America - The Official Thread

[Liquid]

I don't think it's the assertion that the building is not well built, just the opportunism of putting yourself over at any possible moment.

"I have the best buildings! Seriously. I know construction and have the most cromulently built buildings in Noo Yawk. Bigly!"

TrumpSpeechParody.txt etc etc ad nauseum

Still no idea on the cause?

 

[TexRex]

I don't think it's the assertion that the building is not well built, just the opportunism of putting yourself over at any possible moment.

"I have the best buildings! Seriously. I know construction and have the most cromulently built buildings in Noo Yawk. Bigly!"

TrumpSpeechParody.txt etc etc ad nauseum

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

 

[ryzno]

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

For someone who complains about the presidents choice of words, you could do a better job yourself...

 

[UKMikey]

For someone who complains about the presidents choice of words, you could do a better job yourself...

Huh?! A remark which went over the heads of a couple of posters isn't exactly in the same ball park as your president crassly capitalising on a fatal accident in one of his buildings to make himself look better.

 

[ryzno]

Huh?! A remark which went over the heads of a couple of posters isn't exactly in the same ball park as your president crassly capitalising on a fatal accident in one of his buildings to make himself look better.

Profanity vs egotistical...
Trump didn't build that building anyways... A bunch of, oh wait.

I don't see the reason to be getting all bent out of shape.
And I don't think calling him an asshat is helping anything.

 

[TexRex]

Profanity

Quite.

Spoiler

 

[Rallywagon]

Profanity vs egotistical...
Trump didn't build that building anyways... A bunch of, oh wait.

I don't see the reason to be getting all bent out of shape.
And I don't think calling him an asshat is helping anything.

We aren't exactly some sort of political convention here. So calling the asshat an asshat isn't exactly hurting anything here either.

 

[UKMikey]

Still no idea on the cause?

Firefighters are still trying to determine this according to USA Today. Trump Tower NYC did catch fire in January due to a problem with the tower heating system, however.

NYC Fire Commisioner Daniel Nigro agrees that the building is well built but says there are no sprinklers installed. The article says that legally Trump (or whoever built his tower) is not at fault for this since buildings that were constructed before the city mandated sprinkler installations two decades ago aren't required to install them unless they're undergoing major renovation work, thanks to then mayor Rudy Giuliani upholding developers' objections on cost grounds.

Given that there's no legislation to protect them from similar incidents in old hotels, perhaps prospective NYC hotelgoers would be better off researching to find out if they've been retrofitted before deciding whether to stay there. Maybe the city could make it a requirement for hoteliers to warn them in advertising literature but what do I know?

 

[ryzno]

Quite.

Spoiler

What is your point? I'm sure I can find a montage of every President cussing.
I'm sure you'd cuss too if you had their responsibility.
My point is when I come here I look for posts more mature than the run of the mill FB video comments section.

 

[Rallywagon]

What is your point? I'm sure I can find a montage of every President cussing.
I'm sure you'd cuss too if you had their responsibility.
My point is when I come here I look for posts more mature than the run of the mill FB video comments section.

What you come here looking for does not mean we cant be a bit uncouth. Im sure there is something to say about sticks and rear ends here. While we certainly have a higher standard, we are a video game forum, not the gentlemans quarterly political forum.

 

[TexRex]

What is your point?

That it's not an either-or situation with him, with profanity on one side and self-importance on the other. He's a foul-mouthed egotist.

I'm sure I can find a montage of every President cussing.

Do it. Of course it ought to be from a point during their presidency. Context would be helpful too, because there are certain situations during past presidencies (Columbine, 9/11, Sandy Hook; I seem to recall emotionally-charged "foul" language during those times) where a President was overcome with grief and may have let something slip.

I'm sure you'd cuss too if you had their responsibility.

