America - The Official Thread
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Irony: Just two weeks ago Senate GOPs were demanding justification for the security around the capitol.
The Capitol Police never once held a press briefing about the January 6 Insurrection, but they’re holding plenty of them for this.
Sounds like one officer and the suspect have died. Speaker Pelosi has ordered flags flown at half-staff for the slain officer.
i was expecting the suspect’s vehicle to be a big American pickup covered in Trump and MAGA slogans (can you blame me?) but it looks like just a nondescript black sedan.
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"ANTEEFA!!!"
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See what we have here is, a failure to communicate. It's not MLB, Delta, Coca-Cola, etc that are undermining election integrity, it's YOU Mr. Duncan and your cohorts, or should I call them co-conspirators, that are undermining our election integrity. The previous laws that you and your ilk put in place previously were just fine until you got defeated by them now you guys figure you've got to do something about that. "If people won't vote for us then we can't let them vote at all".
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So... straight up political corruption. You don't like our legislation? How about we attack you specifically for saying so. And he has the audacity to take that corruption and state it explicitly publicly. I guess really it's even worse than that. He's threatening to attack them in an attempt to elicit compliant speech. This is black propaganda.
This is America?
(as an aside, yea, MBL antitrust exceptions probably don't make sense... but that's a different topic)
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"MY HANDS ARE TIED!!! THE BILLIONS SHIFT FROM SIDE TO SIDE!!! AND THE WARS GO ON WITH BRAINWASHED PRIDE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND OUR HUMAN RIGHTS!!!"
Sorry.
Aaaaand now it's stuck in my head.
"Look at the hate we're breeding. Look at the fear we're feeding. Look at the lives we're leading, the way we've always done before."
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Personally, I find it hard to believe anyone who worked for Gross Gaetz has any principles. I mean, Gaetz is the type of creepy little boy who needs you to know he’s having sex with girls (see stories of him sharing pics with colleagues of women with whom he’s had sex), so it seems very likely his behavior was well known amongst his staff. That didn’t cause them to quit out of principle. Only when it turned out one of those girls might be underage and Gaetz may well go to jail did even one of them find some principles to stand on.
Joey D
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That's what Lando Calrissian said.
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at Georgia getting bent out of shape that their major contributors to the economy are speaking out. Go on, continue to attack them and watch a company like Delta proceed to...uhhh..fly away. There are a ton of cities that would be happy to have them make their home elsewhere.
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I want to laugh at the dumpster fire the GOP is right now but I so loathe the ****ers for what they've done to my country.
I do find comfort in the suspicion that they've completely lost favor with moderates, if not for the transparently disingenuous "election integrity" rhetoric surrounding their suppression bills, for their retaliatory ******** directed at corporate critics.
But really, how stupid do you have to be to genuinely believe these election regulations are anything but intended to penalize major population centers known to skew Democrat? I know the base is in lock step with the Big Lie, but as stupid as I'm certain they are, I don't think they actually believe it.
Let the garbage burn.
I do find comfort in the suspicion that they've completely lost favor with moderates, if not for the transparently disingenuous "election integrity" rhetoric surrounding their suppression bills, for their retaliatory ******** directed at corporate critics.
But really, how stupid do you have to be to genuinely believe these election regulations are anything but intended to penalize major population centers known to skew Democrat? I know the base is in lock step with the Big Lie, but as stupid as I'm certain they are, I don't think they actually believe it.
Let the garbage burn.
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I think this demonstrates why it's so important to the political process to have participants who can be good losers.
The whole point of democracy is to represent the will of the people, which will inevitably change over time. If the population in general is skewing towards one political ideology then the correct thing is to let that happen, not to fight it tooth and nail. You might think that it's wrong, but going against the majority because you know better is exactly the problem with fascists, dictators and kings. The majority might even actually be wrong, but in the long term it's much less damaging to the country to allow it to find that out and correct on it's own via democratic processes than it is to install an authoritarian regime to tell people how they should think.
The whole point of democracy is to represent the will of the people, which will inevitably change over time. If the population in general is skewing towards one political ideology then the correct thing is to let that happen, not to fight it tooth and nail. You might think that it's wrong, but going against the majority because you know better is exactly the problem with fascists, dictators and kings. The majority might even actually be wrong, but in the long term it's much less damaging to the country to allow it to find that out and correct on it's own via democratic processes than it is to install an authoritarian regime to tell people how they should think.
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Well said @Imari and probably the most sensible post I’ve read here in a long time.
My great grandfather x4 was Francis Evans Cornish, a Canadian politician often known to be a brash, rude womanizing drunk, but also extreme intelligent.
My grandmother and her sister would speak of him and the family stories were fascinating when I was younger. Wiki and some historians are not quite correct He was a liberal but would often run on conservative tickets then split the vote to secure liberal wins.
It’s easy to fantasize when you’re young, oooh my grandpa was the first mayor of wherever but being older now it’s easy to see he wasn’t so noble.
So many politicians on both sides are self serving to their own beliefs they forget they are placed there by the people, to serve the majorities will.
I did a few tours in Iraq and for decades voted Republican but this whole Trump storm has me and many close veteran friends thinking a bit differently.
You have to allow the will of the majority to prevail or democracy ends.
My great grandfather x4 was Francis Evans Cornish, a Canadian politician often known to be a brash, rude womanizing drunk, but also extreme intelligent.
My grandmother and her sister would speak of him and the family stories were fascinating when I was younger. Wiki and some historians are not quite correct He was a liberal but would often run on conservative tickets then split the vote to secure liberal wins.
It’s easy to fantasize when you’re young, oooh my grandpa was the first mayor of wherever but being older now it’s easy to see he wasn’t so noble.
So many politicians on both sides are self serving to their own beliefs they forget they are placed there by the people, to serve the majorities will.
I did a few tours in Iraq and for decades voted Republican but this whole Trump storm has me and many close veteran friends thinking a bit differently.
You have to allow the will of the majority to prevail or democracy ends.
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What facts have come out at all for there to be more and more of them? Other than all the ones that show the election was as free and uncorrupt as any in the modern era save for a few examples of Republican voters attempting fraud, obviously.
Also, that Hunter Biden laptop thing is coming any day now.
Also, that Hunter Biden laptop thing is coming any day now.
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McLaren
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Literal definition of a narcissist. Can not participate in a conversation without bringing up election fraud against him.Speaking of former guy, he had a special message on the eve of the eve of Easter Sunday and it's precisely as pathetic as you'd imagine.
"Other than that, Happy Easter!"
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It's fascinating that he's still trying. I mean, let's say he somehow finds some legal loophole by which Biden is thrown out and he is made President. He will find himself President of a country in a full-on civil war, a country in which everyone is armed and probably half the people don't trust the police at all. The Capitol insurrection and the George Floyd riots will be a children's birthday party compared to the rage over ousting a legitimately elected and confirmed President.
I'd say he's playing the long game and just keeping his base stoked up but I don't think he's that smart. I think he really believes this 🤬. Probably helped by the fact that with so many flunkies blowing smoke up your butt it must be hard to see what actual reality looks like.
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Wait Merck? Like the drug company Merck? You're going to straight-up not have a good time if you're boycotting Merck since they're responsible for more drugs than any other pharmaceutical company. Also Cisco? I hope those people boycotting them don't access a network at any point throughout the day or use the Internet.
