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Do you really believe none of those incidents would have occurred if masks weren't allowed? Or that any of those criminals give a rats ass about whether masks are legal or not?

Obviously cause I brought it up already and he didn't say anything. So...guess it's like gun bans, if you do them no violence happens after. If you ban masks, a protest will never result in riots from masked perpetrators...

Man the world is so simple, damn who knew.
 
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That doesn't even come close to answering my question.



Don't bother doing your little runaround thing with this post either as I won't see it.
Are you serious,run around?
You won't see it?
So if you won't see it,then why do you want an answer.
I pretty much summed up with "Face recognition"?
If I have a picture of your face and as you state criminals don't care,well they do.
Because if your a criminal,it means you probably have a record.
Which means you have a picture and fingerprints that can be easily accessed.
Stored in a data bank.
If you don't have a record.
They have those little CCTV cameras that take pictures of certain areas of city blocks
Have you not watched CSI or something like that?

Tornado
I guess it is better than if you did it in the Great Lakes.

Wow,is that the best you can come up with
Like come on,up the game a bit,be a little creative.
Be inspiring to others,maybe you can add the St.Lawrence
 
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That you're basing your "arguments" off of things you saw in CSI explains so much.

No I base my arguments on things I know,or investigate.
As for others,well sometimes you have to make it easy on them.
Push them in a direction they can understand.
But your game is starting to roll now,good job.
Soon, you can work on more than a sentence.
 
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No I base my arguments on things I know,or investigate,as for others,well sometimes you have to make it easy on them.

Then you'd know facial recognition works the best when it is a straight on shot of someone's face, it has a difficult if the head is turned slightly, and if it's a profile shot it's near impossible to get a match. It's not like on TV where you can enhance a million times. Facial recognition is also racial bias and has a hard time with certain facial features. It's good software for sure, but it is limited.

Also most footage from crimes spawning from protests comes from grainy CCTV cams or journalist who have a big telephoto lens. Even without masks getting a straight on shot of their face is going to be difficult.
 
@killerjimbag Could you please try to format your posts so they are a little more clear? They're just about impenetrable, with colossal run-on sentences, commas thrown in seemingly at random and every now and then you quote someone else's post but paste it entirely in line with your own so it's impossible to know who you're responding to - or even if you're actually responding to anyone.

I've found it nightmarishly difficult to follow this discussion simply because your posts are so hard to read that it's not worth the time of even trying.
 
@killerjimbag Could you please try to format your posts so they are a little more clear? They're just about impenetrable, with colossal run-on sentences, commas thrown in seemingly at random and every now and then you quote someone else's post but paste it entirely in line with your own so it's impossible to know who you're responding to - or even if you're actually responding to anyone.

I've found it nightmarishly difficult to follow this discussion simply because your posts are so hard to read that it's not worth the time of even trying.
Sorry.
Phone has a problem with your end.
Copying and inserting quotes for some reason
If it's hard to read , and not worth the time.
Some seem to be doing quite fine.
But I will try to help you out, making it worth your time.
 
Sorry.
Phone has a problem with your end.
Copying and inserting quotes for some reason
If it's hard to read , and not worth the time.
Some seem to be doing quite fine.
But I will try to help you out, making it worth your time.
Yeah, now you see, that barely makes any sense... Let's walk through it.
Phone has a problem with your end.
When you say 'your end', what do you mean? Do you mean I'm just not seeing what you're posting correctly? Are you talking about my phone? Why would my phone be the problem? Or do you mean GTPlanet (which isn't me, and the coding is absolutely nothing to do with me) and are you suggesting that your phone has a problem with it? If it's the latter, what's the problem? Your sentence fragment gives no clues...
Copying and inserting quotes for some reason
Suddenly a new sentence appears! Okay so it looks like you're suggesting that your phone is having trouble copying and inserting quotes 'for some reason'.

Leaving aside what that reason may be, you're actually doing things the hard way by highlighting the text you want to reply to, then copying it, then pasting it. There's no need to do any of that on GTPlanet... Highlight the text you want to reply to, then click on the Reply button that pops up. This inserts it directly into the Reply box, correctly quoted and trimmed so it's just the text you want. Then everyone knows what you're replying to and the person you quoted gets a notification.

