A-spec Intermediate Level Racing Car Challenge: Circuito de Madrid

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I wish they wouldn't call this an 'A-spec race' when it's clearly a 3 lap timed section with obstacles parked on every apex.
Anyway, took a detuned is350 gt308 and managed to squeeze to first after about 10 tries. I'm taking my paint chip and never returning, thank you very much.
 
I won in 4rd try with stock Spoon S2000 race car. Nice challenge there as in the end you go against Audi S1 & Delta S4 in lower powered but greater grip. David vs Goliaths kind of...


I used the very same car, on SS. Same car that's being used in this weeks WRS TT event. I am not participating in the event, but I went ahead and created a tune anyways for others to use. Here is the tune if anyone is interested.


https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gtp_wrs-week-54-spooning-ascari.323073/page-3#post-10414917

Again, I did this event using SS as per the tune. I tried RH but did not like the way the car handled so you may want to change some things on the tune if you use RH.
 
This is way too easy :lol:, won on 1st try with Lexus IS350 GT300 replica, relaxed pace driving :) Finish in less than 5 minutes, got into 2nd on 2nd lap, some good ol' touring car contact racing :lol: Most of the AI used rally cars, bad in corners.
 
This is way too easy :lol:, won on 1st try with Lexus IS350 GT300 replica, relaxed pace driving :) Finish in less than 5 minutes, got into 2nd on 2nd lap, some good ol' touring car contact racing :lol: Most of the AI used rally cars, bad in corners.


Hi, Orido! Having fun, I see. :lol: You mentioned that the AI was bad in corners - I have a question for you - did you have SRF turned on or off?

I wish they wouldn't call this an 'A-spec race' when it's clearly a 3 lap timed section with obstacles parked on every apex.

Not picking on you, Dragonbeard - just looking for info, and since you mentioned it - can you please point me to where PD stated these were 'A-Spec' events? Not got to my console yet, and not sure from where where that info came.
Like you, I don't see them as 'A-spec' events, either (though some might stretch a point and call them 'A-Spec-type' events - because rabbits are involved - as opposed to TTs (no traffic) the latter even mistaken by some to be 'B-Spec' events because of such misdirection), and want to make sure PD has given this term to these events.
 
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Hi, Orido! Having fun, I see. :lol: You mentioned that the AI was bad in corners - I have a question for you - did you have SRF turned on or off?



Not picking on you, Dragonbeard - just looking for info, and since you mentioned it - can you please point me to where PD stated these were 'A-Spec' events? Not got to my console yet, and not sure from where where that info came.
Like you, I don't see them as 'A-spec' events, either (though some might stretch a point and call them 'A-Spec-type' events - because rabbits are involved - as opposed to TTs (no traffic) the latter even mistaken by some to be 'B-Spec' events because of such misdirection), and want to make sure PD has given this term to these events.

Of course not :lol: no assists :P The AI line up were mixed, Art Morrison Vette was right in front of me at the start, then Calibra Touring, Alfa 155 Ti, then some rally cars ( Group B cars too ), Camaro Z28 Race Car '69, Elise Race Car, Pozzi Camaro then the leader was Quattro S1, which is freaking fast only in straight.

On my 1st run, I just do late braking and coast on the corners then aim for clean exit, most of them can be passed in the middle of the corners - 1st hairpin, the big round curve ( both of them ) , the short straight leading to 2nd big curve and the last chicane. I got into 2nd at the end of 2nd lap before finish line, I think the 2nd car ( 205 Turbo Evo ) was caught in the chicane :lol:

Aim for less than 1:30s lap, and less than 5 minutes total time, easy 1st. I did 4:48 if not mistaken on my 1st run. A good 1st sector ( after 1st hairpin ) will be 23s.

I used Lexus IS350 GT300 Base Model with 1200kg weight and 313HP. Just simple suspension and LSD + aero replica tune which was built to replicate 2009 season.
 
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Hi, Orido! Having fun, I see. :lol: You mentioned that the AI was bad in corners - I have a question for you - did you have SRF turned on or off?



