Aliens

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

 

[Dotini]

NASA publishes a white paper recommending more serious UFO research. The author seems to feel we already may have alien visitors, and hints they may be very small and not carbon based.

"In the very large amount of “noise” in UFO reporting there may be “signals” however small, that indicate some phenomena that cannot be explained or denied".

“I simply want to point out the fact that the intelligence we might find and that might choose to find us (if it hasn’t already) might not be at all
be produced by carbon based organisms like us.”

-- S. P. Colombano, NASA Ames Research Center
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20180001925.pdf

 

[kikie]

 

[Dotini]

History Channel is running a new series on the first public US investigation of UFOs. The story is told from the point of view of astronomer J Allen Hynek, recruited by the USAF to be part of the investigation.

After joining Project Blue Book, Dr. J. Allen Hynek (Aiden Gillen) is drawn deeper into the mysterious world of UFOs.
Credit: Copyright History 2019

https://www.livescience.com/64443-project-blue-book-ufos-history-channel.html

https://abc7chicago.com/entertainme...rofessors-role-in-investigating-ufos/5036716/

EDIT
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019...e-facts-behind-historys-new-ufo-drama-series/



10 Shocking Statements about UFOs by Scientists and Government Officials
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019...-ufos-by-scientists-and-government-officials/

 

[Dotini]

Exceptional, clear daylight 2016 Utah UFO sighting made public.
Edit: This video is likely a fake according to recent analysis.



Recent reporting on the UFO topic by the NYT, the US's "newspaper of record".
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/arts/television/project-blue-book-history-true-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/24/...=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer

 

[Tappajakoala]

Scientist has estimated it's more likely there's life out of Earth with bigger probability than change to win jackpot from lottery. And still people tend to win from lottery.

Everything is based on chemical elements, and since carbon is very common, it's most likely extraterrestial life is also carbon based, but not proven for us yet.

However, If I would be alien and knowing how incredible stupid we humans are (as dominating species on this planet) I also would stay hidden from earth humans like advanced species outer space maybe are doing.

 

[Dotini]

Scientist has estimated it's more likely there's life out of Earth with bigger probability than change to win jackpot from lottery. And still people tend to win from lottery.

Everything is based on chemical elements, and since carbon is very common, it's most likely extraterrestial life is also carbon based, but not proven for us yet.

However, If I would be alien and knowing how incredible stupid we humans are (as dominating species on this planet) I also would stay hidden from earth humans like advanced species outer space maybe are doing.

Thanks for contributing to the thread. All your thoughts are rational and well-taken. Yet I think the *whatever it is* behind the UFO phenomena has a long-term effect, deliberate or not, of evolutionarily influencing our perceptions, myths and belief systems. This may be no more that a mirroring of the human psyche in aerial and astronomical objects. Or there may be more to it than advanced psychology. I don't know.

 

[kikie]

Why do some Americans say "ellions" instead of aliens (youtube clips)?

 

[UKMikey]

Why do some Americans say "ellions" instead of aliens (youtube clips)?

Because they're secretly aliens? Seriously, it's just the way you're hearing it. I'm pretty sure they're saying "aliens" in their own mind.

 

[kikie]

Because they're secretly aliens? Seriously, it's just the way you're hearing it. I'm pretty sure they're saying "aliens" in their own mind.

No, it is not in my mind because people commented on it. One person even said in the comments, "say ellions one more time" or something like that.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Why do some Americans say "ellions" instead of aliens (youtube clips)?

Prismonunciation. Geordies call them "ear-liens".

 

[UKMikey]

No, it is not in my mind because people commented on it. One person even said in the comments, "say ellions one more time" or something like that.

My mistake. I should know better than to question YouTube comments. They're deliberately saying it wrong just to troll you.

 

[kikie]

That alien looks so .... ominous

 

[Dotini]

That alien looks so .... ominous

That alien needs to be debunked, or somehow explained, since it is not entirely consistent with my hypothesis that there are no aliens on Earth.

This is one of the most famous pieces of UFO footage that is nearly an hour long and not easily explainable. How would one fake this, or is there some other explanation I am not thinking of?
https://www.metabunk.org/2008-ufo-footage-from-turkey.t9844/

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFuivergbXA&t=1165s


Also: https://exonews.org/turkey-govt-confirms-authenticity-of-ufo-sighting-in-2009/

And this: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ufo...ards-aliens-as-the-world-s-policemen-1.789220

Finally, an explanation: https://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/09/the-kumburgaz-turkey-ufo-case-its-lens.html

 

[Dotini]

Interesting article concerning sharp scientific disagreement towards Harvard's top astronomer. It says something about the state of science itself.

Harvard’s top astronomer says an alien ship may be among us – and he doesn’t care what his colleagues think
Originally published February 4, 2019 at 12:36 pm Updated February 4, 2019 at 5:44 pm

Avi Loeb poses in the observatory near his office in Cambridge, Mass. His theory about an alien spaceship has made the rounds in the media and caused controversy in the academic community. (Photo for The Washington Post by Adam Glanzman).

Since publishing his controversial paper, Avi Loeb has run a nearly nonstop media circuit, embracing the celebrity that comes from being perhaps the most academically distinguished E.T. enthusiast of his time. This has some of his peers grumbling.

