AE 86: Go Turbo or Aspirated?

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I do have two Truenos, the SS version and the standard one, just dont have the Levin cose i miss the flip flop lights. What made me buy the second was that i could change collors and i would like to dig into the car. Then i got surprised to see that it have 2 ways of catalist alimentation: Turbo or Natural Aspiration.

After finish the upgrades for this car, and picking the NA option, i got "only" 255hp (or something like that). With 6 gears with a short relation to reach only 210 km/h, its working good for drifting, maybe better than the SS version at some tracks, considering the trial scores. The kick in the 3rd, 4th and 5th are really direct and hold high RPM all the time.

Stills not a car enough to keep up with a FC, Sil80, or a S13. I still digging on the finetune for this car and i believe that i can reach a higher level.

So the main questions are:
Have you tried to build a Hachi Roku based on NA? Is this work fine?
What LSD and gear relation you are using?

Besides:
Is always better go turbo? Natural Aspiration can be a good option for Drifting?
 
Putting a turbo in the 86 brings some nice power, but it'll get hard to hold with comfort hards. Without it's a beauty to drift, but as you said, a bit slow.
Personaly I hate the SS Version, with it's wide power band hitting the right rpm is tricky.
 
Alex89
Putting a turbo in the 86 brings some nice power, but it'll get hard to hold with comfort hards. Without it's a beauty to drift, but as you said, a bit slow.
Personaly I hate the SS Version, with it's wide power band hitting the right rpm is tricky.
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The SS version doesn´t disturbs me by his huge power band at high RPM, but i cant get used with his dead response at low RPMs... even with the lowest turbo and a very shot relation of gears, i can´t make it goes naturaly powerfull at lower RPM.
 
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MONSTAR-1
Set 1 up with a Turbo and 1 for NA.
TA-DA
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WOW, what a great contribuition on there! What is your next tip? I can´t wait wait to read!
/Sarcasm

Seriously now, like i said in the OP, i already have 2 Truenos (SS and Standard). I don´t think that is possible to build NA in the SS, and the Standard got me this option.

What made me write this thread is that i dont know how often people use the NA option when its avaliable, or its just a dead option for all drifters.
 
N/A! Turbos are good but they lag(Turbines). Single Turbos lag like hell and Twin Turbos have less Lag so If you want to become Wataru from Initial D, go ahead. That guy is really good :)
 
Alex89
Putting a turbo in the 86 brings some nice power, but it'll get hard to hold with comfort hards. Without it's a beauty to drift, but as you said, a bit slow.
Personaly I hate the SS Version, with it's wide power band hitting the right rpm is tricky.
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SS version isn't that bad but maybe doing some gear adjusting and then that would help
 
I have 1 SS AE86, 3 Levins(Different colors and the white one is full tuned), 2 Truenos(one is N/A 150 HP and the other is Turbo but I remove it for N/A)
 
TakumiFuji01
I have 1 SS AE86, 3 Levins(Different colors and the white one is full tuned), 2 Truenos(one is N/A 150 HP and the other is Turbo but I remove it for N/A)
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Can u tell me ur LSD and Top Speed in the gear ratios (on the Trueno N/A, of course)? I want to know some way to cut the power of the car when i stop to accel and the engine still tossing torque, also find a way to sustain long slides at a decent speed without regain grip nor overspin.

AE86 are epic, a genuine machine to train pilots. But its tricky to setup like hell...
 
Honestly I hate to say it because I love turbos but try a supercharger. Like Wataru. It makes unbelievable smooth torque. Well worth it on a 86, but You are able to take off parts you know? I like to swap turbos for different tracks and to be honest GT5 doesn't have a great representation for turbos (Lag, sound so on....) I may have begun to think a high RPM turbo in GT5 is something like a journal bearing T3 45 trim lol! For LSD I usually run 60 for accel 58 decel and like 20 initial. Good base line I find.
 
NA, Turbo lag makes your life more difficult, I had stage 1 turbo on my car one time, took it of just to try, makes it a lot easier to hold a consistent speed.
 
I run a fully tuned na levin on comfort hards with a locked diff and it so fun, you have to thrash the thing to get the best results so challenging but so rewarding ;)
 
daltonlm
Can u tell me ur LSD and Top Speed in the gear ratios (on the Trueno N/A, of course)? I want to know some way to cut the power of the car when i stop to accel and the engine still tossing torque, also find a way to sustain long slides at a decent speed without regain grip nor overspin.

AE86 are epic, a genuine machine to train pilots. But its tricky to setup like hell...
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My LSD is stock but the tranny(6-Speed Fully Tuned) I put it in the same range as SS AE86 which is 250 but I now put it at 280 or 290 so the gears don't shift to early
 
AOS-
Who says I go Tsukuba? I never drive on tsukuba.
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What's wrong with Tsukuba? Thats my track....I only wish Ebisu was in the game. I drifted that on the PS2 D1 GP game and nothing like getting a few inches from that wall while sliding sideways at 40-50 mph!
 
Please edit your post instead of double posting next time.

And the Trueno cannot be fitted with a supercharger......
 
AOS-
Who says I go Tsukuba? I never drive on tsukuba.
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Oh, please... you know exactly what im talking about.

There is nothing wrong about Tsukuba, except some facts:
- Tsukuba doesn´t offer enough complexity to make the most typical mistakes appear (AWD dummies, Automatic gears lowbies, bad tunning freaks, wrong (or lack of) techniques...).
- If we open the Online Racing Rooms, from 10 drift rooms, how many will be on tsukuba? 7 or 8? Im no PHD at GT5 Drifting, but i believe that there are more low and mid skill drifters than true masters. And these larger audiency will be most of time in Tsukuba transforming that track in a hell.
- Many people finetune their car using only Tsukuba as test track. So many situations stills hidden for these settings and only shows at the worst moments.
 
ps3dan101
Try the Fuji d1 line in an na ae86 , separates the men from the boys ;)
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Than line is soooo hard I ether unsteer at the entry and get the last part right or get the start right and understeer when the coner gets tighter.
 
There's nothing wrong with Tsukuba. You probably suck at the map or you probably think it's just small. That course is used for testing cars(Seen in Hot Version), racing events(Like TRD N2), and D1GP. Support Tsukuba guys because I heard during the earth quake that the circuit got destroyed(A rumor). Same as Ebisu Circuit
 
I did my MR2 three ways, I had one MR2 GTS and two G Limiteds. All tuned to 450 PP, the GTS only got two power mods, and the SC and NA G Limited took a bit more work but they got there. I found that the NA build is much more tail happy, and likes to drift even though it's a grip tune. I have always found that an NA tune makes the car much more play full while staying predictable.

I'm not sure about the AE86, as I haven't done a full blown NA/Turbo/SC build at the same PP, but I think the NA will shake her money maker much more for you.
 
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