A-spec Expert Level Race Car Challenge: Circuit de la Sarthe 2009
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- torm1
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- chrisspeed281
I would say the Pescarolo C60 Hypride '05 is the best choice. With the @praiano63 Tune you can't be wrong
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- hav07kajak
I wonder if it has become easier to win during the day. I am not even an average driver, I am a slow driver. I took my 2J out since apparently that should give the most easy win, and I won in my first attempt. Next i took my Audi R8 (my favorite LMP1) out for a spin and again I won in my first attempt. I don't use any special tunes. Just ensure I am on pp700 and the top speed on 380 kph.
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Not sure a seasonal even has ever frustrated me as much as this one. In addition to Sauber C9 turning left or right on the brakes with no steering input the penalties were completely stupid and the AI blatantly cheats. I've seen them cut chicanes and gain several seconds multiple times and when they're behind you they just try and ram you off the track at every corner. I was punted off 3 times in a row by the 3rd place Jag. Also managed to get a penalty for cutting by driving over a curb, but running wide at the same corner and gaining half as second was fine, got another penalty for 'ramming' when I never actually hit the AI, or if I did it was so gentle it didn't even make a sound. It's not actually difficult to be fast enough to win it, but there's so much working against you.
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- KAYTEAM73
Yeah, this one took a while for sure. I used the Sauber C9. I needed 2 perfect laps sub 3.20mins to be any where near.
Got it eventually after playing with the aero - took 50 off max front and back and tweaked tranny to max out at 240mph.
About to use this event to run and tune the Bentley. The payout is pretty good too.
Got it eventually after playing with the aero - took 50 off max front and back and tweaked tranny to max out at 240mph.
About to use this event to run and tune the Bentley. The payout is pretty good too.
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- BionicDerp
Got 3rd in the Deltawing '13 after a few tries. Switched to a FAP and barely won after a few more tries. Didn't really tune them.
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- GTP_LittlePaul
Took me several attempts, but won by 2.5 seconds using a stock R8 Race Car '01. Overtook the Minolta in 1st position very close to the end, needed a perfect run. All assists off except ABS on 1. Very fun event, just wished all the career races were like this one 
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- Elmer_Fudd_63
In an earlier post I said this was pretty easy to win. And, on my second attempt I did win easily. Started reading about people finding it difficult to win this, so I went back and had another go. Nothing but complete frustration now. I will start a survey of fastest losing times in this event. I will start the ball rolling with:
6.46 and didn't even see the second place car. Perfect driving, no penalties, and at least 15 seconds behind what I golded with, go figure????????????????????
6.46 and didn't even see the second place car. Perfect driving, no penalties, and at least 15 seconds behind what I golded with, go figure????????????????????
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- GTP_iainoflo
Yep - I've noticed that I couldn't win with 3:22s but I could win with 3:25 and 3:26. Same lineup and same car as well.
JogoAsobi
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Looking at some of the comments about differing times I am wondering...
...if the AI behavior is affected by car, tuning, tires, & if driving assists used.
Run it multiple times now in different 700PP cars (900ºW/RH/0 ABS/no assists)...
...as long as I keep in sub-3:23 range, its cake walk. I'll try stock this weekend.
My GT6's CR bank is very happy about this.
...if the AI behavior is affected by car, tuning, tires, & if driving assists used.
Run it multiple times now in different 700PP cars (900ºW/RH/0 ABS/no assists)...
...as long as I keep in sub-3:23 range, its cake walk. I'll try stock this weekend.
My GT6's CR bank is very happy about this.
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- ReTyger
Have managed third and within 8 seconds or so of the leader with my stock 787B, max speed up two clicks, which is currently the only car I have that would stand a chance. Though I've not yet pieced together two perfect (by my own standards) laps I don't think it quite has the legs, but I also don't really like swapping out parts of my cars, preferring to keep them stock. Think I'll save for the Pescarolo Hybride (I'm on about 1 million now having recently bought the 7.5MM Ferrari) then grind enough to make the money back. Anyone won with the Pescarolo as stock or adjusted stock parts?
One thing I will say, and I mean no disrespect here, is that a lot of folks are complaining about the behaviour of the AI and penalties, and did for the previous Spa challenge, yet I've had relatively few such issues. Perhaps I've just been lucky but for the most part you can avoid any problems if you drive smoothly and don't try any dicey overtakes. To me this is more realistic than the "old" AI and I enjoy these seasonals more than most of the A-Spec races that came with the game.
