A-spec Intermediate Level Muscle Car Battle: Trial Mountain

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BMWcrazy
I prefer the Boss 302 over the GT500.

But if I had to buy one in real life, I'd still go with the GT500. :lol:
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Oh, I totally prefer the Boss 302, both in this game and in real life. I'm actually more of a Chevy guy, but as far as the Mustangs go, that particular Boss 302 is totally sweet! To me, the GT500 is just too big and heavy to enjoy in GT6. I'm not a big fan of just throwing Weight Reduction Stage 3 on everything. I actually prefer to drive Replica tunes, if one is available for a particular car that I'm interested in driving. Now, in real life I can't actually speak about the GT500 as I've never had the pleasure of driving one. :eek:
 
ALB123
Oh, I totally prefer the Boss 302, both in this game and in real life. I'm actually more of a Chevy guy, but as far as the Mustangs go, that particular Boss 302 is totally sweet! To me, the GT500 is just too big and heavy to enjoy in GT6. I'm not a big fan of just throwing Weight Reduction Stage 3 on everything. I actually prefer to drive Replica tunes, if one is available for a particular car that I'm interested in driving. Now, in real life I can't actually speak about the GT500 as I've never had the pleasure of driving one. :eek:
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I think I drove the GT500 in last week's beginner seasonal @ Suzuka East and I really can't remember it was a bad ride, like I said I think I really enjoyed it. But that was in bone stock form though, maybe even detuned slightly to get to the 450 pp limit for the event.

Just checked, it's the 454 pp Shelby GT350 '65 premium car, indeed bone stock only power limited a little to get to 450 pp. It was a fun ride at that seasonal compared to other 400-450 pp cars, the car felt really powerful. Could be the track or the pp environment though.
 
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breyzipp
I think I drove the GT500 in last week's beginner seasonal @ Suzuka East and I really can't remember it was a bad ride, like I said I think I really enjoyed it. But that was in bone stock form though, maybe even detuned slightly to get to the 450 pp limit for the event.

Just checked, it's the 454 pp Shelby GT350 '65 premium car, indeed bone stock only power limited a little to get to 450 pp. It was a fun ride at that seasonal compared to other 400-450 pp cars, the car felt really powerful. Could be the track or the pp environment though.
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I was gonna say, I don't think you're thinking of the right car. De-tuning the Shelby GT500 to 450PP would be a HUGE drop from its stock PP level. I just finished running a couple of laps around La Sierra with the GT500 at stock weight/power. The suspension was customized for better road handling, but I did my first 2 laps with CS tires and this Mustang was not very happy. :lol: He kept trying to make those tires bald and he would have succeeded if I wasn't in Arcade Mode. :D
 
The Shelby GT500 in bare stock form without oil change is 454 pp so dropping to 450 pp is not "HUGE", it's a tiny bit. And I think it shouldn't influence the behaviour that much since the power limiter would probably be around 99% or something. I'm not sure but I think it comes with SH tires as well or not? Are we maybe talking about different cars? The one I mean is the premium one.

I thought I even commented somewhere in the forum about how good it drove but I can't find the post anymore.

Edit - seems I was totally wrong, the Shelby I ment is the Shelby GT350 '65 (premium). The one you guys mean is probably the Ford Shelby GT500 '13 (premium).

I think I need some sleep. :indiff:
 
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This is a pretty fun race. '05 Ford GT, camber at 0, changed the top speed a bit, did all the weight-loss stuff, lowered the PP, TC at 1. Super fun.

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@breyzipp Yeah, you were thinking of the 350, not the 500. Also, the Shelby you were thinking of is purchased through the Shelby dealership while the GT500 is a Shelby that is purchased from the North American Ford Dealership. I don't know if you have the 15th Anniversary Edition of GT6. If you do, then you already have a free 2013 Ford Shelby GT500. If not, you can pick one up for only 55,000 credits. A bargain if you enjoy Mustangs and it is a premium, of course, as all cars chosen for the 15th Anniversary Edition bonus cars are premiums.