Avi Selk
The Washington Post
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – Before he started the whole alien spaceship thing last year, the chairman of Harvard University’s astronomy department was known for public lectures on modesty. Personal modesty, which Avi Loeb said he learned growing up on a farm. And what Loeb calls “cosmic modesty” – the idea that it’s arrogant to assume we are alone in the universe, or even a particularly special species.

You can find a poster for one of these lectures in Loeb’s office today, though it’s a bit lost among the clutter: photos of Loeb posing under the dome of Harvard’s enormous 19th-century telescope; thank-you notes from elementary schoolchildren; a framed interview he gave the New York Times in 2014; his books on the formation of galaxies; his face, again and again – a bespectacled man in his mid-50s with a perpetually satisfied smile.

Loeb stands beside his desk on the first morning of spring courses in a creaseless suit, stapling syllabi for his afternoon class. He points visitors to this and that on the wall. He mentions that four TV crews were in this office on the day in the fall when his spaceship theory went viral, and now five film companies are interested in making a movie about his life.

A neatly handwritten page of equations sits on the desk, on the edge closest to the guest chairs.

“Oh, this is something I did last night,” Loeb says. It’s a calculation, he explains, supporting his theory that an extraterrestrial spacecraft, or at least a piece of one, may at this moment be flying past the orbit of Jupiter.

Since publishing his controversial paper, Loeb has run a nearly nonstop media circuit, embracing the celebrity that comes from being perhaps the most academically distinguished E.T. enthusiast of his time – the top Harvard astronomer who suspects technology from another solar system just showed up at our door. And this, in turn, has left some of his peers nonplused – grumbling at what they see as a flimsy theory or bewildered as to why Harvard’s top astronomer won’t shut up about aliens.

What you can’t call Loeb is a crank. When astronomers in Hawaii stumbled across the first known interstellar object in late 2017 – a blip of light moving so fast past the sun that it could only have come from another star – Loeb had three decades of Ivy League professorship and hundreds of astronomical publications on his résumé, mostly to do with the nature of black holes and early galaxies and other subjects far from any tabloid shelf.

So when seemingly every astronomer on the planet was trying to figure out how the interstellar object (dubbed ‘Oumuamua, Hawaiian for “scout”) got to our remote patch of Milky Way, Loeb’s extraordinarily confident suggestion that it probably came from another civilization could not be easily dismissed.

“Considering an artificial origin, one possibility is that ‘Oumuamua” – pronounced Oh-mooah-mooah – “is a lightsail, floating in interstellar space as a debris from an advanced technological equipment,” Loeb wrote with his colleague Shmuel Bialy in Astrophysical Journal Letters in November – thrilling E.T. enthusiasts and upsetting the fragile orbits of space academia.

” ‘Oumuamua is not an alien spaceship, and the authors of the paper insult honest scientific inquiry to even suggest it,” tweeted Paul Sutter, an astrophysicist at Ohio State University, shortly after the paper published.

“A shocking example of sensationalist, ill-motivated science,” theoretical astrophysicist Ethan Siegel wrote in Forbes. North Carolina State University astrophycisist Katie Mack suggested Loeb was trolling for publicity. “Sometimes you write a paper about something that you don’t believe to be true at all, just for the purpose of putting out there,” she told the Verge.

Most scientists besides Loeb assume ‘Oumuamua is some sort of rock, be it an asteroid ejected from some star in meltdown hundreds of millions of years ago, or an icy comet wandering the interstellar void. But it’s moving too fast for an inert rock, Loeb points out – zooming away from the sun as if something is pushing it from behind. And if it’s a comet spewing jets of steam, the limited observations astronomers made of it showed no sign.


Loeb argues that ‘Oumuamua’s behavior means it can’t be, as is commonly imagined, a clump of rock shaped like a long potato, but rather an object that’s very long and no more than 1 millimeter thick, perhaps like a kilometer-long obloid pancake – or a ship sail – so light and thin that sunlight is pushing it out of our solar system.

And while he’s not saying it’s definitely aliens, he is saying he can’t think of anything other than aliens that fits the data. And he’s saying that all over international news.

“Many people expected once there would be this publicity, I would back down,” Loeb says. “If someone shows me evidence to the contrary, I will immediately back down.”

In the meantime, he’s doubling down, hosting a Reddit AMA on “how the discovery of alien life in space will transform our life,” and constantly emailing his “friends and colleagues” with updates on all the reporters who are speaking to him.


In a matter of months, Loeb has become a one-man alternative to the dirge of terrestrial news.

“It changes your perception on reality, just knowing that we’re not alone,” he says. “We are fighting on borders, on resources. . . . It would make us feel part of planet Earth as a civilization rather than individual countries voting on Brexit.”

So now he is famous, styling himself as a truth-teller and risk-taker in an age of overly conservative, quiescent scientists.

“The mainstream approach [is] you can sort of drink your coffee in the morning and expect what you will find later on. It’s a stable lifestyle, but for me it resembles more the lifestyle of a business person rather than scientists,” he says.

“The worst thing that can happen to me is I would be relieved of my administrative duties, and that would give me even more time to focus on science,” Loeb adds. ” All the titles I have, I can dial them back. In fact, I can dial myself back to the farm.”