Oh yeah my settings are DS3, TCS at 1 (small concession I make for some race cars that probably utilise it to varying extents in real life), ABS 1 and everything else off.
One thing I will say, and I mean no disrespect here, is that a lot of folks are complaining about the behaviour of the AI and penalties, and did for the previous Spa challenge, yet I've had relatively few such issues. Perhaps I've just been lucky but for the most part you can avoid any problems if you drive smoothly and don't try any dicey overtakes. To me this is more realistic than the "old" AI and I enjoy these seasonals more than most of the A-Spec races that came with the game.
Oh yeah my settings are DS3, TCS at 1 (small concession I make for some race cars that probably utilise it to varying extents in real life), ABS 1 and everything else off.
JogoAsobi
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I think part of it may be that not all visitors to these threads have completed career events...
...or they may have done them with cars that had greater advantage over AI because of more lax requirements.
No criticism is intended, everyone has different expectations for game as well as amount of time they can devote to it.
Tip: best recipe for getting pit-manuevered or rear-ended is to pass fast cars prior to corner entry.
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- Biebs74
I tried this one 4 times in a row with the C60 using Praiano's tune, managed 3rd once and 4th three times. I noticed that I was actually closer to the leaders at the end the worse I drove though. My best overall time was one of my 4th place finishes, and I was 6 seconds behind 1st, my worst time (I spun off, twice) and finished 3rd, 2 seconds behind 1st. Reading a couple prior posts it would seem you're better off driving bad, lol.
I reloaded the event and on the first try with the same car, the Minolta was the lead car (no Sauber or C60) and I won by 6 seconds with a decent time (6:46ish I think). If I can get a reload and get a list without what appear to be the 3 fast cars in a few attempts, then I will grind this for awhile, otherwise I'll go do the other two new ones.
I reloaded the event and on the first try with the same car, the Minolta was the lead car (no Sauber or C60) and I won by 6 seconds with a decent time (6:46ish I think). If I can get a reload and get a list without what appear to be the 3 fast cars in a few attempts, then I will grind this for awhile, otherwise I'll go do the other two new ones.
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- WhoosierGirl
Is this the kind information your looking for JogoAsobi?
'06 Corvette LM Z06
No Assists other than ABS 1
Total time 7:31.833, 3:27.031 first lap and 3:28.977 second lap (very questionable 3 second penalty
)Minolta and Sauber ran 3:44.xxx first laps.
Second place Minolta ran a 3:49.xxx second lap.
Very fun doing an all out sprint race, sorry Mr./Ms. AI no time to chit chat gotta go!
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Looking at some of the comments about differing times I am wondering...
...if the AI behavior is affected by car, tuning, tires, & if driving assists used.
Run it multiple times now in different 700PP cars (900ºW/RH/0 ABS/no assists)...
...as long as I keep in sub-3:23 range, its cake walk. I'll try stock this weekend.
My GT6's CR bank is very happy about this.
This is exactly what I was thinking. The faster and better I drive , the more uncatchable the AI seem to become. Drive reasonably poorly and they seem to take pity on you. Mind you, I have only had the sauber as my rabbit. Might be different with the Minolta as your lead car.
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- Takaya15
The person who designed this challenge should be fired, come on it's way too difficult, I have been trying for two hours, the most I have got is fourth place, I can do better if I push hard, but I am not sure if I'll be able to get gold, I'm just turned off by lack of consistency by the people who set up these seasonals and time trials, sometimes they are easy, medium, and sometimes crazy hard like this one and the Lexus at Nordscleife .
I know they are for expert, but please PD if you are listening give some break to a rockie players and make them a little bit affordable.
I know they are for expert, but please PD if you are listening give some break to a rockie players and make them a little bit affordable.
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- Takaya15
I went back again to the challenge for a last try before I go to sleep, using the same car ,Toyota Minolta 88C V '89 - tuned by @praiano63 - since I'm using automatic, I tried to keep the gears up by drifting around and take advantage of the weight shift to slide around, so it worked, I was able to catch up with the tho first two rabbits even before the last curves, they crashed by themselves to the wall, I couldn't believe I was getting the Gold and the paint chip.
I advise the players who are struggling with this event not to give up, it's doable if you are an intermediate player like me, get a nice car that match you taste and skills with a good tune, and keep trying, it will get funny at the end by seeing the three other cars crash or go out of the field, good luck and enjoy, it would be more fun if I can grind at this event the next two weeks.
