America - The Official Thread
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Defamation cases involving public figures are always going to be difficult. But if I made a "verified $8/mo" twitter account and, say, impersonated @Danoff saying things that would defame him....I wonder if Twitter has some liability there. Dan lmk if you want to give this a go. 
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Defamation cases are difficult in general, but those by public figures are more difficult due to the actual malice standard from NYT v. Sullivan.Defamation cases involving public figures are always going to be difficult. But if I made a "verified $8/mo" twitter account and, say, impersonated @Danoff saying things that would defame him....I wonder if Twitter has some liability there. Dan lmk if you want to give this a go.
Twitter isn't liable even in the event that legitimate defamation occurs because of Section 230, as it should be regardless who owns it.
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Ultimately I think the twitter verification will be meaningless (because it won't be believable, ironically) but I can see it causing harm because of Twitter (at least partially) not just because of the user on the platform. The verification is the harm...would section 230 cover that? I think it's kind of murky.
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If that first tweet is legitimate I don't understand why anyone would want to work for this prick.
Too many employers think they hold all the aces and Musk is obviously one of them.
I have no idea of the industrial relations laws in the US but that threat certainly isn't legal and Australia and I assume the same can be said for the US.
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TheVerge has done a thing on that FTC thread from earlier today, initially written by a compliance lawyer who worked with Twitter over the last few years.
In itself, interesting:
www.theverge.com
But not quite as interesting as the final paragraph:
In itself, interesting:
Elon Musk is putting Twitter at risk of massive fines, warns employees
“Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.”
www.theverge.com
But not quite as interesting as the final paragraph:
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Well, Musk IS the communications department.TheVerge has done a thing on that FTC thread from earlier today, initially written by a compliance lawyer who worked with Twitter over the last few years.
In itself, interesting:
Elon Musk is putting Twitter at risk of massive fines, warns employees
“Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.”
But not quite as interesting as the final paragraph:
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Even after selling off that $15 billion of Tesla stock he's still reported as being worth over $200 billion, and investors and banks are still lining up to throw money at him. So saying that he probably doesn't even care if Twitter goes down in a ball of flame is a pretty fair assessment.
I'm pretty sure the only thing Musk actually cares about at this point is SpaceX and getting boots on Mars, even though that's still realistically decades away from being feasible. Evenything else has just been a means to that end and if it collapses eventually, oh well.
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It's an interesting question. I don't know if there's an actionable harm there, which is by no means to say that there isn't.
Mike here is a smart guy and provides some insight but also has questions.
In non-Twitter news, Trump lawsuit against Hillary Clinton is not only out but the legal team, including that ****wit Alina Habba who spends so much time spewing stupidity on Fox News, that brought it has been sanctioned and has been fined $50,000 in punitive damages plus compensatory damages covering what plaintiffs spent on legal defense--anti-SLAPP for the ****ing win.
Aaaaand back to Twitter:
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What's even more galling is that Musk seems to be revelling in trolling his own users, not just the one's he actively despises, but everyone. His juveline quips and churlish attitude throughout this sorry mess have done nothing to reassure long-term users (or anyone else for that matter) that the company and platform are in safe hands. But of course, it is all the fault of the haters if Twitter goes belly up. 
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This is a rather interesting read...
www.platformer.news
... and this is before today's further chaos.
Frankly, the way Musk treats his employees is absolutely ridiculous. And if Twitter is anything to go by, I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla and SpaceX employees start to speak out against the work culture at these places too.
I think Musk seems to think that because he owns these cutting-edge companies that his employees (who doubtless get paid vastly more than the average) will just take whatever diktats are thrown at them or they're free to leave. Musk seems to have very little regard for employment law, contracts or worker's rights, and little to no empathy for others.
Inside the Twitter meltdown
Elon is speaking. VPs are resigning. Is bankruptcy next?
www.platformer.news
... and this is before today's further chaos.
Frankly, the way Musk treats his employees is absolutely ridiculous. And if Twitter is anything to go by, I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla and SpaceX employees start to speak out against the work culture at these places too.
I think Musk seems to think that because he owns these cutting-edge companies that his employees (who doubtless get paid vastly more than the average) will just take whatever diktats are thrown at them or they're free to leave. Musk seems to have very little regard for employment law, contracts or worker's rights, and little to no empathy for others.
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Depends. If they can prove that the experience at the end of the month (and by the renewal date) didn't change, they could file for fraud. If you already purchased it, you have it. You can't buy it anymore.
Maybe they should have made it an NFT! -50 points to Musk for not thinking of that.