Loeb grew up in an Israeli farming village. He would sit in the hills and read philosophy books imagining the broader universe, he says, a fascination that led him into academia and all the way to ‘Oumuamua.

“I don’t have a class system in my head of academia being the elite,” he says, as he leads a reporter into the locked chamber of the Great Refractor – an enormous 19th-century telescope where he sometimes does photo ops. “I see it as a continuation of childhood curiosity – trying to understand what the world is like.”

He joined Princeton University’s Institute for Advanced Study in the late 1980s (“Where Einstein used to be,” he notes) and later took a junior position in Harvard’s astronomy department, where “for 20 years no one had been promoted from within . . . They tenured me after three years.”)

As he tells it, his life story sounds like a cerebral version of “Forrest Gump” – Loeb always singemindedly pursuing his science and intersecting with the giants of the field, whom he regularly name-drops. Stephen Hawking had dinner at his house. Stephen Spielberg once asked him for movie tips. Russian billionaire Uri Milner once walked into his office and sat on the couch and asked him to help design humanity’s first interstellar spaceship – which he is now doing, with a research budget of $100 million and the endorsement of Mark Zuckerberg and the late Hawking.

Loeb mentions casually that when he was 24 years old he got a private audience with the famed physicist Freeman Dyson – and then pauses for effect beneath the 20-foot shaft of the Great Refractor, grinning until he realizes the reporter doesn’t know who Freeman Dyson is.


At midday, Loeb leaves the telescope and his office and descends to a bare white classroom to introduce the basics of astrophysics to a dozen new students.

If he’s mastered the national news interview by now, his lecture begins a bit stilted. He looks down at the table as he speaks. He asks the freshmen... Ten minutes later, Loeb goes off script.

“Did anyone hear the name ‘Oumuamua?” he asks. “What did it mean?”

Almost everyone nods, and freshman Matt Jacobsen, who came to Harvard from an Iowa farm town, volunteers quietly: “There was speculation that it was from another civilization.”

“Who made that speculation?” Loeb asks, smiling.


There’s an awkward silence in the room, and then Jacobsen cries, “Was it you? Oh my gosh!” and the professor smiles wider.


Video: The Washington Post’s Cleve Wootson explains why a recent admission from the government is intensifying UFO conspiracy theories.(Monica Akhtar/The Washington Post)



This story was originally published at washingtonpost.com. Read it here.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...and-he-doesnt-care-what-his-colleagues-think/

 

[Rallywagon]

He may or may not believe it, but by the end of that article, it sure does sound like he is revelling in his new found fame a little too acutely to make his theory seem anything more than a publicity stunt.

 

[Dotini]

When NASA declares formal detection of alien life is part of its funded institutional mission, then might it be assumed they already think the odds of success are high?


This image is an artist's conception of what life could look like on the surface of a distant planet. Credit: NASA

New NASA Team Tackles Next Challenges in Detecting Life Beyond Earth

The question, "Are we alone?" has been a subject of speculation for centuries. The answer may soon lie within the grasp of science.

Decades of research have led scientists to look deeply into the nature of life itself — what it is, how it began on Earth, and what other worlds might also support it. A shift in focus is now emerging as scientists recognize that with a strategic push the possibility of detecting life beyond Earth could be on the horizon.

To support NASA’s growing emphasis on detecting life beyond Earth, NASA’s Ames Research Center in California’s Silicon Valley has established the Center for Life Detection Science. CLDS brings together a diverse group of researchers at Ames and NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland to tackle the next set of challenges science must overcome to be able to one day detect life beyond Earth.

“We now have the scientific and engineering expertise to address this profound question with the clarity of scientific evidence — and we have a great community of scientists ready for that grand challenge,” said Tori Hoehler, the principal investigator of CLDS and a researcher at Ames

The center’s formation comes at a critical moment in the field of astrobiology, the study of the origin of life and its potential in the universe. A recent reportfrom the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine found that NASA should ramp up efforts to develop technologies capable of detecting life beyond Earth to use on future missions. The report, intended to help NASA develop its science strategy and research goals for the next 20 years, also urged the agency to seek collaboration with a diverse expertise outside of traditional space sciences to get more out of space mission opportunities.

In this spirit, the center is playing a foundational role in establishing a new consortium of researchers from within and outside of NASA with expertise in the physical sciences, biology, astrophysics and more. The Network for Life Detection, or NfoLD, will drive research in ways that inform where NASA should best invest its resources and the design of future missions with the capabilities of detecting life.

CLDS is joined by competitively selected teams from Georgetown University in Washington, DC and Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, Georgia to comprise the founding membership of NfoLD.

The Laboratory for Agnostic Biosignatures asks how we can recognize life “as we don’t know it.” Led by principal investigator Sarah Stewart Johnson of Georgetown University, this team of international researchers will lay the groundwork for detecting biosignatures of lifeforms that could be very different than those found on Earth, allowing for yet-to-be-conceived biochemistries that could produce exotic biomolecules.

The Oceans Across Space and Time team will investigate the possibilities of past or present life in the oceans of the icy, outer moons of our solar system, or on ancient Mars. By studying the conditions of aquatic systems that control their habitability, the team, led by principal investigator Britney Schmidt of Georgia Tech, will determine possible means of detecting biological activity in those systems.

