and not so easily dismissed, and accepted as the reality of things?
Also no one is asking PD to make GT like SMS with PCars which is actually made to what the community wants it to be as far as physics and other features. It's quite an asinine thing to tell people to basically "shut up and deal with it", people have a right to be constructive.
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- GTP_Orido
Racing is part of driving, you need to drive to race, not the other way around, so driving comprises everything, racing, drifting, drag, rallying, time trialling, etc. I guess GT slogan fits the whole thing.
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- HamiltonMP427
Great way to spin, what exactly do you mean that you need to drive to race?
Anyways once again, since you didn't do anything to dismiss the fact that it's focus is more racing then just cruising around or driving around a track in second gear the entire time and taking in the scenery. When you drive you aren't out to race people (at least I hope you aren't) as you commute to work, where if you get their first a podium and trophy await you. To act as if they are one in the same is quite an awful attempt to not yield.
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And learn about and drive cars that in fact never did exist but are presented as such anyway! Everyone knows that the best encyclopedias just make things up to boost the page count.
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- McLOVIN5489
I take a concept as what it is, a concept of what a manufacturer/company would wish to achieve, if you are referring to those (you said "cars") but once again, just my opinion. If you take offense or don't like it, that's fine, there are plenty of other cars to enjoy that exist.Tornado
As for the instance if Kaz scaled down on Japanese cars, you're somewhat correct. I have no shame in saying that I accept the developers prerogative. As long as I get to drive & have fun (though I never made a statement to draw back from in that sense; I only acknowledged that its Japanese-heavy)👍 GT offers ME a driving experience just as diverse as its car list. Could individual classes be expanded on? Of course. I'd love to see it. But I'm learning plenty about unfamiliar aspects of the automotive world with what they offer now.
Once again (people seem to ignore this part) just my opinion.
Sidenote I'd love to see an in-depth "festival of speed" type atmosphere at Goodwood online (times, etc). That depends on how free the stage is as far as getting to and from the line is concerned. We shall see.
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- GTP_Orido
You need to gas, to brake and steer the car right ? That's driving, the person is called the driver - racing driver, rally driver, etc. You can't race other car if you don't drive the car. GT slogan is about driving simulator, it simulates driving a car, then they give more to expand, more car types, tracks, different driving discipline,etc.All of that are driving, when you apply gas and brake, steer the car, you are driving, whether against time, against another car to reach finish line, drifting sideways for enjoyment, rallying - off road, you are still driving, only we gave it distinctive name to set it apart from other different kind of driving activity.
When you give a racing driver a compliment after he won a race, you say : "That was awesome driving perfection"
When you passed a driving test, the tester says : "Good driving, you passed them all with flying colors."
When you won a drift competition : "Wow, You drove like the Drift King, precision and style."
When you won an autcross : "Splendid driving, your car control is above the rest of the competition"
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- HamiltonMP427
He was talking about fictional cars that weren't even concepts...and I think we're aware of your undying loyalty to PD
You do realize that racing extends beyond a car or even four or two wheels right? Running races don't have driving, swimming races don't have driving, skiing nope no driving their, horse racing -I mean unless you drive a Ferrari to work I guess that might fit.
The fact that you actually are trying to say this game is only driving and dismissing racing so you don't have to acknowledge the faults they have is sad. Once again it's been explained that it is a racing game, and yet you focus on it as if all racing is driving centered. Racing is an action of competition and trying to win said event, and in this case via racing cars or different back grounds. GT may slogan as "real driving simulator" but I'll take one from your book of BS, and say "it's just marketing you have to take it with a grain of salt (paraphrasing).
All of that are driving, when you apply gas and brake, steer the car, you are driving, whether against time, against another car to reach finish line, drifting sideways for enjoyment, rallying - off road, you are still driving, only we gave it distinctive name to set it apart from other different kind of driving activity.
Actually I've heard a multitude of things, "brilliant car control", "great hard racing", "splendid show", "intelligent pace and strategy" and the list goes one. For you to sum it to one phrase is absolutely naive and moronic a bit.
Drifting I usually hear, amazing car control more so than the phrase you made up. Autocross I hardly ever watch but at this point the pattern is highly bias and I feel close to trolling.
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That's a reach. I don't agree or like everything they do. But I'm not a contrarian who dubs everything they do as poo either. I take the same approach to T10, Ubisoft, EA, 2k, anyone who develops.
As for the x1, etc. I took a "drive it once, laugh a bit, & leave it alone" approach. Not a big deal.
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- HamiltonMP427
There a far more fictitious cars than the X1, also why would you ever give EA respect? That is beyond me.
No one thinks everything the do is junk, but they lack integrity at times with what they suggest they have done or given us, which is what people take issue with.
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LMSCorvetteGT2
It does not get more ficticious than the x1... It is by far the most ridiculous (the ONLY ridiculous one,come to think of it). Even the FGT is based on a real f1. Are you counting TCs and RMs as fictional too?
As far as EA, now you're just fishing for an argument.
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No I'm not, on this forum you'd be hard pressed to find an EA supporter. Especially since they hold exclusive rights to a car company many would like to see in the GT series.
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LMSCorvetteGT2
I support any company/developer who creates things I enjoy. I'm no fanboy. If I was famous, I'd do commercials for Coke AND Pepsi lol.
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- HamiltonMP427
Yeah well too bad EA don't care for their consumers in the same light you seem to for them. I don't have any products I enjoy from them and I wouldn't suggest anyone being a fanboy either, people are just not happy with EA's antics there is a reason it's been called worst company in America multiple years.
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LMSCorvetteGT2
Duly noted 👍
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- HamiltonMP427
Everything you see in GT3 probably
Alpina, Ferrari, McLaren (not gonna happen SRW is why), and Porsche (EA is why that wont happen), Aston Martin, Lamborghini, The upcoming Viper GT3, Camaro GT3, Ford GT GT3
I think that is what he means
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So, in actuality, we can't have the complete field at all, no matter how much we "pay up"? But the moment extra GT3 cars become available via DLC, this is exactly what PD are attempting to do! Of course, neglecting to add any more after release would be a slap in the face. Not sure what they should do, it's not like this is the FIA GT3 game, or anything.
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- kudos00
Blasphemy!
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Put as many GT3 cars that you like/can, PD. But don't forget my beloved LMPs, please.
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