This works on any device. GTPlanet is a responsive website and thus looks and behaves identically on any device, adjusting its layout to suit, dynamically. I've typed this reply on my phone...

For some reason you've then ended this line with a line break, but no punctuation...

If it's hard to read , and not worth the time.
... although you've capitalised the start of the next word as if it is a new sentence. But then this is another sentence fragment (we'll ignore the space before the comma). You've posted this as if it's a complete sentence when clearly it isn't... I can't derive any meaning from this at first glance.
Some seem to be doing quite fine.
But I will try to help you out, making it worth your time.
There's no need for these things to be on separate lines unless you're posting song lyrics.

This is not easy to read, and I'm not sure how your phone is responsible for any of that. It's like you're trying really hard to make your posts as inaccessible as possible - to muck up a 45 word post so comprehensively that it just becomes the literary equivalent of mashed potatoes takes some effort.

Remember, GTPlanet is an international site with many thousands of members who do not have the privilege of having English as a first language. That's why we have this as our first two rules, to make life as easy as possible for them while they're here:
You will post all messages in English.
You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.
If, 'for some reason', the device you use for posting to the site is causing you to not adhere to these basic requirements, please reconsider whether you should be using it to post at all - and remember that we have a post preview function that allows you to see and review a post before it goes live so that if your phone is mucking about with what you're posting you can ensure it's not unreadable mush before anyone else notices.
 
Yeah, now you see, that barely makes any sense... Let's walk through it.

When you say 'your end', what do you mean? Do you mean I'm just not seeing what you're posting correctly? Are you talking about my phone? Why would my phone be the problem? Or do you mean GTPlanet (which isn't me, and the coding is absolutely nothing to do with me) and are you suggesting that your phone has a problem with it? If it's the latter, what's the problem? Your sentence fragment gives no clues...

Suddenly a new sentence appears! Okay so it looks like you're suggesting that your phone is having trouble copying and inserting quotes 'for some reason'.

Leaving aside what that reason may be, you're actually doing things the hard way by highlighting the text you want to reply to, then copying it, then pasting it. There's no need to do any of that on GTPlanet... Highlight the text you want to reply to, then click on the Reply button that pops up. This inserts it directly into the Reply box, correctly quoted and trimmed so it's just the text you want.

This works on any device. GTPlanet is a responsive website and thus looks and behaves identically on any device, adjusting its layout to suit, dynamically. I've typed this reply on my phone...

For some reason you've then ended this line with a line break, but no punctuation...


... although you've capitalised the start of the next word as if it is a new sentence. But then this is another sentence fragment (we'll ignore the space before the comma). You've posted this as if it's a complete sentence when clearly it isn't... I can't derive any meaning from this at first glance.

There's no need for these things to be on separate lines unless you're posting song lyrics.

This is not easy to read, and I'm not sure how your phone is responsible for any of that. It's like you're trying really hard to make your posts as inaccessible as possible - to muck up a 45 word post so comprehensively that it just becomes the literary equivalent of mashed potatoes takes some effort.

Remember, GTPlanet is an international site with many thousands of members who do not have the privilege of having English as a first language. That's why we have this as our first two rules, to make life as easy as possible for them while they're here: If, 'for some reason', the device you use for posting to the site is causing you to not adhere to these basic requirements, please reconsider whether you should be using it to post at all - and remember that we have a post preview function that allows you to see and review a post before it goes live so that if your phone is mucking about with what you're posting you can ensure it's not unreadable mush before anyone else notices.
Yep will do.It's my phone. For some reason,everytime I try to insert quotes, it won't insert them.
So I will go over this tomorrow on my PC with my phone beside me.
Thank you.
 
FWIW it took me 2 3/4hrs to get home tonight instead of the usual 40mins.
No doubt it's the same accident that caused it, good luck.

I'm at 2 3/4 and i think I'll be lucky if i get home in 4. It's ridiculous.
 
