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The fact that they put that on television tells you all you need to know about the level of good faith Trump went into it with. Vance really thought he cooked with some of those zingers he tried to ambush Zelensky with, too.
"All right. I think we’ve seen enough. What do you think, huh? This is going to be great television. I will say that. All right. We’ll see what we can do about putting it together. Thank you."

I believe those were the words Trump finished that public spectacle with... he's right in one sense, those 5 minutes will go down in history.
 
The fact that they put that on television tells you all you need to know about the level of good faith Trump went into it with.
100% it was all premeditated to give Trump an excuse to fully cut funding to Ukarine and get out of NATO. He'll soon be saying that Zelensky isn't being cooperative and Ukraine doesn't want peace or whatever.

It was all done for a reason.
 
AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA That was brilliant.

Zelensky is truly a man who writes the history - he's the second person after Monica Lewinsky to be ****ed so hard in the Oval Office.

Thanks for the show. :D
Please kindly return to the hovel you've been in for the past year or so.

You can find it here.
 
I guess the French really shouldn't have helped the Americans during the American War of Independence. France provided crucial assistance to the American colonists by supplying them with money, weapons, troops, and naval support, which played a significant role in their victory against the British, particularly through their official alliance with the Americans after the Battle of Saratoga, effectively tipping the balance of power in the war.
 
100% it was all premeditated to give Trump an excuse to fully cut funding to Ukarine and get out of NATO. He'll soon be saying that Zelensky isn't being cooperative and Ukraine doesn't want peace or whatever.

It was all done for a reason.
The POS has already started down that road.

 
The POS has already started down that road.

here we go batman GIF



Forget Europe abandoning the US. I think the entire world needs to. Just leave them in their own little bubble.
 
I guess the French really shouldn't have helped the Americans during the American War of Independence. France provided crucial assistance to the American colonists by supplying them with money, weapons, troops, and naval support, which played a significant role in their victory against the British, particularly through their official alliance with the Americans after the Battle of Saratoga, effectively tipping the balance of power in the war.
I guess the signs were there when America never paid the French back in and they entered in even worse financial debt that help lead to the bloodshed revolution.

Maybe thats what Trump is afraid of (though thats giving him way too much credit as a student of history when he's pulling the same mistake the UK did when Hitler wanted to invade Czechslovakia :lol:)
 
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“the man” only stood his ground and then had to deal with an idiot about attire. SIT DOWN!

As soon as Trumpf(who thinks he’s at Caesar’s Palace playing cards) started raising his voice I knew it was over. Especially when Vance opened his trap.
 
here we go batman GIF



Forget Europe abandoning the US. I think the entire world needs to. Just leave them in their own little bubble.

But if the rest of the world cut the US out, sure the US would struggle for awhile until they figure out how to produce everything in-country that they need to survive alone, but at that point they'll have a self-sufficient country that doesn't need trade with anyone else, which fits Trump's whole "Make America Great Again" protectionism agenda.

Do we really want that?
 
I find it hard to process this whole thing. I couldn't even watch the whole clip because it just makes me cringe so badly. From the bits that I've seen, It just doesn't compute. Even since this sorry excuse of a human being and waste of oxygen has been in power, the s***storms have been nonstop and its only being a month and a few days and now we have this! Maybe I'm exaggerating but he was talking (or in this case shouting) about Zelensky being the cause for WW3, but I think trump might just move the needle a bit to get us there a lot quicker with this move.

But if the rest of the world cut the US out, sure the US would struggle for awhile until they figure out how to produce everything in-country that they need to survive alone, but at that point they'll have a self-sufficient country that doesn't need trade with anyone else, which fits Trump's whole "Make America Great Again" protectionism agenda.

Do we really want that?

Based on what trump said, they don't really need anyone one else anyway. They could and probably will produce anything they need. Seeing how things are unfolding, I'm betting that he's probably thinking if they need some finite resources that they don't have in the US, they can just go to war with another country to get it. So them being self sufficient is to be expected because they've been there before. I think the bigger issue is the influence and the impact of those massive Americans corporations that basically have a hand in just about everything in people's lives and the fact that so many infrastructure from many different countries are relying on them to function.
 
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But if the rest of the world cut the US out, sure the US would struggle for awhile until they figure out how to produce everything in-country that they need to survive alone, but at that point they'll have a self-sufficient country that doesn't need trade with anyone else, which fits Trump's whole "Make America Great Again" protectionism agenda.

Do we really want that?
Thing is it would take far longer than MAGA has to actually get everything back to a level of comfort with the US isolated. Because this is the USA, we aren't content with merely surviving, nor do we grasp the concept of going without.
 
I'm so, so glad that I never worked for the US department of state nor went down a diplomatic career path. Those poor people must be mortified.
 
But if the rest of the world cut the US out, sure the US would struggle for awhile until they figure out how to produce everything in-country that they need to survive alone, but at that point they'll have a self-sufficient country that doesn't need trade with anyone else, which fits Trump's whole "Make America Great Again" protectionism agenda.

Do we really want that?
It would take forever for us to become that sort of self-sufficient & even then, there are resources we rely on that are not in the US.

I think part of what made Canada become our biggest trader is b/c of oil & steel minerals, but I can't say for 100% certain.
 
I'm hoping this revs up other nations to strengthen in unity. Especially tightening boot straps in their own countries to strengthen their people. This madness is happening in real time.
This is what I’m saying.
 
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The Rolls-Royce of a ”sliding door-moment”: What if he would have aimed a couple of inches to the right (or just even 0.957 inches)… Those missing inches might have more impact on the future world than anything else during the last 80 years.
 
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AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA That was brilliant.

Zelensky is truly a man who writes the history - he's the second person after Monica Lewinsky to be ****ed so hard in the Oval Office.

Thanks for the show. :D
Trump and Vance made a complete embarrassment of themselves. And now you've come to join them. Why?
 
Who knew that less than 2 months into the new administration, 47 and his lapdog would defile the Oval Office with the most unedifying spectacle it has surely ever seen... and they have the sheer audacity to say that the person they invited was being disrespectful?? Absolutely disgusting.
 
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Maybe I'm exaggerating but he was talking (or in this case shouting) about Zelensky being the cause for WW3, but I think trump might just move the needle a bit to get us there a lot quicker with this move.
Nah, I think you are right. US is not only giving Russia who have been killing tens of thousands of people, including women and children for three years for some extra turf a free pass for their actions but actually rewards them with recognition and business deals.

What message does this send to China who desperately want Taiwan back? Now with Trumps presidency they have the perfect time window of 4 years to take action without having to fear for any major repercussions from one of their biggest customers. Xi and Putin are both old, now is the time for them to strike. So much for Ukraine causing WWIII lol.

Initially I was not the biggest critic of Trump, I still think he is doing some stuff that was desperately needed in the US but holy smokes, his foreign politics is an absolute freak show. I don't think he has any ideas what his actions are causing beyond his goals of making business deals and getting a profit.

I think the long term effects of this kind of politics down the road is a loooot of people killed in wars over profit.
 
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