My best lap record was 3:28 at second lap even with one penalty, I think the transmission set play an important factor, my max speed limit was set up at 224 mph, it did give an advantage in the straights.
Thanks to the Thread OP and @praiano63 for the tunes
I advise the players who are struggling with this event not to give up, it's doable if you are an intermediate player like me, get a nice car that match you taste and skills with a good tune, and keep trying, it will get funny at the end by seeing the three other cars crash or go out of the field, good luck and enjoy, it would be more fun if I can grind at this event the next two weeks.
My best lap record was 3:28 at second lap even with one penalty, I think the transmission set play an important factor, my max speed limit was set up at 224 mph, it did give an advantage in the straights.
Thanks to the Thread OP and @praiano63 for the tunes
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- torm1
For the last race, at Mt Panorama, I didn't have to perform a late overtake to be rammed off of the corner. All I had to do was be in front of the leading AI. Often, it didn't matter whether I had been in front for two or three laps. It could come out of no-where (with the replay revealing that the AI braked for the braking zone--then accelerated wildly--before braking again an instant before crashing into the back of me ... or missing me and flying over the corner).
I finished/golded everything in GT5 and GT6, all of the GT6 seasonals, and all of the GT5 seasonals that I had the game for. Even if I hadn't though, I'd still notice the ramming (or attempted ramming) mentioned above. The difference is not the quality of driver. The difference is known: the change in AI behaviour that has been programmed by PD.
Personally, I think I still prefer this to the old AI behaviour, but I'm going to discuss the ongoing issues and hope that more improvement comes along anyway.
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Had a similar experience with Minolta. First I installed low RPM turbo and limited power to get 700pp, all else stock. Took it for a spin and tried to get a feel on how the car handles. Made a few silly errors and came in 4th, 7 seconds behind the rabbit, which was also a Minolta.
On my second try I didn't change the setup, only pushed a bit harder. Drove two laps of 3:25 and came in 2nd right after the rabbit-Minolta, think the difference was 2 seconds.
Then I decided to have a go with tuning as it came apparent that driving stock was going to be too close for my skills. Applied the same tune by @praiano63 and had a go, same line up, nothing else changed. Managed 3:24 and 3:26 lap times, but ended up passing the rabbit at the last straight before the chicanes. I like the fact that the AI is less consistent at the moment, it seems to make the races more interesting.
Quite happy with that, golded in three attempts with no penalties and no misbehaving AI. Everyone seemed to stay on track and avoid close contact. Back to Red Bull grinding it is..
MarcusQ
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Golded all the new seasonals last night. Gold on 1 try for beginner level, Gold on 1 try for intermediate and gold the Expert Level after about 100-ish try 
... but golded it when i used the Sauber C9 and just gave the 2 lead cars (R92CP and Pescarolo) some pressure until one on them overshoots and hits the sand trap, and won.
... but golded it when i used the Sauber C9 and just gave the 2 lead cars (R92CP and Pescarolo) some pressure until one on them overshoots and hits the sand trap, and won. Used the Pescarolo and won the second time (first time I had two 3 second penalties from collisions). I didn't use any specific tune, as it wasn't necessary. I overtook the lead Pescarolo easily enough during the second run, and I would have easily won the first run (Sauber was the rabbit) if I hadn't of received the penalties (my fault, I was a bit too aggressive).
Second run was a perfect run, sizzling down the track! Overtaking two cars side-by-side (at over 300+ kph), just barely squeezing by, avoiding a collision or boundary penalty by only inches...delicious!
I am a bit puzzled about the difficulty others are having. Perhaps I just got lucky?
Second run was a perfect run, sizzling down the track! Overtaking two cars side-by-side (at over 300+ kph), just barely squeezing by, avoiding a collision or boundary penalty by only inches...delicious!
I am a bit puzzled about the difficulty others are having. Perhaps I just got lucky?
MarcusQ
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It was a little bit hard for me.. I was running the sauber at max 370 kph overtaking everything but always ends up 2nd place. (constant 2nd place bumps my Cr. by about 2M) I was just able to gold it when I set the track display to full and noticed that one of the 2 lead cars overshoots (i was 3rd pos that time, so I just ran down the R92CP and got gold) like iainoflo, i did not win at 3:21 but won at 3:26s..
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