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That's a readout of Trump's brain scan - surely that's classified information?
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That's a readout of Trump's brain scan - surely that's classified information?
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The attack is now said to have been carried out by a Reaper drone firing Hellfire missiles.
It is worth noting that Iran has a more advanced drone than the Reaper - the RQ-170 - and could presumably carry out similar raids. Possibly this is how the Saudi oilfields were so successfully attacked.
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I am confused. What is Trumps's postition on the middle-east. It seems to change day to day?
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You know that's made by Lockheed Martin right? That means we also have a better drone than the Reaper. Further more, we actually have them, where as Iran has one they shot down. Further, rest assured, neither are our most advanced drone, just the ones you know about.The attack is now said to have been carried out by a Reaper drone firing Hellfire missiles.
It is worth noting that Iran has a more advanced drone than the Reaper - the RQ-170 - and could presumably carry out similar raids. Possibly this is how the Saudi oilfields were so successfully attacked.
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Many reasons including they are the only true democracy in the middle east but most importantly... Unit 8200/SIGNIT.
Israel has the greatest code decryption intel in the world.
I did two tours in Iraq from '02-'04. I remember vividly our commanders waiting on intel from the CIA to be verified by Mossad and 8200 before the Pentagon said mission go.
As for the events of this week I hope Iraq votes our boots home. I've been that young man breaching and clearing buildings, not sleeping for days with endless recon and movement, everyone considered hostiles it is hell and I have no more to say.
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IMHO it won't be drones that will make Iran victorious in the end. Like in the 70's it will be the sheer amount of american's blood lost in a war nobody understands. And it won't matter that for every American killed there will be 50 or more Iranians. Because the Iranians will face the US as a true enemy and will fight the US as if the survival of their nation depends on it. The Americans will just fight the Iranians because that's what their government tells them to do.
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Reminds me of this song. (VERY NSFW LYRICS)
Granted, the current situation isn't quite as dystopian as EL-P's fictional America, but certain parts of the track are still relevant in the current climate.
Perhaps, but I don't think it's wrong to assume the Trump and/or his closest allies would love it if citizens were ok with all that.
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Right. Just like the mission where Bin Laden was killed, is probably the first time most people found out there were stealth helicopters.
Splattering that Iranian general all over the Baghdad airport was both an eye-for-an-eye thing, and also a reminder to the neanderthals that they don't want to jump up in weight class. It's a reminder that we have the intel/technology to track you anywhere, and we can reach out and touch you whenever we want to. So stop pulling on the big dog's tail, little dog!
Perhaps it gets forgotten at times, that the US will park multiple nuclear submarines just off your coast and wait for you to go too far. Anyhow, whenever a US Navy carrier strike group arrives at the scene, tempers seem to calm (see North Korea).
My wish is that things do not escalate at all, but I also don't have much faith that the Iranians use enough reasoning in their decision-making. They often seem to blindly follow what they believe are religious mandates. Good luck with that.
Adam Carolla had a good take on the Middle East, years ago:
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Really? You calling Iranians "neanderthals" seems like a pretty neanderthal point of view. The Persians had a great civilization centuries before the founding of America.
What you mean is that Iran doesn't have the military technology that the US has ... but then again neither did the Vietnamese & they humiliated the American armed forces over a period of years. Iran has never threatened the US homeland in any way, while the US has been harassing the Iranians in their backyard for decades ... & for reasons that are difficult to rationalize . Should the US declare open war on Iran there will be consequences for the US that no amount of technological superiority will be able to neutralize. Of course, the US could destroy Iran with nukes - that would be considered going "to far" by the entire world.
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I think the big stick policy does not hold anywhere near as much leverage as it did 100 years ago. Warfare has completely switched from conventional red vs blue to questioning everything, blinded by layers of litigation.
I also think that Iran won’t do anything serious in return for the next few weeks either in fear of more strikes against their leadership. Another senseless killing won’t benefit them in any long-run strategy, if they even have one..
I also think that Iran won’t do anything serious in return for the next few weeks either in fear of more strikes against their leadership. Another senseless killing won’t benefit them in any long-run strategy, if they even have one..
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Applied properly Shariah law is about unisexual property rights, self-determination, the upholding of contract law no matter the size of the party and has a particular emphasis on the rights of women.
Small wonder the American bible belt is so terrified of it, its modernism stands against the extremist religious states in which they live.
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Well, then it's being wildly misinterpreted.
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Right. Just like the mission where Bin Laden was killed, is probably the first time most people found out there were stealth helicopters.