Meanwhile, the center is connecting this new community of NfoLD researchers by building an interactive repository of information where researchers can explore and debate approaches in life detection that may one day be used to search for evidence of life on other worlds.

“The search for life beyond Earth cannot be a one-size-fits-all approach,” said Hoehler. “To give ourselves the best shot at success, we need to develop tools and strategies that are tailored to detecting life in the unique conditions of other worlds, which are very different not only from Earth but also from each other.”

NfoLD’s three founding teams are expected to be joined in the coming year by dozens of new teams that are pursuing life detection-themed science or technology development. It represents a relatively new organizing model supported by NASA, called a research coordination network. NASA’s Astrobiology Program organized its first successful one in 2015 — the Nexus for Exoplanet System Science, which was formed to study the habitability of planets beyond our solar system. NfoLD is the second one to come online with at least three more expected to form in future years in areas of astrobiology.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/n...ext-challenges-in-detecting-life-beyond-earth

 

[Dotini]

America's newspaper of record, the New York Times, continues to print prominent stories on the UFO subject.

‘Project Blue Book’ Is Based on a True U.F.O. Story. Here It Is.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/arts/television/project-blue-book-history-true-story.html

Aidan Gillen as the astronomer J. Allen Hynek in “Project Blue Book” on History. The series dramatizes, with some flagrant embellishment, an actual Air Force program designed to investigate and debunk U.F.O.s.CreditEduardo Araquel/History

Aidan Gillen as the astronomer J. Allen Hynek in “Project Blue Book” on History. The series dramatizes, with some flagrant embellishment, an actual Air Force program designed to investigate and debunk U.F.O.s. CreditCreditEduardo Araquel/History

By Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean

• Jan. 15, 2019
• Featuring a Russian spy murder, a self-immolation, gun-toting government thugs and other fanciful plot devices, “Project Blue Book,” History’s popular new series on the Air Force’s program to investigate and debunk U.F.O.s, is not your historian’s Project Blue Book.

We viewed the first six episodes from the standpoint of writers who have long worked on the serious side of U.F.O.s. We broke the December 2017 New York Times exclusive on a secret Pentagon program investigating the phenomenon, with our colleague Helene Cooper. Leslie Kean wrote the Times 2010 best-seller “U.F.O.s: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record.” Ralph Blumenthal has written about U.F.O.s for Vanity Fair as well as The Times.

So, despite the embellishments, we were interested to discover parallels between the TV version and the historical and current reality.

[Read the 2017 Times report on the Pentagon’s secret U.F.O. program.]

The History series predictably sensationalizes and overdramatizes case investigations and the historical figures involved, adding many story elements that simply never happened. It’s already hard enough for those trying to understand the truth about government involvement with U.F.O.s without mixing fact and fiction.

Lights photographed in 1952 over a Coast Guard air station in Salem, Mass., part of the Blue Book archive.CreditShell R. Alpert/U.S. Coast Guard

While Hynek was involved, Blue Book compiled reports of 12,618 sightings of unidentified flying objects, of which 701 remain unexplained to this day.

But what’s most important to study during that era is what occurred outside Project Blue Book, to the extent that it has been revealed. When we reported on the Pentagon’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which began in 2007, we offered a glimpse into a similar scenario today: military cases being investigated and filmed without the public knowing. This time, however, there was no public agency to accommodate reports of incidents, even when hundreds of witnesses were involved.

We learned through documents from the Pentagon program, and from interviews with participants, that the mystery of the elusive flying objects is still far from solved, and that not enough was being done to address that problem almost 50 years since the close of Blue Book.

The real Hynek, the Blue Book’s scientific consultant, at one of his observatories in the 1960s. Once a U.F.O. skeptic, he became a believer.CreditNorthwestern University

Samford called a news conference to calm the country.



Maj. Gen. Samford's 1952 statement on "flying saucers."CreditCreditUS National Archives

Hynek, the former U.F.O. skeptic, eventually concluded that they were a real phenomenon in dire need of scientific attention, with hundreds of cases in the Blue Book files still unexplained. Even many of the “closed” cases were resolved with ridiculous, often infuriating explanations, sometimes by Hynek himself.

a 2006 event in which a disc-shaped object hovered over O’Hare Airport for more than five minutes and shot straight up through the clouds at an incredible speed.

Our reporting in 2017, which led to briefings for members of Congressional committees, showed that not much has changed since the close of Project Blue Book.

Scientists may know more about the behavior and characteristics of U.F.O.s and are closer to understanding the physics of how the technology operates, according to A.A.T.I.P. documents and interviews. But the government still makes every attempt to keep investigations and conclusions secret, while denying any involvement to American citizens.

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[kikie]

 

[Dotini]

The UFO phenomena are real. The US government and other governments continue to investigate it. If you are interested in national defense, physics and reality, then you really should watch the video in the article.

https://silvarecord.com/2019/03/17/...etamaterials-ufo-program-alive-well-elizondo/

 

[TenEightyOne]

Supersonic Tic-Tac would be a great name for a band.

 

[Dotini]

Supersonic Tic-Tac would be a great name for a band.