Not picking on you, Dragonbeard - just looking for info, and since you mentioned it - can you please point me to where PD stated these were 'A-Spec' events? Not got to my console yet, and not sure from where where that info came.
Like you, I don't see them as 'A-spec' events, either (though some might stretch a point and call them 'A-Spec-type' events - because rabbits are involved - as opposed to TTs (no traffic) the latter even mistaken by some to be 'B-Spec' events because of such misdirection), and want to make sure PD has given this term to these events.


It says so right on the little picture tab....always has been there.

EDIT: Didn't see @coryclifford 's post, but anyhow, it's there and clearly indicates that these races are considered to be A-spec events by PD. The way I have always understood things as described by PD is A-spec is where you are doing the racing and B-spec is where you are not doing the racing, but instructing/pushing an AI driver to do the racing. Seasonal TT's are just that, time trials and have never been considered A-spec or B-spec.
 
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Hi, Orido! Having fun, I see. :lol: You mentioned that the AI was bad in corners - I have a question for you - did you have SRF turned on or off?



Not picking on you, Dragonbeard - just looking for info, and since you mentioned it - can you please point me to where PD stated these were 'A-Spec' events? Not got to my console yet, and not sure from where where that info came.
Like you, I don't see them as 'A-spec' events, either (though some might stretch a point and call them 'A-Spec-type' events - because rabbits are involved - as opposed to TTs (no traffic) the latter even mistaken by some to be 'B-Spec' events because of such misdirection), and want to make sure PD has given this term to these events.
These seasonals resemble the GT5 A-Spec seasonals, so they have been refered to as such here.

I doubt anybody considers the TT's to be "B-Spec," as they bear no resemblance to B-Spec seasonals of the past--and B-Spec is conspicuously absent from the game.

That notwithstanding, I mistakenly used the term B-Spec while hurriedly and drunkenly typing on my iPhone amidst distractions. You'll never let that die, will you? You ought to.
 
Took the toyota altezza touringcar.
Messed up 2 races until i set the max speed from 270kmh to 250kmh.
Bigger challenge then the expert (again).
Added turbo 3, added weight untill i got a 50:50 weightdistribution and did a powerlimit to get 500pp.
Stock suspension.
I did use the race hard tires. My first race in gt6 with the altezza, i used that car a lot in GT5.
 
The 'Renault Sport Clio V6 Trophy 24V '00' did the job on first go for me against the Delta S4 and GT-R N24, even with a few bumps into barriers slowing me down. :)

Might give that a go myself. none of my Touring or rally cars will get the job done.
 
Just used the "Renault Megane Trophy V6" slight tune to the suspension and won by 0.9XX and I'm happy. Didn't think id get that one done. Now for the Pro race
 
Of course not :lol: no assists :P

Aim for less than 1:30s lap, and less than 5 minutes total time, easy 1st. I did 4:48 if not mistaken on my 1st run. A good 1st sector ( after 1st hairpin ) will be 23s.
.

Thank you. 👍

It says so right on the little picture tab....always has been there.

You lost me there, Cargo - which picture tab are you talking about? I just booted up the game and there is no mention of 'A-Spec'' in any of the blurbs that are used as preamble to the Events. Please point me towards it - much appreciated.

Also - In GT4 B-Spec we could also drive in the race - so B-Spec doesn't generally mean bot drivers only.

That notwithstanding, I mistakenly used the term B-Spec while hurriedly and drunkenly typing on my iPhone amidst distractions. You'll never let that die, will you? You ought to.

Please don't flatter yourself - I'd already forgotten about you - too many members to keep track of for a guy awarded 'Friendlist Member' two years in a row. :) I may have even been defending those who have been misdirected. 👍
I 'll try to keep you in mind . . . positively, hopefully :)
 
Got my non-oil changed 295hp HSV-010 out and won this one. Trans dropped all the way down to 149, downforce F at 300 and rear at 550 just to get enough speed up to win. Not easy, but done.
 
