America - The Official Thread

[TexRex]

Ah. Doing this again?



The public paying for tariffs at the store and for tariff relief to farmers. Coming and going.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

Especially the bit in which a significant minority of people voted to not be part of it.Thank you. This is around equal with "peak my interest" in mildly irritating spelling errors for me. I don't care about apostrophes or commas as much, just idioms that make sense.A pound of something, maybe.Yup. That's the one.

cough

I could care less...

(this may or may not be intended as a wind up)

 

[UKMikey]

cough

I could care less...

(this may or may not be intended as a wind up)

Maybe, but I couldn't.

 

[Danoff]

Why are we white washing an already white washed history of our country?

 

[Liquid]

Why are we white washing an already white washed history of our country?

Insecurity.

 

[McLaren]

Grandpa has dementia. Time to get rid of him like Biden, right?

President Donald Trump downplayed his involvement in invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport Venezuelan migrants, saying for the first time that he hadn’t signed the proclamation, but that he stood by his administration’s move. The proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act appears in the Federal Register with Trump’s signature at the bottom.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/21/politics/video/trump-involvement-deportation-flights-alien-enemies-act-signature-collins-src-digvid

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-03-20/pdf/2025-04865.pdf

 

[Imari]

Why are we white washing an already white washed history of our country?

It's traditional. Just like aluminum bats and the 7th inning grope.

 

[eran0004]

Donald Trump suggests US could join British Commonwealth

"I Love King Charles," the president said in a Truth Social post.

www.newsweek.com

Did anyone check the fine print on the MAGA hats? "Make America Great Britain Again"

 

[Com Fox]

Why are we white washing an already white washed history of our country?

Why do the already filthy rich insist on taking more money from others who need it and become more richer?

The satisfaction is the "gains" and taking away, not the end goal.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

Grandpa has dementia. Time to get rid of him like Biden, right?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/21/politics/video/trump-involvement-deportation-flights-alien-enemies-act-signature-collins-src-digvid

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-03-20/pdf/2025-04865.pdf

Hopefully he continues to deny it, at which point it'd have to come out that one of his staff signed it for him with Autopen...

 

[McLaren]

Hopefully he continues to deny it, at which point it'd have to come out that one of his staff signed it for him with Autopen...

I'll have to see about finding it again, but one article covering him denying it, has him additionally throwing Marco Rubio's name out there about all the great work he's done.

The man went through people like a child on Halloween with candy. I think we're approaching the point people start getting thrown under the bus since he's speed running everything else into the trash.

 

[GranTurNismo]

Bernie Sanders, along with AOC, threw his largest rally ever yesterday in Denver. 34,000 attendees came as part of his nationwide “Fighting Oligarchy” tour.

Bernie Sanders, AOC rally crowd of 30,000 in Denver’s Civic Center

“We will not allow America to become an oligarchy,” Vermont senator says.

www.denverpost.com

 

[dylansan]

Schumer's gamble doesn't seem to have paid off, at least in terms of messaging.

A decent dip in approval among all voters:

And then there's among Democrats:

I also just found out he told Bret Stephens in a recent interview, "My job is to keep the left pro-Israel."

I don't think that's related to his polling, but I wanted to share because it baffled me.

 

[GBO Possum]

Hello car people, if you want to understand why America has massive (47.5%?) tariffs on China, you only have to watch this video.

Spoiler, it's about a Chinese supercar which sells for less than USD$73,000 in China. So it's worth watching even if you don't care about tariffs! Highly recommended viewing.

And it's made by what is essentially a mobile phone company which only announced its intention to enter the car market in March 2021, started EV deliveries in March 2024 and now it's March 2025 and they are shipping this 4 door car, a version of which lapped the 'Ring in 6:40 or thereabouts.

 

[Danoff]

Schumer's gamble doesn't seem to have paid off, at least in terms of messaging.

I don't think he was gambling for political approval.

I also just found out he told Bret Stephens in a recent interview, "My job is to keep the left pro-Israel."

