America - The Official Thread

[Keef]

I guess I'm missing something Manchin's argument here.

According to the $15-wage hike PDF, it shows an increase to $11 by the end of 2022. That's basically 2 years if it gets passed now. Or is he calling for the first hike to start 2022 & then 2023 where as the current proposition starts this year. But even then, mandating $11/hour minimum by 2022/2023 sounds indifferent.

Yeah that statement of his makes no sense. The graduated hike to 15 will already go to 11 in two years like you said. Soooo. Some possibilities: One, he wants to stop it at 11 for whatever reason. Two, he thinks Dems will get a bigger majority after the 2022 elections to pass another rate hike. Three, and this is the malicious one, he doesn't want the rate to go up at all but is offering the compromise at 11 because his "better position" scenario is actually that Republicans will gain seats in 2022 and therefore any further hikes will be dead and all they had to do was compromise to 11. There may be other political possibilities I'm missing.

I'm one of little faith in humanity and I really do believe that many people are conniving bastards, so I'm leaning toward #3. We know he's barely a Democrat in ideology, he voted with Trump over 50% of the time, and that his state is heavily Republican. Everything about him voting for the hike to 15 goes against his state's party affiliation, but everything about him maneuvering to help Republicans in 2022 goes for his state's party affiliation. I foresee that if his compromise is successful, he'll simply switch parties afterward which would immediately kill all of Dem's and Biden's plans until the 2022 elections.

He's found himself in a position of extreme political power until 2022. He can single-handedly derail this entire train.

 

[Biggles]

I read what I think is a good metaphor for the current relationship of the Republican party & Trump: they're riding on the back of the tiger - it's a scary & unsafe place to be, but even more terrifying is to get thrown off ... so they continue to cling on.

 

[TexRex]

Gerry mother****ing Connolly not hesitating to call out the absolutely worthless sack of **** Jim Jordan.

 

[McLaren]

Josh Hawley backs the $15-minimum wage under the condition small businesses are exempt from it.

Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) has backed an increase in the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour if small businesses are exempt from the hike in pay—meaning only Americans working for big businesses would benefit.

Posting on social media, Hawley said large corporations could afford to pay their workers $15 per hour by 2025, but suggested small businesses would not be able to sustain the same rise in their wage bill.

https://www.newsweek.com/josh-hawley-backs-15-minimum-wage-one-condition-1571530

This sounds to me, like it would have the complete opposite effect of saving small businesses. Why bother working for a mom & pop shop when big business will pay you much more?

 

[Danoff]

Josh Hawley backs the $15-minimum wage under the condition small businesses are exempt from it.

https://www.newsweek.com/josh-hawley-backs-15-minimum-wage-one-condition-1571530

This sounds to me, like it would have the complete opposite effect of saving small businesses. Why bother working for a mom & pop shop when big business will pay you much more?

It would create a lot of pressure on small businesses to pay that much anyway, even if they are not required to, for the reasons you state. Including or not including them doesn't seem like it makes a massive difference in the outcome.

 

[Liquid]

Gerry mother****ing Connolly not hesitating to call out the absolutely worthless sack of **** Jim Jordan.

It's embarrassing how correct he is.

 

[UKMikey]

Gerry mother****ing Connolly not hesitating to call out the absolutely worthless sack of **** Jim Jordan.

Needs a reaction shot.

 

[TexRex]

Needs a reaction shot.

 

[Populuxe]

It would create a lot of pressure on small businesses to pay that much anyway, even if they are not required to, for the reasons you state. Including or not including them doesn't seem like it makes a massive difference in the outcome.

If the minimum wage had simply kept pace with inflation, it would be $24/hr today. So raising it to $15/hr over five years is hardly onerous on small businesses. Time and again, whenever the minimum wage is increased, spending goes up which means jobs increase. The fact is, if you can’t afford to pay your employees $15/hr, then you have a failing business.

 

[Danoff]

If the minimum wage had simply kept pace with inflation, it would be $24/hr today. So raising it to $15/hr over five years is hardly onerous on small businesses. Time and again, whenever the minimum wage is increased, spending goes up which means jobs increase. The fact is, if you can’t afford to pay your employees $15/hr, then you have a failing business.

Taken to the minimum wage thread.

 

[Keef]

Josh Hawley backs the $15-minimum wage under the condition small businesses are exempt from it.

https://www.newsweek.com/josh-hawley-backs-15-minimum-wage-one-condition-1571530

This sounds to me, like it would have the complete opposite effect of saving small businesses. Why bother working for a mom & pop shop when big business will pay you much more?

Small businesses don't hand out lobby money. Republicans are the party of corporations, they want to destroy small businesses to help centralize their corporatist power.

This is the definition of Republican and especially religious conservative narratives. Create a problem out of thin air and then use the negative results to tell everyone I told you so. It's the most idiotic circular logic you can come up with but their constituents are brainwashed to believe it.

 

[Danoff]

I agree with the sentiment in this article:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/24/politics/liz-cheney-republican-party-white-supremacist/index.html

The GOP has a major brand issue, which is splitting the party into two unequal chunks.

 

[FuriousDemon]

I would say nothing Grand about this party anymore (if there ever was).

 

[Biggles]

Lady Gaga's dog walker shot, two of her French bulldogs stolen. Gaga offers $1/2 million reward for return "no questions asked".

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/25/entertainment/lady-gaga-dogs-stolen/index.html

Wait ... isn't this "giving in to the terrorists"? Would lead to a rash of celebrity dognappings?

 

[MatskiMonk]

Well, she might not ask any questions but surely the guy who got shot can still expect the police to pursue any leads?

 

[UKMikey]

Well, she might not ask any questions but surely the guy who got shot can still expect the police to pursue any leads?

Surely he must have a ruff description of the person who did it.

 

[Keef]

Damn it Biden, you caused my Aztec rental to go up by $20 per hour! Biden is killing general aviation! Worst president ever! Make Aviation Great Again!

 

[MatskiMonk]

Surely he must have a ruff description of the person who did it.

Hopefully, otherwise the police could end up just barking up the wrong tree.

Man that was a Shih Tzu pun,

 

[TexRex]

 

[McLaren]

Mitch is a thing that rhymes with Mitch.

 

[Blitz24]

Mitch is a thing that rhymes with Mitch.

Rich?

 

[TexRex]

Rich?

I was thinking a rhyming word with only one changed letter. Specifically a derogatory term for an individual who is beholden to another, even grotesquely so.

 

[Keef]

I was thinking a rhyming word with only one changed letter. Specifically a derogatory term for an individual who is beholden to another, even grotesquely so.

Snitch!

 

[Dotini]

Stop it. I've been watching too much Chicago PD.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

He's an annoying itch for sure.

 

[Populuxe]

Moscow Mitch Lickspittle. Okay, so that has nothing to do with our little Mitch name game, but it’s definitely accurate.

 

[TexRex]

It'd be generous to say that this is what you do to fill the space left by canceling Young Pharaoh, but I think everyone knows this was in there from the beginning.



****ing pathetic.

 

[TexRex]

Fun Fact: Ravnsborg was one of the ****-eating signatories of an amicus brief to support a lawsuit blocking Pennsylvania's election results filed two months after the accident.

Law and order.

 

[Keef]

I saw that the other day. Inexcusable. The man's face literally went through the right corner of his windshield which means his headlights were shining right on a person when they collided.

But they didn't charge him with manslaughter. Maybe they will now. Why has it taken so long for this evidence to be brought to light?

 

[UKMikey]

I didn't know deer wore glasses.

https://www.businessinsider.com/south-dakota-attorney-general-impeachment-hit-and-run-glasses-2021-2