Splattering that Iranian general all over the Baghdad airport was both an eye-for-an-eye thing, and also a reminder to the neanderthals that they don't want to jump up in weight class. It's a reminder that we have the intel/technology to track you anywhere, and we can reach out and touch you whenever we want to. So stop pulling on the big dog's tail, little dog!
Perhaps it gets forgotten at times, that the US will park multiple nuclear submarines just off your coast and wait for you to go too far. Anyhow, whenever a US Navy carrier strike group arrives at the scene, tempers seem to calm (see North Korea).
My wish is that things do not escalate at all, but I also don't have much faith that the Iranians use enough reasoning in their decision-making. They often seem to blindly follow what they believe are religious mandates. Good luck with that.
Adam Carolla had a good take on the Middle East, years ago:
Or as Teddy Roosevelt famously said:
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I hope Iran is listening. I don't think he's kidding.
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Translation: "I get to indiscriminately murder anybody I want, and anyone who dares challenge me will face my wrath."
Like, did we even find out definitively who launched that rocket attack? Last I checked the group we blamed it on denied the attack. Usually militant Islamist groups who kill American civilians will eat up any chance to take responsibility.
I'd also like to point out that our president...
...has very publicy threatened to commit a war crime. The "leader of the free world" has pretty much vowed to commit an act of terrorism.
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With the way the military spends money the 2 Trillion probably bought them 3 used Humvee tires.
The sad thing is that even though it seems a vast majority of U.S. citizens want nothing to do with war, we won't even give serious thought to electing someone willing to actually do something about our warmongering.
The sad thing is that even though it seems a vast majority of U.S. citizens want nothing to do with war, we won't even give serious thought to electing someone willing to actually do something about our warmongering.
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If they even have one? The dude got killed because their strategy is working. You don't kill the opposing side's top general if you don't think that they pose a threat.
Well, unless you're just a psychopath that likes killing, but I don't think even Trump is that crazy.
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Correct, it is, just this Christianity is by evangelicals in the US.Well, then it's being wildly misinterpreted.
You also seem utterly unaware that Iran is the bastard child of the US's own making.
It's odd to complain about Iran, given that the US (with the aid of the UK) brought the whole ******** into being in the first place.
Not over throwing secular democracy to further past demands from oil companies should have been a lesson, seems it wasn't, and so the jingoistic ******** continues.
Oh and American firepower have done nothing but forget destabilise the world, make money for the military industrial complex, and fire up innacurate and misplaced nationalistic pride like yours.
The US hadn't managed to 'finish' a war in decades, so all that money and firepower has done is make a few people rich and create a refugee crisis the right then complain about.
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Right, but those articles and debates will avalanche. And the 2 trillion was borrowed from China. Economic warfare through cyberattacks is probably one way you can count on for the forthcoming Iranian counterattack.
One cheeky wag commented, "imagine they retaliated by wiping out all of the data of US student loan debt?"
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"Death to America" doesn't mean death to all Americans, it means death to the American system that oppresses the Middle East.
It's hard not to sympathise with their position when everyone is more willing to break promises and agreements than stand up to America's bullying BS.
Yeah, TOS goes out the window when you're a major figure on a platform. And unfortunately, Twitter is probably doing the right thing to just let him go. The public is more informed if Trump continues to stream his consciousness straight into the internets, and the risk of more "media censorship" BS if they cut him off sorta isn't worth it.
It's hard not to sympathise with their position when everyone is more willing to break promises and agreements than stand up to America's bullying BS.
Yeah, TOS goes out the window when you're a major figure on a platform. And unfortunately, Twitter is probably doing the right thing to just let him go. The public is more informed if Trump continues to stream his consciousness straight into the internets, and the risk of more "media censorship" BS if they cut him off sorta isn't worth it.
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Wouldn't it be something if Trump creates a war, and then mister draft dodger himself called up a draft.
All I know is im glad I'm to old and my children to young.
All I know is im glad I'm to old and my children to young.
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I think it would be fascinating to see America try to enforce a draft in this day and age. I honestly don't think it would work. The backlash would be enormous, and eventually Youtube will fill up with footage of Kent State-esque shootings as the government tries to enforce it through strength of arms.
Fortunately, the US military is structured in such a way that it doesn't necessarily require the raw manpower that it might have in the past. Like factories, automation and clever design has meant that small numbers of well trained specialists can accomplish a lot. Personally, I think it's a bit of a two edged sword in a combat environment where the idea is to be flexible enough to respond to any situation rather than eke out every last inch of efficiency, but the technology exists to support a very strong military without requiring a draft.