Thank you. 👍



You lost me there, Cargo - which picture tab are you talking about? I just booted up the game and there is no mention of 'A-Spec'' in any of the blurbs that are used as preamble to the Events. Please point me towards it - much appreciated.

Also - In GT4 B-Spec we could also drive in the race - so B-Spec doesn't generally mean bot drivers only.



Please don't flatter yourself - I'd already forgotten about you - too many members to keep track of for a guy awarded 'Friendlist Member' two years in a row. :) I may have even been defending those who have been misdirected. 👍
I 'll try to keep you in mind . . . positively, hopefully :)


Its in the picture that @coryclifford posted, plain as day. 👍
 
wow i think this is the first time i have read thru the posts and found more positive remarks. you guys have gotten excited to race these seasonals thanks!!!!!!!!!
 
Its in the picture that @coryclifford posted, plain as day. 👍
Yeah, there's THAT, too!

Photon makes many posts, yet says nothing. That's a little odd in this thread, considering he hasn't even attempted the race and has gained no relevant insight to share.

I, on the other hand, can tell you @praiano63 Re Amemiya AsparaDrink RX7 '06 is an easy first attempt win. Standard engine tuning, power limiter 96.7.
 
RX7 GT300 Base Model 06
did the trick for me...

Good suggestion, worked for me as well first try. Already lowered top speed from 280 to 250 km/h before I started. the rest of the car is Praiano's tune from another recent time trial event at brands hatch.
 
Yeah, there's THAT, too!

Photon makes many posts, yet says nothing. That's a little odd in this thread, considering he hasn't even attempted the race and has gained no relevant insight to share.

I, on the other hand, can tell you @praiano63 Re Amemiya AsparaDrink RX7 '06 is an easy first attempt win. Standard engine tuning, power limiter 96.7.


I have to agree with you a bit on that. I really don't care that he has won "'Friendlist Member' two years in a row" and fail to see what that has to do with anything here. It would also be nice if he kept his "rabbit talk" in the thread that he created specifically for that topic. I don't care to read about it here.

Anyways, I've just got done running and winning this event with a stock Delta HF Integrale Rally Car '92. That's about the only rally car I have so I guess I'll go out and purchase some rally cars to try out here.
 
It's a little odd that this intermediate event is more challenging than some of the slower lineups in the "expert" seasonal.

This is exactly the sort of thing (along with the AI's strange braking in parts of Ascari) that gives players the impression that no-one is paying any attention to seasonals at PD.

I'm not suggesting that this event should be easier either. Instead, the "expert" seasonal should be more challenging with more consistent rabbit line-ups.
 
This is one more than I expected. So far out of 2 attempts with the RE Amemiya RX7 Base 2 2nds. First one by 5 sec, the 2nd. by .779 against Delta S4. He blocked in the last turn before the finish straight just enough that he got the jump. Think I'll try another grid.
 
4th was the charm against the RSC Raid. Won by 0.0883. I had 2 laps of 1:29's and last lap was 1:28.463. Same car R E Amemiya RX7 GT300 Base with tune by of course @praiano63 and changed the final to 3.00. It hits the rev limiter at the loops but doesn't slow down. Done with this one.
 

Thanks, I missed that while responding to Orido.
I also needed to have confirmation that it appears only on that particular visual - AFAIK - it appears nowhere else; not in the introduction or description of the Event, nor at the official site (if there is, again I would like to see it.) It appears so far as part of the 'art' in the 'label' that promotes the event - much like the pretty bow.

If there is mention of it anywhere else, I would most appreciate someone hunting that clue out and laying it on the table for all to see.

I asked this question several weeks ago, because while we continued to consider them 'A-Spec' events, there is no other mention anywhere else, not even in Career Mode that this game has 'A-Spec' Events. In fact, as we can all see now, there is only the mention of it in that illustrated header - whether mis-communication between the different people involved setting up the Events, or a very subliminal way of getting us to think of them as 'A-Spec' events while branding them everywhere else they are mentioned - in text - as 'Race-type' events.

Let me explain (for all curious as to my intentions; second-guessing me always end up in nowhere-land :) ) why I was curious about this.