Not at all a bad idea. Musicians are one of society's "Pied Pipers" that lead us into new paradigms (Bob Dylan, Blowin' in the Wind, Mick Jagger, Sympathy for the Devil). We need a new paradigm of understanding when it comes to The Phenomena, which, these new government investigations seem to be openly implying cannot be understood without also understanding the phenomenon of consciousness, as well as a much better grasp of gravity and light. That means that there may be no physical aliens involved in physical craft from other planets here, though they are not entirely ruled out.

Can it really be that no aliens or other material organisms exist here, perhaps only pareidolia and illusion, and that consciousness precedes and generates the material world? Well, that may be too weird, but obviously many basic questions remain. We will try to deal with them.

 

[Dotini]

Newsweek's unique take on the "top 25" UFO incidents for credibility.
https://www.newsweek.com/ufo-sightings-encounters-credibility-video-1371313

 

[Dotini]

Documentary on Nimitz encounters.



US Navy, Air Force, to revise UFO reporting process.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/23/us-navy-guidelines-reporting-ufos-1375290


EDIT:
This is significant. See below.

CBS Las Vegas I-Team confirms.
https://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/lo...ms-pentagon-did-release-ufo-videos/1963912703

 

[Dotini]

Stunning disclosure of how UFOs fly!

This video is about new physics discoveries on how UFOs like the "Tic Tac' are able to fly using very small amounts of energy. We discuss the political and military ramifications of this disruptive technological surprise in the light of Trump's replacement of General Mattis by Patrick Shanahan, the former student of his uncle, MIT Professor John Trump. Shanahan is allegedly the man who released the information we discuss and he has also championed the creation of the US Space Force.

 

[Dotini]

Award-winning space science journalism outlet reports a rational explanation of why the Pentagon is now openly interested in UFOs.
https://www.space.com/why-ufos-interest-the-pentagon.html

Leading political comment outlet publishes explanation for military and congressional interest in UFOs.
https://thehill.com/opinion/nationa...wn-force-flying-overhead-congress-should-find

Pentagon again confirms it studies UFOs.
https://nypost.com/2019/05/22/the-pentagon-finally-admits-it-investigates-ufos/


EDIT:
US Navy introducing guidelines for pilots to report UFO sightings

first to report the development.




Video shows Navy jet's encounter with a UFO, group says

The Navy does not think that aliens have been flying in US airspace, one Navy official told CNN. But there have been "a number of reports of unauthorized and/or unidentified aircraft entering various military-controlled ranges and designated air space in recent years," according to the statement.
"These kinds on incursions can be both a security risk and pose a safety hazard for both Navy and Air Force aviation. For safety and security concerns, the Navy and the USAF takes these reports very seriously and investigates each and every report."
The new policy will standardize how incidents are reported, and what radar or other data may be gathered that the military can store long term for further analysis, the navy official said.
Separately a senior military official told CNN that some of the recent sightings are highly classified military aviation programs undergoing testing in the western United States.
Because the sightings have garnered public attention, senior Navy intelligence officials have briefed Congress, as well as aviators on the safety hazards.
The Pentagon has intermittently over the decades funded various efforts to evaluate unexplained incursions and phenomena, but the last official effort was shuttered in 2012.




Former Pentagon UFO official: 'We may not be alone'

A former Pentagon official, who led that program and resigned in protest when it was ended, told CNN's Erin Burnett in 2017 "that there is very compelling evidence that we may not be alone."
Luis Elizondo made clear he could not speak on behalf of the government, but strongly implied there was evidence that stopped him from ruling out the possibility that alien aircraft visited Earth.
"These aircraft -- we'll call them aircraft -- are displaying characteristics that are not currently within the US inventory nor in any foreign inventory that we are aware of," Elizondo said of objects they researched.
He said the program sought to identify what had been seen, either through tools or eyewitness reports, and then "ascertain and determine if that information is a potential threat to national security."
"We found a lot," Elizondo said.
The former Pentagon official said they identified "anomalous" aircraft that were "seemingly defying the laws of aerodynamics."
"Things that don't have any obvious flight services, any obvious forms of propulsion, and maneuvering in ways that include extreme maneuverability beyond, I would submit, the healthy G-forces of a human or anything biological," Elizondo said.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/24/politics/us-navy-ufo-guidelines/index.html

 

[Dotini]

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html
‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects


“These things would be out there all day,” Lt. Ryan Graves said. “Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”CreditTony Luong for The New York Times

By Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean

• May 26, 2019

WASHINGTON — The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

“These things would be out there all day,” said Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years, and who reported his sightings to the Pentagon and Congress. “Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”

In late 2014, a Super Hornet pilot had a near collision with one of the objects, and an official mishap report was filed. Some of the incidents were videotaped, including one taken by a plane’s camera in early 2015 that shows an object zooming over the ocean waves as pilots question what they are watching.

“Wow, what is that, man?” one exclaims. “Look at it fly!”

No one in the Defense Department is saying that the objects were extraterrestrial, and experts emphasize that earthly explanations can generally be found for such incidents. Lieutenant Graves and four other Navy pilots, who said in interviews with The New York Times that they saw the objects in 2014 and 2015 in training maneuvers from Virginia to Florida off the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, make no assertions of their provenance.