Trust me, this car is nothing like the GT350 that you were talking about. It comes stock at 558PP (565PP if you change the oil). As you can see, that's why I originally said it would be quite a drop to lower the car from 558pp to 450pp. If you do get the GT500, let me know what you think about it. 👍
 
ALB123
@breyzipp Yeah, you were thinking of the 350, not the 500. Also, the Shelby you were thinking of is purchased through the Shelby dealership while the GT500 is a Shelby that is purchased from the North American Ford Dealership. I don't know if you have the 15th Anniversary Edition of GT6. If you do, then you already have a free 2013 Ford Shelby GT500. If not, you can pick one up for only 55,000 credits. A bargain if you enjoy Mustangs and it is a premium, of course, as all cars chosen for the 15th Anniversary Edition bonus cars are premiums.

Trust me, this car is nothing like the GT350 that you were talking about. It comes stock at 558PP (565PP if you change the oil). As you can see, that's why I originally said it would be quite a drop to lower the car from 558pp to 450pp. If you do get the GT500, let me know what you think about it. 👍
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I have the standard edition but with preorder pack, torque pack and 1 mill credits, so I only got 10 anniv' cars and the GT500 isn't one of them. I haven't tried the GT500 yet but the current seasonal seems to be a good reason to buy one and give it a try. I only used that Corvette Z06 (C6) '06 and it was a fun ride (given my very limited experience with Corvette's in general).

I'm currently farming SSRX like mad with the 15th anniv' Huayra in B-spec so credits come flying in by the millions. I'm also buying all premium cars in the game assorted from oldest to newest. And I'm now almost done with 2011 so when I'm in 2013 I'll get the GT500 ( probably in 1 or 2 days or something :P).
 
I really like this track and muscle car combo. I wish that PD had made the AI faster and used this event for the expert race in this set of seasonal events.
 
redsuns23
you can actually win in a Tesla Model S too, apparently. Classic example of a muscle car, ain't it?
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I did just that. Opened the garage for eligible cars (oddly I WAS using an eligible one - the classic Challenger - but didn't want to change setup as I was using that for the Matterhorne drift event) and saw that the Tesla showed up as eligible.

I guess the two top AIs were typical American rednecks and didn't like being showed up by an eco-friendly car though - as soon as I passed them they stuck behind me like glue. I barely won by 0.080, but hey, worth it.
 
DisabledRacer
I'm not sure whether this video is kinda funny, or insulting, after watching a tire-smoking, Ford Ka pass Corvettes, Ford GTs and Vipers?

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I bought this "Ford Ka" yesterday, sup'd it up and raced against Ford GT, Viper and Corvettes on the lead. She was too fast that those lead muscle cars didn't had a chance.. watching the replay, I see the Ka smoking left and right on every turn and every exits.. that is when i realized I forgot to install LSDs!. ahaha!. really awesone drive!
 
Did it with stock C7'14...533pp oil changed SH tyre....1st lap 1'40 and then 1'38, 1'38, 1'37, 1'36 for the 1st trial...fun but AIs were really slow.....
 
 
SergioTurbo
I did just that. Opened the garage for eligible cars (oddly I WAS using an eligible one - the classic Challenger - but didn't want to change setup as I was using that for the Matterhorne drift event) and saw that the Tesla showed up as eligible.

I guess the two top AIs were typical American rednecks and didn't like being showed up by an eco-friendly car though - as soon as I passed them they stuck behind me like glue. I barely won by 0.080, but hey, worth it.
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it's actually a damn good and fast car...
 
@danbojte : I raced this gem 4 times in a row, and won them all :P Exact specs, no aids ( no brake assist 7/7 BB ) Comfort Soft tires, 500PP, 1:40s best lap, and 8:57s total time. Very fun to drive and race against the Viper and Ford GT. I don't know what is on the PD staff mind, but Acura NSX is no US Muscle :lol: Also spotted Fisker Karma, a battery muscle :lol:

The first 3 laps is quite easy to catch the 3rd car, 2nd and 1st car usually overtaken on 4th or 5th lap :) Sometimes the Viper ACR or Ford GT is the leader, depend on how aggressive they are racing each other. When I lead, they are on MAD BOB mode, dive bombing, ramming from the side or zooming in like on a rocket :D

Ridox2JZGTE
ACURA NSX '91 Replica ( Real World Setup 500PP version )
Ayrton Senna Tribute
Special Build with Real World Alignment ACURA NSX '91 500PP ver.
Comfort Soft to Sports Medium​