To have a B-Spec, we must first have an 'A-Spec'. They did away with 'A-Spec' when we got GT6. They promised us - 'B-Spec' - but of course at the time we had no other label for it. We might have even referred to it as 'Director's' mode as in GT4, but that would have complicated matters further.
So how can they present 'B-Spec' to us?

Obviously, it's just a game. Not a lot of players will care (unless they call it C-Spec - then there might be some head-scratching.) Those who are paying a little more attention to the game might wonder.

Let's consider something else - with this same 'A-Spec' conundrum in mind.
In GT4 we could train a driver, get him (or her) to race alone, or in fact join them as partners in Enduros.
In GT5 we could train up to six drivers - but they raced alone against their opponents - even online - but we could not join them.
In GT6, we have nothing of this sort. Yet.

As a developer of a game, one would think that the next level would be to amalgamate these features - in fact have a 'Director's' or 'B-Spec' mode that will permit us to train drivers, race them against opponents, race with them against opponents, and race them against other players' B-Spec (there's that term again) drivers. This should (given the technology possible) be the next level, unless Marketing decides to hold back features - or even more likely - wait for the next platform as more of a solid 'brain' or as a more profitable venture. (This means all this could come in GT7 on PS4.)

So while the term 'A-Spec' is so freely used to describe these events, I, myself - like Dragonbeard, whom I originally questioned (and in reading that post will find I agree with -) cannot truly regard them as A-Spec (versus B-spec) but as they are touted elsewhere (and pretty much everywhere else these events are mentioned) as 'race-type' events.
In which case that can be accepted as the truth - 'race-type' events - but race type-events that are handicap races.

What would be the alternative to handicap races? Standing start grid-type based on qualifying.

These would both be 'race-type' events and would fall under the description of 'racing' (as opposed to hot-lapping.) Whether we want to call them A-Spec events indiscriminately is where the problem begins to rear its head and can cause confusion for both old hands at the game as well as newcomers - since we're still in the twilight zone of not knowing when B-Spec will arrive, and when and if it does, whether it would be called 'B-Spec' at all.

I have to mention here that nowhere on my 15th anniversary edition box-art is there any mention of A-Spec, or B-Spec, or any promised content apart from Online accessibility and VGTs - both these promises now fulfilled.

Not a real big deal - apart from my curiosity.


@Ridox2JZGTE - I'm sorry, I had to tear off there in a hurry and couldn't explain why I asked you if you had any Driver Aids on.
You mentioned that you noticed that the AI (we won't talk 'rabbits' in here 'AI' sounds more professional tech-talk, right? ;) ) were not cornering well at all - in fact significantly bad enough for you to mention this.
In my present round of tests, which show more and more that the AI react to our settings, I needed to confirm with you that your AI was behaving a lot less speedily - and behaving a lot less speedily because you had all assists off - which you then confirmed.
Have you tried running (as blasphemous as it may sound) with all possible options that will make you drive faster (never mind you can't smell the leather) and will your AI still drive around like they did when you had assists off? How much faster will your AI competition be?

Yeah, there's THAT, too!

Photon makes many posts, yet says nothing.

Yet another personal attack? Read more. You may be reading me.

That's a little odd in this thread, considering he hasn't even attempted the race and has gained no relevant insight to share.

I just prefer to paint and take pretty, pretty pictures, Jbaffoh - you don't mind do you? ;)

I, on the other hand, can tell you @praiano63 Re Amemiya AsparaDrink RX7 '06 is an easy first attempt win. Standard engine tuning, power limiter 96.7.

Wowsers. :boggled: Well done!


Photon makes many posts, yet says nothing.
I have to agree with you a bit on that. It would also be nice if he kept his "rabbit talk" in the thread that he created specifically for that topic. I don't care to read about it here.

That's quite amusing considering this:

Ah, something to work for.....I like it. 👍

. . . and where and when it came from.