“There were a number of different reports,” he said. Some cases could have been commercial drones, he said, but in other cases “we don’t know who’s doing this, we don’t have enough data to track this. So the intent of the message to the fleet is to provide updated guidance on reporting procedures for suspected intrusions into our airspace.”

Pentagon’s shadowy, little-known Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which analyzed the radar data, video footage and accounts provided by senior officers from the Roosevelt. Luis Elizondo, a military intelligence official who ran the program until he resigned in 2017, called the sightings “a striking series of incidents.”


shows a whitish oval object described as a giant Tic Tac, about the size of a commercial plane, encountered by two Navy fighter jets off the coast of San Diego in 2004.


Leon Golub, a senior astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, said the possibility of an extraterrestrial cause “is so unlikely that it competes with many other low-probability but more mundane explanations.” He added that “there are so many other possibilities — bugs in the code for the imaging and display systems, atmospheric effects and reflections, neurological overload from multiple inputs during high-speed flight.”

Lieutenant Graves still cannot explain what he saw. In the summer of 2014, he and Lt. Danny Accoin, another Super Hornet pilot, were part of a squadron, the VFA-11 “Red Rippers” out of Naval Air Station Oceana, Va., that was training for a deployment to the Persian Gulf.

Lieutenants Graves and Accoin spoke on the record to The Times about the objects. Three other pilots in the squadron also spoke to The Times about the objects but declined to be named.

Lieutenants Graves and Accoin, along with former American intelligence officials, appear in a six-part History Channel series, “Unidentified: Inside America’s U.F.O. Investigation,” to air beginning Friday. The Times conducted separate interviews with key participants.


‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects


The pilots began noticing the objects after their 1980s-era radar was upgraded to a more advanced system. As one fighter jet after another got the new radar, pilots began picking up the objects, but ignoring what they thought were false radar tracks.

“People have seen strange stuff in military aircraft for decades,” Lieutenant Graves said. “We’re doing this very complex mission, to go from 30,000 feet, diving down. It would be a pretty big deal to have something up there.”

But he said the objects persisted, showing up at 30,000 feet, 20,000 feet, even sea level. They could accelerate, slow down and then hit hypersonic speeds.

Lieutenant Accoin said he interacted twice with the objects. The first time, after picking up the object on his radar, he set his plane to merge with it, flying 1,000 feet below it. He said he should have been able to see it with his helmet camera, but could not, even though his radar told him it was there.

A few days later, Lieutenant Accoin said a training missile on his jet locked on the object and his infrared camera picked it up as well. “I knew I had it, I knew it was not a false hit,” he said. But still, “I could not pick it up visually.”

At this point the pilots said they speculated that the objects were part of some classified and extremely advanced drone program.


Lieutenant Graves with Navy flight log books.CreditTony Luong for The New York Times

But then pilots began seeing the objects. In late 2014, Lieutenant Graves said he was back at base in Virginia Beach when he encountered a squadron mate just back from a mission “with a look of shock on his face.”


He said he was stunned to hear the pilot’s words. “I almost hit one of those things,” the pilot told Lieutenant Graves.

The pilot and his wingman were flying in tandem about 100 feet apart over the Atlantic east of Virginia Beach when something flew between them, right past the cockpit. It looked to the pilot, Lieutenant Graves said, like a sphere encasing a cube.

The incident so spooked the squadron that an aviation flight safety report was filed, Lieutenant Graves said.

The near miss, he and other pilots interviewed said, angered the squadron, and convinced them that the objects were not part of a classified drone program. Government officials would know fighter pilots were training in the area, they reasoned, and would not send drones to get in the way.

“It turned from a potentially classified drone program to a safety issue,” Lieutenant Graves said. “It was going to be a matter of time before someone had a midair” collision.

What was strange, the pilots said, was that the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew.


“Speed doesn’t kill you,” Lieutenant Graves said. “Stopping does. Or acceleration.”

Asked what they thought the objects were, the pilots refused to speculate.

“We have helicopters that can hover,” Lieutenant Graves said. “We have aircraft that can fly at 30,000 feet and right at the surface.” But “combine all that in one vehicle of some type with no jet engine, no exhaust plume.”

Lieutenant Accoin said only that “we’re here to do a job, with excellence, not make up myths.”

In March 2015 the Roosevelt left the coast of Florida and headed to the Persian Gulf as part of the American-led mission fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The same pilots who were interacting with the strange objects off the East Coast were soon doing bombing missions over Iraq and Syria.

The incidents tapered off after they left the United States, the pilots said.

 

[Dotini]

Major news outlets react to weekend UFO revelations. All up and down the US east coast, Navy jets are interacting with UAPs, sometimes on a daily basis. Reporting and analysis is to be stepped up. Near-misses and close up visual sightings have taken place. One pilot described the object he saw as *"a cube within a sphere."

Edit:
*Note: the square within the circle has traditional symbolic meaning.

Washington Post:

What appears to be happening is that official organs of the state are now acknowledging that UFOs exist, even if they are not literally using the term. They are doing so because enough pilots are reporting UFOs and near-air collisions so as to warrant better record-keeping. They are not saying that these UFOs are extraterrestrials, but they are trying to destigmatize the reporting of a UFO.