ROFL.

That's so cute. He thinks CSI is real. I'm stuck in a traffic jam and i needed a good laugh.
Actually if you read what I said. I said facial recognition. Yes it is real! They use it. Perhaps that's why they cover their faces? Be care full texting and driving it's against the law. Big brother is watching!
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/11/...have-a-nationwide-facial-recognition-service/
https://storify.com/kavehwaddell/facial-recognition-report
http://nypost.com/2016/10/19/half-of-us-adults-captured-on-facial-recognition-databases/
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...automated-face-recognition-to-catch-criminals
 
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Yeah masked people are usually intent on not causing trouble.
Yes they are evidently,how many more pics do you want of masked protesters,being non violent?I guess they carry around hammers to do carpentry later,and bats to play baseball in the dark?

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I guess perhaps drinks later at your house?Sure, lets go back to Starbucks and grab some more coffee!

Those are not protesters, they're rioters. How about we arrest everyone participating in a riot, masks or no. Sound good?
 

Do they? There was a crowd of around 2,500... all rioting?

The Independent
Most of the 230 protesters arrested during Donald Trump’s inauguration on Friday will face charges of felony rioting, a crime which carries a maximum sentence of a decade in prison in Washington DC.

Well, they do still say protesters. I wonder if they were all rioters?

The Independent
The 217 alleged rioters – who could also be hit with $250,000 (£200,000) fines – appeared before Washington’s Superior Court throughout Sunday.

Ah - I think I see - it looks as though "protestors" is a pluralised-noun for people who gathered with a presumptive purpose. Then some of them rioted which comes under the pluralised-noun "rioters". It also looks as though The Independent used the English language to express that. Very cunning of them.

What's your argument, exactly?
 
Yes, that is the first time, in the history of the media, that they have inappropriately used a term to downplay wrongdoing by a favored group.
Well he seems unmasked in the picture. So is he a protester,or rioter? Want to bet what they charged him with? Was he part of this group,read the tweet.

You can also read this, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...opped-three-journalists-inauguration-protests .I guess journalists covering the protests were charged with rioting,some got off others didn't.
Also just to add to face recognition,interesting how it works at airports and border crossings. Do you not think they pass it along to the FBI for access by other law enforcement agencies?
https://blog.littlesis.org/2016/02/...land-securitys-expanding-biometrics-division/
 
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Do they? There was a crowd of around 2,500... all rioting?



Well, they do still say protesters. I wonder if they were all rioters?



Ah - I think I see - it looks as though "protestors" is a pluralised-noun for people who gathered with a presumptive purpose. Then some of them rioted which comes under the pluralised-noun "rioters". It also looks as though The Independent used the English language to express that. Very cunning of them.

What's your argument, exactly?

The news is of course held to strict standards about what they're allowed to call someone when they're accused of a crime. That's why they say "alleged rioters". I'd prefer that they didn't conflate protesting and rioting. Yes it's true that protesters can riot, and rioters can be protesting... but "alleged rioters" is probably most appropriate. The news could also factually refer to them as "humans" instead of rioters or protesters, but it would be a biased decision. We don't actually know that everyone in the crowd of 2500 was protesting either. Some of them may have been supporters. Some of them may have been tagging on with a more popular protest with signs about the upcoming apocalypse (that does happen).

If I'm writing that headline it says: "Riot during Anti-Trump protest results in 230 arrests". Categorizing them as protesters or demonstrators downplays their actions and plays up the arrests.

Well he seems unmasked in the picture. So is he a protester,or rioter? Want to bet what they charged him with?
You can also read this, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...opped-three-journalists-inauguration-protests .I guess journalists covering the protests were charged with rioting,some got off others didn't.

I'm actually not sure what your point is anymore. Masked or unmasked does not make someone a protester or rioter.
 