Maybe; maybe not. Definitely not so openly and to the imbecilic plaudits of supporters appreciative of the "candor." It isn't candor, it's disrespectful of his station. As I've said countless times before; looking beyond policy decisions (because someone's always going to feel left out in the cold), he's just plain not presidential.

My point is when I come here I look for posts more mature than the run of the mill FB video comments section.

Expectations subverted.



That said, have a look at the word and you'll see that it goes far beyond mere "profanity" (it's pretty benign in that regard, and I think it's generally accepted here as it's been used plenty by normal users and moderators alike). I chose the term, not because I wanted to say "ass" (ooooooooohhhhh), but because I believe it fits his character (or lack thereof) perfectly.

 

[UKMikey]

That said, have a look at the word and you'll see that it goes far beyond mere "profanity" (it's pretty benign in that regard, and I think it's generally accepted here as it's been used plenty by normal users and moderators alike).

In support of @TexRex's comment above, use of the term, even to describe a sitting president, is hardly without precedent on this board. I'm not sure, therefore, why Trump should be off limits. Respect is a measure earned.

At the risk of acting like an asshat about it myself... here's the relevant forum search:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/search/4111404/?q=Asshat&o=date&c[node]=65

 

[Dotini]

Watch for Trump to do something both dangerous and unwarranted in Syria, egged on by pro-Sunni British and French, and in urgent need of a distraction from the Mueller/FBI investigations into himself and his personal lawyer. I'm coming to the conclusion that he is (a) abandoning his base, (b) stupid, crazy or both, and (c) totally clueless and unprincipled.

 

[Joey D]

I'm not even sure why the US should intervene with Syria. Based on what I know about the situation, they're no threat to the US. Sure, what they are doing to their own people is horrific, but it's not the responsibility of the US to step in.

But never underestimate the desire of a president (both Democrat or Republican) to want to bomb the living hell out of a country in the Middle East.

 

[Dennisch]

If the US goes in, it should be under the flag of the UN or NATO. Not as a personal vendetta.

But seeing how the UN has been a non-factor apart from wagging the finger in Syria, I can see this going nowhere at all.

 

[Dennisch]

He needs a booster seat.

 

[Rage Racer]

Go on America, bomb another sovereign country into the stone age (and flood Europe with more refugees).
It worked well with Libya and Iraq, didn't it?

 

[Danoff]

Go on America, bomb another sovereign country into the stone age (and flood Europe with more refugees).
It worked well with Libya and Iraq, didn't it?

"Soverignty" is determined by the legitimacy of the government. Legitimacy is determined by adherence to human rights.

 

[Dotini]

Go on America, bomb another sovereign country into the stone age (and flood Europe with more refugees).
It worked well with Libya and Iraq, didn't it?

If that were only the case, the joke would again be on Europe, which would be fine. But in this case, Lavrov has said there would be grave consequences if we Tomahawked Assad again, and maybe killed a bunch more Russians. Would Russia have the nads to put a missile through the bottom of the US destroyer that launches the Tomahawks? Would Trump have the nads to launch WW3 if that's what Russia did?

 

[Liquid]

"Soverignty" is determined by the legitimacy of the government. Legitimacy is determined by adherence to human rights.

Does that mean that North Korea, Eritrea and Mauritania are not sovereign countries?

Just playing the advocate.

 

[Obelisk]

Suspicious death in Fitchburg MA being investigated - 6 year old girl dead and 9 year old boy hospitalized as MA State Police and Fitchburg PD investigate.

"This is an extremely active investigation" said the Fitchburg PD Chief.

MA State PD deployed detectives, CSIs, a helicopter and K9s to assist.

A woman was detained on an adjacent road and people are being told to keep away.

 

[Danoff]

Does that mean that North Korea, Eritrea and Mauritania are not sovereign countries?

Just playing the advocate.