UFOs exist and everyone needs to adjust to that fact

UFOs are not the same thing as extraterrestrial life. But we should start thinking about that possibility.

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Footage from 2004 shows an encounter between a U.S. fighter jet and "anomalous aerial vehicles," which is military jargon for UFOs. (To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science)


By Daniel W. Drezner
Daniel W. Drezner is a professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University and a regular contributor to PostEverything.

May 28 at 7:00 AM
The term “UFO” automatically triggers derision in most quarters of polite society. One of Christopher Buckley’s better satires, “Little Green Men,” is premised on a George F. Will-type pundit thinking that he has been abducted by aliens, with amusing results. UFOs have historically been associated with crackpot ideas like Big Foot or conspiracy theories involving crop circles.

The obvious reason for this is that the term “UFO” is usually assumed to be a synonym for “extraterrestrial life.” If you think about it, this is odd. UFO literally stands for “unidentified flying object.” A UFO is not necessarily an alien from another planet. It is simply a flying object that cannot be explained away through conventional means. Because UFOs are usually brought up only to crack jokes, however, they have been dismissed for decades.

One of the gutsiest working paper presentations I have witnessed was Alexander Wendt and Raymond Duvall presenting a draft version of “Sovereignty and the UFO.” In that paper, eventually published in the journal Political Theory, Wendt and Duvall argued that state sovereignty as we understand it is anthropocentric, or “constituted and organized by reference to human beings alone.” They argued that the real reason UFOs have been dismissed is because of the existential challenge that they pose for a worldview in which human beings are the most technologically advanced life-forms:

UFOs have never been systematically investigated by science or the state, because it is assumed to be known that none are extraterrestrial. Yet in fact this is not known, which makes the UFO taboo puzzling given the ET possibility.... The puzzle is explained by the functional imperatives of anthropocentric sovereignty, which cannot decide a UFO exception to anthropocentrism while preserving the ability to make such a decision. The UFO can be “known” only by not asking what it is.


When Wendt and Duvall made this argument, there were a lot of titters in the audience. I chuckled, too. Nonetheless, their paper makes a persuasive case that UFOs certainly exist, even if they are not necessarily ETs. For them, the key is that no official authority takes seriously the idea that UFOs can be extraterrestrials. As they note, “considerable work goes into ignoring UFOs, constituting them as objects only of ridicule and scorn.”

[The military keeps encountering UFOs. Why doesn’t the Pentagon care?]

In recent years, however, there has been a subtle shift that poses some interesting questions for their argument. For one thing, discussion of actual UFOs has been the topic of some serious mainstream media coverage. There was the December 2017 New York Times story by Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean about the Defense Department’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which was tasked with cataloguing UFOs recorded by military pilots. DoD officials confirmed its existence. Though this story generated some justified skepticism, it represented the first time the U.S. government acknowledged the existence of such a program.


What we know — and don't know — about aliens and UFOs

The Post's Cleve R. Wootson Jr. explains why a recent admission from the government is like pouring kerosene on UFO conspiracy theories. (Video: Monica Akhtar/Photo: Bill O'Leary/The Washington Post)

Then, there were the reports last November about Oumuamua, “a mysterious, cigar-shaped interstellar object [that] fell through our solar system at an extraordinary speed,” according to New York’s Eric Levits. Oumuamua’s shape and trajectory were unusual enough for some genuine astrophysicists to publish a paper suggesting the possibility that it was an artificial construction relying on a solar sail. Again, this prompted skeptical reactions, but even those skeptics could not completely rule out the possibility that extraterrestrial activity was involved.

[Why scientists sometimes make extraordinary claims]

Then, on Monday, the New York Times came out with another story by the same reporters who broke the 2017 story:

The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

“These things would be out there all day,” said Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years, and who reported his sightings to the Pentagon and Congress. “Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”....

No one in the Defense Department is saying that the objects were extraterrestrial, and experts emphasize that earthly explanations can generally be found for such incidents. Lieutenant Graves and four other Navy pilots, who said in interviews with The New York Times that they saw the objects in 2014 and 2015 in training maneuvers from Virginia to Florida off the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, make no assertions of their provenance.


The Times reporters broke new ground by getting pilots on record. What is interesting about this latest news cycle, however, is that DoD officials are not behaving as Wendt and Duvall would predict. Indeed, Politico’s Bryan Bender reported last month that, “The U.S. Navy is drafting new guidelines for pilots and other personnel to report encounters with ‘unidentified aircraft,’ a significant new step in creating a formal process to collect and analyze the unexplained sightings — and destigmatize them.” My Post colleague Deanna Paul followed up by reporting that “Luis Elizondo, a former senior intelligence officer, told The Post that the new Navy guidelines formalized the reporting process, facilitating data-driven analysis while removing the stigma from talking about UFOs, calling it ‘the single greatest decision the Navy has made in decades.’ ”

What appears to be happening is that official organs of the state are now acknowledging that UFOs exist, even if they are not literally using the term. They are doing so because enough pilots are reporting UFOs and near-air collisions so as to warrant better record-keeping. They are not saying that these UFOs are extraterrestrials, but they are trying to destigmatize the reporting of a UFO.