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The news is of course held to strict standards about what they're allowed to call someone when they're accused of a crime. That's why they say "alleged rioters". I'd prefer that they didn't conflate protesting and rioting. Yes it's true that protesters can riot, and rioters can be protesting... but "alleged rioters" is probably most appropriate. The news could also factually refer to them as "humans" instead of rioters or protesters, but it would be a biased decision. We don't actually know that everyone in the crowd of 2500 was protesting either. Some of them may have been supporters. Some of them may have been tagging on with a more popular protest with signs about the upcoming apocalypse (that does happen).

If I'm writing that headline it says: "Riot during Anti-Trump protest results in 230 arrests". Categorizing them as protesters or demonstrators downplays their actions and plays up the arrests.



I'm actually not sure what your point is anymore. Masked or unmasked does not make someone a protester or rioter.
Sorry I edited my above post, please read the tweet. Here ya go, well we had 2.5k militants in the streets of DC on an unpermitted march, overwhelming majority communists. made it to the white house. #J20
 
I have no idea how that changes anything.
What,supposedly there were 2500 protesters according to journalists.Well according to this individuals tweet,there was 2500 militants on an unpermitted march. Here you can define militant for yourself. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/militant. You have no idea how it changes anything? I didn't call the 2.5 k protesters militant,they did. I'm all for civilized protests,but when someone calls 2.5k marchers/protesters militant,the credibility goes out the window.
 
What,supposedly there were 2500 protesters according to journalists.Well according to this individuals tweet,there was 2500 militants on an unpermitted march. Here you can define militant for yourself. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/militant. You have no idea how it changes anything? I didn't call the 2.5 k protesters militant,they did. I'm all for civilized protests,but when someone calls 2.5k marchers/protesters militant,the credibility goes out the window.
What does this have to do with making mask-wearing a crime?
 
What does this have to do with making mask-wearing a crime?
Let's think about this?Do you think these militants/protesters were all unmasked? “By putting on our masks we reveal our unity; and by raising our voices in the street together, we speak our anger at the facelessness of power,” reads a popular anarchist credo that was printed on the inside of masks distributed at a violent anti-capitalist protest in London in 1999.http://news.nationalpost.com/news/w...-protest-group-has-resurged-for-the-trump-age
 
Let's think about this?Do you think these militants/protesters were all unmasked? “By putting on our masks we reveal our unity; and by raising our voices in the street together, we speak our anger at the facelessness of power,” reads a popular anarchist credo that was printed on the inside of masks distributed at a violent anti-capitalist protest in London in 1999.http://news.nationalpost.com/news/w...-protest-group-has-resurged-for-the-trump-age

Since you're on a run here with copy-pasting whatever supports... whatever it is your point is, it's worth taking the time from rapid-firing anything you come across and read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence
 
Because one person calls them militants does not make it so. But regardless, the answer to your question is no... and I'm, still not sure how this changes anything.
Ok so we will use DC as an example,as this is were it happened.Again I will point to the law in DC.

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (Washington, D.C.)
§ 22-3312.03. Wearing hoods or masks.
(a) No person or persons over 16 years of age, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, shall:

(1) Enter upon, be, or appear upon any lane, walk, alley, street, road highway, or other public way in the District of Columbia;

(2) Enter upon, be, or appear upon or within the public property of the District of Columbia; or

(3) Hold any manner of meeting or demonstration.

(b) The provisions of subsection (a) of this section apply only if the person was wearing the hood, mask, or other device:

(1) With the intent to deprive any person or class of persons of equal protection of the law or of equal privileges and immunities under the law, or for the purpose of preventing or hindering the constituted authorities of the United States or the District of Columbia from giving or securing for all persons within the District of Columbia equal protection of the law;

(2) With the intent, by force or threat of force, to injure, intimidate, or interfere with any person because of his or her exercise of any right secured by federal or District of Columbia laws, or to intimidate any person or any class of persons from exercising any right secured by federal or District of Columbia laws;

(3) With the intent to intimidate, threaten, abuse, or harass any other person;

(4) With the intent to cause another person to fear for his or her personal safety, or, where it is probable that reasonable persons will be put in fear for their personal safety by the defendant's actions, with reckless disregard for that probability; or

(5) While engaged in conduct prohibited by civil or criminal law, with the intent of avoiding identification.
 
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