Those would appear to be illegitimate governments. Any nation on Earth can defend the rights of the citizens of any country that violates those rights. Break it down to the smallest possible example... can a Chinese man fight off US citizens trying to kill me in America? Of course. Could he do it if he were a member of the Chinese government? Could he do it if he were instructed to do so by the Chinese government? What if it was US citizens working for the American government trying to kill a completely innocent person? Morally, nationality makes no difference.

 

[Rage Racer]

"Soverignty" is determined by the legitimacy of the government. Legitimacy is determined by how the USA decide it.

FTFY.

If that were only the case, the joke would again be on Europe, which would be fine. But in this case, Lavrov has said there would be grave consequences if we Tomahawked Assad again, and maybe killed a bunch more Russians. Would Russia have the nads to put a missile through the bottom of the US destroyer that launches the Tomahawks? Would Trump have the nads to launch WW3 if that's what Russia did?

I wonder, too.
But my guess would be that Putin won't have the balls to do it. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the troops at Khmeymim shoot down some Tomahawks at least.

 

[Danoff]

FTFY.

No.

Those would appear to be illegitimate governments. Any nation on Earth can defend the rights of the citizens of any country that violates those rights. Break it down to the smallest possible example... can a Chinese man fight off US citizens trying to kill me in America? Of course. Could he do it if he were a member of the Chinese government? Could he do it if he were instructed to do so by the Chinese government? What if it was US citizens working for the American government trying to kill a completely innocent person? Morally, nationality makes no difference.

 

[ryzno]

Trumps lawyers office, hotel room and home were raided yesterday.
I'm honestly tired of this stupid "investigation".
It was started with a fake dossier...
Everything "found" should be thrown out.
Hopefully he doesn't fire him cause that will really screw things up but the legitimacy of this "investigation" has gone out the window...

 

[Rage Racer]

Morally, nationality makes no difference.

I can't disagree with you here, but for your government, it seems like there is a difference. Not by nationality, but by whose side is the suspect on.

Not so long time ago, the insurgents from Eastern Ghouta - who's seen (by Washington) as the more legitmate government than Assad - opened mortar fire on a marketplace on the "red" (govt. controlled) territory, killing dozens of civilians. No one in the US government gave a damn. As well as they don't when the regime forces level civilian areas with heavy artillery and MLRS in Ukraine. And yet the Ukrainian government is being a quite legitmate ally of the USA.

If that were only the case, the joke would again be on Europe, which would be fine. But in this case, Lavrov has said there would be grave consequences if we Tomahawked Assad again, and maybe killed a bunch more Russians. Would Russia have the nads to put a missile through the bottom of the US destroyer that launches the Tomahawks? Would Trump have the nads to launch WW3 if that's what Russia did?

I wonder, too.
But my guess would be that Putin won't have the balls to do it. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the troops at Khmeymim shoot down some Tomahawks at least.

Or, Putin and Trump might play some kind of fixed game, to save their faces with minimal damage taken.

 

[Dotini]

Or, Putin and Trump might play some kind of fixed game, to save their faces with minimal damage taken.

I'd like to think so. But that sounds suspiciously like whistling past the graveyard. Putin may play chess, but can Trump even play checkers?

In the wars of the present, the ****ing that Britain, France and the US have given the middle east is being justly returned to Europe in the form of the refugee crisis. In the wars to come, I figure things could strike more closely to home.

In the ancient world as in the postmodern world, might makes right, the ends justify the means. There is no objective morality, no objective truth. But there may be karma.

 

[UKMikey]

Suspicious death in Fitchburg MA being investigated - 6 year old girl dead and 9 year old boy hospitalized as MA State Police and Fitchburg PD investigate.

"This is an extremely active investigation" said the Fitchburg PD Chief.

MA State PD deployed detectives, CSIs, a helicopter and K9s to assist.

A woman was detained on an adjacent road and people are being told to keep away.

That link doesn't work in my "region" so I can't open it.

This one does.

 

[Dennisch]

 

[Scaff]

What the actual..............................(and I'm not referring to the meme)