Still, the very fact that this step has been taken somewhat weakens the Wendt and Duvall thesis. This was always a two-step process: (a) Acknowledge that UFOs exist; and (b) Consider that the UFOs might be ETs.

In recent years, the U.S. national security bureaucracy has met the first criterion. What happens to our understanding of the universe if great powers meet that second one?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...eeds-adjust-that-fact/?utm_term=.9fcc206e6702

ABC TV:


Rolling Stone:
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MAY 28, 2019 1:36PM ET

Yet Another Sign of the Apocalypse: Navy Pilots Reported UFO Sightings on Almost ‘Daily Basis’
Welp, we had a good run!

By
EJ DICKSON

Every once in a while, a news item surfaces that prompts you to throw up your hands, sink back into your chair and begrudgingly welcome the impending apocalypse. The most recent item on this docket: A New York Times report confirming that between 2014 and 2015, Navy pilots reported “almost daily” sightings of unidentified flying objects lurking in the air, including one that resembled a “spinning top moving against the wind.”

Well, we had a good run, everyone! Time to pack it in.

According to the Times report, the sightings began in the summer of 2014, with Navy pilots reporting that they spotted the vessels nearly 30,000 feet in the sky while they were conducting training maneuvers between Virginia and Florida. Sometimes, they reported, the vessels reached seemingly hypersonic speeds. One of the Navy pilots even almost collided with one of the objects, which apparently (and justifiably) freaked him out so much that he issued an official incident report about it to the Navy. The sightings apparently grew so frequent that earlier this year, the Navy issued official guidelines for how to report “unexplained aerial phenomena.” To date, no official explanation exists for the sightings, though a Navy spokesperson did say that a few of them could have been unlicensed drones.


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The Department of Defense has reportedly been tracking extraterrestrial sightings since 2007, when the Democrat senator from Nevada and then-Senate majority leader (and known proponent of UFO research) Harry Reid started encouraging funding for the secret Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. While that program officially ended in 2012, it has reportedly continued investigating reports of UFOs, and has looked into such footage as a video of an object resembling a “giant Tic-Tac” off the coast of San Diego, which was spotted by two Navy pilots in 2004.

To be clear, none of the Navy pilots interviewed by the New York Times would go so far as to speculate as to the extraterrestrial origins of the unidentified flying objects (or, as the Times puts it, the Defense Department has “ma[de] no assertions of their provenance,” which is a fancy way of saying that no one wants to run the risk of sounding bat**** crazy by raving about giant Tic Tacs doing the Charleston in the sky).

Yet even if there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for such sightings — which, let’s be clear, is most likely the case — the fact that they are apparently frequent enough to prompt the Navy to update guidelines about how to report them, doesn’t exactly strike confidence in the hearts of even the most skeptical Americans. Which is why this, combined with the explosive popularity of TikTok, are indicative enough that it might be time for humanity to call it a day.

History channel has unveiled new video footage from its six-part nonfiction series Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation that features Navy pilots Lt. Ryan Graves and Lt. Danny Aucoin, who have reported their multiple sightings of unexplained flying objects to the Pentagon and Congress from the summer of 2014 to March 2015 off the East coast. Check out a clip above.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/ufo-navy-pilots-840902/

From: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...os-encounters-new-radar-tech-key-in-detection

RAYTHEON
AN/APG-73 MSA radar on a legacy Hornet.

US NAVY VIA RESEARCHGATE.NET
The AN/APG-79 installed on a Super Hornet.

The main revelation is that technology exists that is capable of performing flying maneuvers that shatter our perceptions of propulsion, flight controls, material science, and even physics. Let me underline this again for you, the Nimitzencounter with the Tic Tac proved that exotic technology that is widely thought of as the domain of science fiction actually exists. It is real. It isn't the result of altered perception, someone's lucid dream, a stray weather balloon, or swamp gas. Someone or something has crossed the technological Rubicon and has obtained what some would call the Holy Grail of aerospace engineering.

This reality is very hard to process for many. There is always an out for some in the form of claiming an odd impromptu conspiracy or some hollow explanation that doesn't pass muster beyond the first paragraph, but in the end, it happened. As uncomfortable as that fact is, it's reality. So, we need to use this event as a lodestar going forward when it comes to evaluating and contemplating what is possible and where truth actually lies.

@TenEightyOne
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...-going-on-with-ufos-and-department-of-defense

 

[Dotini]

From interviews with the pilots it was learned that the UFO fleet continued to bedevil the Theodore Roosevelt and its support fleet after it arrived in the Middle East from its long training mission in the Atlantic. From this and the large numbers of UFOs encountered, it would seem logical that the unknown objects which sometimes hovered for days were not overly likely to be part of a secret US hypersonic drone program that bumbled across an aircraft carrier group in two oceans. But it is just barely possible, I suppose.

Another interesting thing learned is that the US Air Force seized all the data collected on the UFOs after the US Navy's Atlantic maneuvers were concluded.

newest reports:
https://www.space.com/ufo-sightings-us-pilots.html
https://www.livescience.com/65585-ufo-sightings-us-pilots.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/...-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/atv-trending-videos/

 

[BobK]

So this is the work of aliens?