As for the 'friendly member' bit: Two things - One: having so many friends it's hard to give attention all the time it is begged for - and, Two: if I don't get along with you . . . I'm willing to bet that you both don't get along too well with many others, either. I don't feel singled out. :)
 
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@Ridox2JZGTE - I'm sorry, I had to tear off there in a hurry and couldn't explain why I asked you if you had any Driver Aids on.
You mentioned that you noticed that the AI (we won't talk 'rabbits' in here 'AI' sounds more professional tech-talk, right? ;) ) were not cornering well at all - in fact significantly bad enough for you to mention this.
In my present round of tests, which show more and more that the AI react to our settings, I needed to confirm with you that your AI was behaving a lot less speedily - and behaving a lot less speedily because you had all assists off - which you then confirmed.
Have you tried running (as blasphemous as it may sound) with all possible options that will make you drive faster (never mind you can't smell the leather) and will your AI still drive around like they did when you had assists off? How much faster will your AI competition be?

I need to clarify a bit, AI was driving like they usually would, rabbits that goes relatively quick in straight ( some times ) and crawl on corner entry and mid to exit :lol: I also notice, sometimes the AI cars hesitate to WOT when I was close behind them or beside them, this is often happen on the straight after the 1st hairpin, right when you are on a decline ( the road widens ), also other parts of the track where you are next to them.

I also tried another session ( quit then reenter ) to get different AI cars - I got Nismo GTR N24, 205 Evo, Lancia Delta S4 and Quattro S1 as 4 leading AI. To my surprise, the Nismo GTR N24 is slow, stuck on 5th or 4th and Lancia Delta S4 is the lead while Quattro S1 seems to be struggling/confused, to pass or not to pass the leader :lol: The lap times were similar but the Lancia Delta S4 is a bit quicker, I need at least 4:47-48s total time to win.

I never drive with assists, so I don't know if having them on will make AI faster, seems weird :lol: If I used ABS 1, then it would be a lot easier for me to win as I can mash the brake and lose all the fun :lol:

I got into 8th at the end of 1st lap, 3rd at the end of 2nd lap on most of races. The 1st race I got 2nd at the end of 2nd lap, because AI decide to kiss the wall at the chicane when I try to outbrake from the inside.

I'll give the all assist run a try :P See how it goes.
 
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Thanks, I missed that while responding to Orido.
I also needed to have confirmation that it appears only on that particular visual - AFAIK - it appears nowhere else; not in the introduction or description of the Event, nor at the official site (if there is, again I would like to see it.) It appears so far as part of the 'art' in the 'label' that promotes the event - much like the pretty bow.

If there is mention of it anywhere else, I would most appreciate someone hunting that clue out and laying it on the table for all to see.

I asked this question several weeks ago, because while we continued to consider them 'A-Spec' events, there is no other mention anywhere else, not even in Career Mode that this game has 'A-Spec' Events. In fact, as we can all see now, there is only the mention of it in that illustrated header - whether mis-communication between the different people involved setting up the Events, or a very subliminal way of getting us to think of them as 'A-Spec' events while branding them everywhere else they are mentioned - in text - as 'Race-type' events.

Let me explain (for all curious as to my intentions; second-guessing me always end up in nowhere-land :) ) why I was curious about this.

To have a B-Spec, we must first have an 'A-Spec'. They did away with 'A-Spec' when we got GT6. They promised us - 'B-Spec' - but of course at the time we had no other label for it. We might have even referred to it as 'Director's' mode as in GT4, but that would have complicated matters further.
So how can they present 'B-Spec' to us?

Obviously, it's just a game. Not a lot of players will care (unless they call it C-Spec - then there might be some head-scratching.) Those who are paying a little more attention to the game might wonder.

Let's consider something else - with this same 'A-Spec' conundrum in mind.
In GT4 we could train a driver, get him (or her) to race alone, or in fact join them as partners in Enduros.
In GT5 we could train up to six drivers - but they raced alone against their opponents - even online - but we could not join them.
In GT6, we have nothing of this sort. Yet.