CAR : ACURA NSX '91
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Medium

Specs
Horsepower: 406 HP at 8000 RPM
Torque: 284.6 ft-lb at 6500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 98.4%
Weight: 1225 kg
Ballast : 103 kg
Ballast Position : 50
Weight Distribution : 42 / 58 as in real life
Performance Points: 500

GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Aero Kits Type A
Wheels : +1 Inch Up BBS RE-MG in Grey / Dark Silver
Car Paint : Silverstone Metallic

Tuning Parts Installed :
Engine Tuning Stage 3
Sports Computer
Racing Exhaust
Catalytic Converter Sports
Intake Tuning
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction



Suspension - KW Variant 3 with ClubSport Springs / Lowered and Street Damper Setup
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 85 80 or 95 90 or 95 95
Spring Rate: 8.00 8.00
Dampers (Compression): 4 6
Dampers (Extension): 5 5
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 2
Camber Angle: 0.3 1.0 ( front camber range 0.3+-0.5, rear camber range 1.5+-0.5 )
Toe Angle: -0.29 0.47 ( front toe out 3.5mm+-1mm, rear toe in 6mm+-1mm )


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - COMPTECH Complete Close Ratio Gear Set with 4.55 Final
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Auto Max Speed to 290kmh / 180mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.071
2nd 1.960
3rd 1.430
4th 1.120
5th 0.910
Final Gear : 4.550 ( Optional 4.44 OS Giken Final, NSX-R 4.235 Final for more top speed )


LSD - Torque Control Differential with factory preload
Initial Torque : 30
Acceleration Sensitivity: 30
Braking Sensitivity: 15





Brake Balance:
7/7 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 7/9, for ABS 1 7/9 or feel free to use your preferred brake balance.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/9 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :
I made this special replica to commemorate Ayrton Senna :)
This time, the car is ACURA NSX '91, the 1st generation ACURA :) This build is 500PP version, suitable for racing or just cruising :P

The car setup is not your typical GT6 tune, I used real world setup alignment, similar to some of my older replica like ADVOX Supra :)

Suspension uses KW V3 ClubSport Coilover Kit as the stock real life value can't be replicated in GT6, ride height can be lowered 20 to 50mm on the front and 25mm to 55mm at the rear. Damper has been tuned for street and track. The ARB, Toe and Camber are all based on real life setup of a stock Honda/Acura NSX.

Most people do not know that later generation NSX has lower spring rate at the rear to give more grip and less oversteer. Most coilover kits uses the same arrangement, while KW V3 uses same spring rate. Obviously the real world spring rate works great in GT6.

Real life specs : front camber range 0.3+-0.5, rear camber range 1.5+-0.5; and front toe out 3.5mm+-1mm, rear toe in 6mm+-1mm.

Toe and camber has been slightly tweaked for this 500PP version, still within range of real world alignment values :)

The LSD has been updated using real world setup, Honda Torque Control Differential has high preload.

The weight distribution on the NSX is wrong in GT6, real life NSX has 42/58, so to achieve that, I used some ballast and weight reduction.

Gearing has also been updated for better performance on the track, adapting 6 speed COMPTECH Close Ratio Gear Set based on NSX-R 6 speed, I used only the 5 gears, and COMPTECH 4.55 Final also implemented for better acceleration. OS Giken Final 4.44 and NSX-R 4.235 Final are optional, use them when more top speed is needed.

To drive the NSX, you will need some real world driving approach, steer like you would in a real car, brake and gas like you would in your own car on the road :P

I tuned and tested the car at Ascari, Bathurst, Spa, Laguna Seca, Streets of Willow and Tsukuba.