As a developer of a game, one would think that the next level would be to amalgamate these features - in fact have a 'Director's' or 'B-Spec' mode that will permit us to train drivers, race them against opponents, race with them against opponents, and race them against other players' B-Spec (there's that term again) drivers. This should (given the technology possible) be the next level, unless Marketing decides to hold back features - or even more likely - wait for the next platform as more of a solid 'brain' or as a more profitable venture. (This means all this could come in GT7 on PS4.)

So while the term 'A-Spec' is so freely used to describe these events, I, myself - like Dragonbeard, whom I originally questioned (and in reading that post will find I agree with -) cannot truly regard them as A-Spec (versus B-spec) but as they are touted elsewhere (and pretty much everywhere else these events are mentioned) as 'race-type' events.
In which case that can be accepted as the truth - 'race-type' events - but race type-events that are handicap races.

What would be the alternative to handicap races? Standing start grid-type based on qualifying.

These would both be 'race-type' events and would fall under the description of 'racing' (as opposed to hot-lapping.) Whether we want to call them A-Spec events indiscriminately is where the problem begins to rear its head and can cause confusion for both old hands at the game as well as newcomers - since we're still in the twilight zone of not knowing when B-Spec will arrive, and when and if it does, whether it would be called 'B-Spec' at all.

I have to mention here that nowhere on my 15th anniversary edition box-art is there any mention of A-Spec, or B-Spec, or any promised content apart from Online accessibility and VGTs - both these promises now fulfilled.

Not a real big deal - apart from my curiosity.


@Ridox2JZGTE - I'm sorry, I had to tear off there in a hurry and couldn't explain why I asked you if you had any Driver Aids on.
You mentioned that you noticed that the AI (we won't talk 'rabbits' in here 'AI' sounds more professional tech-talk, right? ;) ) were not cornering well at all - in fact significantly bad enough for you to mention this.
In my present round of tests, which show more and more that the AI react to our settings, I needed to confirm with you that your AI was behaving a lot less speedily - and behaving a lot less speedily because you had all assists off - which you then confirmed.
Have you tried running (as blasphemous as it may sound) with all possible options that will make you drive faster (never mind you can't smell the leather) and will your AI still drive around like they did when you had assists off? How much faster will your AI competition be?



Yet another personal attack? Read more. You may be reading me.



I just prefer to paint and take pretty, pretty pictures, Jbaffoh - you don't mind do you? ;)



Wowsers. :boggled: Well done!





That's quite amusing considering this:



. . . and where and when it came from.

As for the 'friendly member' bit: Two things - One: having so many friends it's hard to give attention all the time it is begged for - and, Two: if I don't get along with you . . . I'm willing to bet that you both don't get along too well with many others, either. I don't feel singled out. :)
Content-free, verbose, poorly punctuated, and absolutely irrelevant to this thread. Save this for your "friends," and spare the rest of us who are here to talk about the intermediate A-Spec.
 
Thanks, I missed that while responding to Orido.
I also needed to have confirmation that it appears only on that particular visual - AFAIK - it appears nowhere else; not in the introduction or description of the Event, nor at the official site (if there is, again I would like to see it.) It appears so far as part of the 'art' in the 'label' that promotes the event - much like the pretty bow.

If there is mention of it anywhere else, I would most appreciate someone hunting that clue out and laying it on the table for all to see.

I asked this question several weeks ago, because while we continued to consider them 'A-Spec' events, there is no other mention anywhere else, not even in Career Mode that this game has 'A-Spec' Events. In fact, as we can all see now, there is only the mention of it in that illustrated header - whether mis-communication between the different people involved setting up the Events, or a very subliminal way of getting us to think of them as 'A-Spec' events while branding them everywhere else they are mentioned - in text - as 'Race-type' events.

Let me explain (for all curious as to my intentions; second-guessing me always end up in nowhere-land :) ) why I was curious about this.

To have a B-Spec, we must first have an 'A-Spec'. They did away with 'A-Spec' when we got GT6. They promised us - 'B-Spec' - but of course at the time we had no other label for it. We might have even referred to it as 'Director's' mode as in GT4, but that would have complicated matters further.
So how can they present 'B-Spec' to us?

Obviously, it's just a game. Not a lot of players will care (unless they call it C-Spec - then there might be some head-scratching.) Those who are paying a little more attention to the game might wonder.

Let's consider something else - with this same 'A-Spec' conundrum in mind.
In GT4 we could train a driver, get him (or her) to race alone, or in fact join them as partners in Enduros.
In GT5 we could train up to six drivers - but they raced alone against their opponents - even online - but we could not join them.
In GT6, we have nothing of this sort. Yet.

As a developer of a game, one would think that the next level would be to amalgamate these features - in fact have a 'Director's' or 'B-Spec' mode that will permit us to train drivers, race them against opponents, race with them against opponents, and race them against other players' B-Spec (there's that term again) drivers. This should (given the technology possible) be the next level, unless Marketing decides to hold back features - or even more likely - wait for the next platform as more of a solid 'brain' or as a more profitable venture. (This means all this could come in GT7 on PS4.)

So while the term 'A-Spec' is so freely used to describe these events, I, myself - like Dragonbeard, whom I originally questioned (and in reading that post will find I agree with -) cannot truly regard them as A-Spec (versus B-spec) but as they are touted elsewhere (and pretty much everywhere else these events are mentioned) as 'race-type' events.
In which case that can be accepted as the truth - 'race-type' events - but race type-events that are handicap races.

What would be the alternative to handicap races? Standing start grid-type based on qualifying.

These would both be 'race-type' events and would fall under the description of 'racing' (as opposed to hot-lapping.) Whether we want to call them A-Spec events indiscriminately is where the problem begins to rear its head and can cause confusion for both old hands at the game as well as newcomers - since we're still in the twilight zone of not knowing when B-Spec will arrive, and when and if it does, whether it would be called 'B-Spec' at all.

I have to mention here that nowhere on my 15th anniversary edition box-art is there any mention of A-Spec, or B-Spec, or any promised content apart from Online accessibility and VGTs - both these promises now fulfilled.

Not a real big deal - apart from my curiosity.


@Ridox2JZGTE - I'm sorry, I had to tear off there in a hurry and couldn't explain why I asked you if you had any Driver Aids on.
You mentioned that you noticed that the AI (we won't talk 'rabbits' in here 'AI' sounds more professional tech-talk, right? ;) ) were not cornering well at all - in fact significantly bad enough for you to mention this.
In my present round of tests, which show more and more that the AI react to our settings, I needed to confirm with you that your AI was behaving a lot less speedily - and behaving a lot less speedily because you had all assists off - which you then confirmed.
Have you tried running (as blasphemous as it may sound) with all possible options that will make you drive faster (never mind you can't smell the leather) and will your AI still drive around like they did when you had assists off? How much faster will your AI competition be?



Yet another personal attack? Read more. You may be reading me.



I just prefer to paint and take pretty, pretty pictures, Jbaffoh - you don't mind do you? ;)



Wowsers. :boggled: Well done!





That's quite amusing considering this:



. . . and where and when it came from.

As for the 'friendly member' bit: Two things - One: having so many friends it's hard to give attention all the time it is begged for - and, Two: if I don't get along with you . . . I'm willing to bet that you both don't get along too well with many others, either. I don't feel singled out. :)



Yea, I sure did say that...in the thread in which you created and not in another Seasonal thread. So yea, nice try but not quite. :P As for the A-spec bit, even though it was pointed out to you in plain text, you still refuse to believe it. :confused: You can't compare a "pretty bow" that is an obvious image to text that is written. It says A-spec, so I'm pretty sure that's what PD intended on it being. Just because we don't have B-spec doesn't mean we can't have an A-spec mode. You seem to think, or at least that's how you come across, that you are some official authority on all things GT and its quite irritating sometimes. I can appreciate your work in the "rabbit" thread and others, but that still doesn't make you right all the time. I'm not saying I'm right either, I'm just going by what's written on the little picture tab plus it coincides with how these events were labeled/classified in GT5. Anyways, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree because I'm not buying what you're selling. :)
 
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