The car is a joy to drive, feels like what a real track built NSX would drive :) It made GT6 ACURA NSX more sim like, well almost like on PC, not so easy to throw around :lol:

ENJOY :cheers:


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The camera has no auto focus, old dinky camera phone :grumpy: Notice the gap between the front pack ( 3 cars ) and the rest of the field. Those 2 Bob ( C. Santoro and A. Reilly ) are quick and deadly once I got close to them :lol:
 
So far I have won with the C7 prototype, Mustang Boss and I came in second by .005 seconds in Mach 1 by spinning out across the finish line
 
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Ridox2JZGTE
@danbojte : I raced this gem 4 times in a row, and won them all :P Exact specs, no aids ( no brake assist 7/7 BB ) Comfort Soft tires, 500PP, 1:40s best lap, and 8:57s total time. Very fun to drive and race against the Viper and Ford GT. I don't know what is on the PD staff mind, but Acura NSX is no US Muscle :lol: Also spotted Fisker Karma, a battery muscle :lol:

The first 3 laps is quite easy to catch the 3rd car, 2nd and 1st car usually overtaken on 4th or 5th lap :) Sometimes the Viper ACR or Ford GT is the leader, depend on how aggressive they are racing each other. When I lead, they are on MAD BOB mode, dive bombing, ramming from the side or zooming in like on a rocket :D



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The camera has no auto focus, old dinky camera phone :grumpy: Notice the gap between the front pack ( 3 cars ) and the rest of the field. Those 2 Bob ( C. Santoro and A. Reilly ) are quick and deadly once I got close to them :lol:
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Wow very nice pictures of the NSX! Side-question, how do you take "action" screenshots from a replay race? When the wheels of the car are spinning and the background gets blurry. I tried doing that but when I take a screenshot from a replay the wheels aren't in motion even though my car is in a race.
 
breyzipp
Wow very nice pictures of the NSX! Side-question, how do you take "action" screenshots from a replay race? When the wheels of the car are spinning and the background gets blurry. I tried doing that but when I take a screenshot from a replay the wheels aren't in motion even though my car is in a race.
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To get the sense of speed in the picture, simply alter the shutter speed to 1/60 or 1/125 ( low ), the higher, the quicker the camera shutter takes the shot and cause the car to look static even when at high speed. To get blurry background ( non focus part ), first set camera panning to mode 3 and alter the F-Stop to adjust the depth of field ( higher will make the sharp view area wider, lower will narrow the sharp focus area to the selected part of the image )

Focal Length
Change the size of the area that is photographed. Moving the slider to the left widens the angle, meaning that a larger area is photographed. Moving the slider to the right means a smaller area is photographed at greater magnification.
Adjusting the focal length doesn't just affect the size of the area that is photographed. When you are focused on one point, there is an area around that point that also appears to be in focus. "Depth of field" refers to the size of this area, where everything appears in focus. With a wider angle, depth of field is increased (meaning the area that appears in focus is larger). With a narrower angle, depth of field is reduced (meaning the area that appears in focus is smaller). By placing the camera farther away from the subject and using a narrower angle, you can make the subject stand out more.

F-stop
Depth of field is not only affected by focal length - changing the F-stop also affects it. Moving the slider to the left decreases depth of field, whereas moving it to the right increases it. Adjusting the F-stop in this manner does not affect the brightness of the screen. Because this setting allows you to change the depth of field without moving the camera, it's easy to produce the effect of switching between narrow and wide angles.

Shutter Speed
Set the speed at which the shutter opens and closes. Moving the slider to the right increases the shutter speed, allowing you to take sharp photos of moving objects. On the other hand, moving the slider to the left decreases the shutter speed, allowing you to create impressive images with blurry backgrounds. Adjusting shutter speed in this manner does not affect the brightness of the screen.

Panning (Race Photos Only)
Panning is a photography technique which involves moving the camera in accordance with a moving subject. With a slower shutter, the background will look blurry, emphasizing the feeling of speed.
From this menu, you can set the kind of panning effect you'd like. The following three modes are available:
Mode 1: Pan by swinging and tilting the camera around from a fixed point. The distance between the camera and the car will change slightly, with the effect of slightly obscuring the car in the image.
Mode 2: Pan by moving the camera around, following the car. When photographing a car that's turning, the focus will be on the central part of the car, obscuring its front and rear extremities.
Mode 3: Pan by moving the camera around, following the car, and also tilting and swinging the camera so that it always faces the car directly (left image, right). Only the background will be blurred, and the car itself will look sharp in the image.
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Source : http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt6/manual/#!/photo/menu


I used high shutter speed 1/8000 ( max ), I think, F-Stop 4.0 or 5.6, panning mode 3, on this shot :

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