But he also warned that “the greatest danger to Israel, long-term, is if you lose half of America” — the liberal half. On one of Netanyahu’s previous visits to the United States, Schumer told me he urged the prime minister to “go on Rachel Maddow and not just Sean Hannity.” Netanyahu ignored the advice, and Schumer, in a Senate speech, later called for new elections to replace him, for which he remains “fiercely proud.” It showed Democrats, he said, that it’s possible to oppose Netanyahu while championing the Jewish state.

“My job,” he told me, “is to keep the left pro-Israel."

It's important not to remove context from a quote. I'm not saying that this cures your issues with the quote, but it absolutely changes the way it comes across when shared in isolation.

It's tone-deaf for sure. I think you can criticize it even in context. But out of context it comes of pro-Netanyahu, and in-context it comes off closer to the opposite.

 

[Meythia]

USD$73,000 in China

+ "couldnt get supercars for less than x"
= well, it was simply the fact some people could and would afford to pay that much for no other reason as to own it.
The pricetag of a car is definitly not related to RnD, workforce payment, or material cost, but simply the answer to "how many do we want to sell".

 

[Danoff]

Person who called 911 for deceased former US attorney ‘refused’ to perform CPR

The U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia suffered from a long-term condition, revealed a source

www.independent.co.uk

Ok so I've not wanted to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon too fast on this one. But why would a caller refuse CPR if not for some concern about harming themselves? That is very fishy.

The conspiracy theory is that this is a Russia-backed assassination.

 

[Meythia]

But why would a caller refuse CPR if not for some concern about harming themselves?

Propably because being afraid of breaking bones and the aftermath if the victim survives.

 

[Danoff]

Propably because being afraid of breaking bones and the aftermath if the victim survives.

On a 40-year-old woman? That seems doubtful to me.

 

[Famine]

There has never been a successful prosecution for injuries sustained during CPR in the UK; I'm not even sure there's ever been one that's made it that far. I'd find it hard to believe that there's ever been one even in the notoriously litigious USA.

Places with bystander laws like China, sure.

 

[Danoff]

Virginia has good samaritan protection laws (and there is a federal law as well). Someone ignorant of the law might worry about bone breakage for an elderly frail person, I could see that. This woman was relatively young.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

On a 40-year-old woman? That seems doubtful to me.

Anxiety is the first thing that comes to mind. We live in a world where horror stories (which are often gossip based with no factual merit) are spread across the globe in hours.

If you say CPR, first thing that comes to mind is "what if I do it wrong?" and "what if I break their ribs?", and countless medical dramas like House and ER have shown that broken ribs can pierce lungs, and if lungs fill with blood the person drowns to death... And if you've heard a tale from a friend of a friend, it can further cement the idea that you'll get it wrong, and if you get it wrong you'll be charged or sued or worse...

Not everyone reacts well under pressure. Some people can't react well under pressure and so will say or do anything to get away from that pressure.

 

[Danoff]

Anxiety is the first thing that comes to mind. We live in a world where horror stories (which are often gossip based with no factual merit) are spread across the globe in hours.

If you say CPR, first thing that comes to mind is "what if I do it wrong?" and "what if I break their ribs?", and countless medical dramas like House and ER have shown that broken ribs can pierce lungs, and if lungs fill with blood the person drowns to death... And if you've heard a tale from a friend of a friend, it can further cement the idea that you'll get it wrong, and if you get it wrong you'll be charged or sued or worse...

Not everyone reacts well under pressure. Some people can't react well under pressure and so will say or do anything to get away from that pressure.

That sounds like how one might view it from outside of the situation. When someone is in distress and you're on the phone with a 911 operator telling you to perform CPR and walking you through it? I think most people have a deep urge to help someone in trouble. It is baked into DNA by millions of years of evolution.

 

[dylansan]

I don't think he was gambling for political approval.

I don't think he was gambling for his own personal approval. But I think he thought a shutdown was the worse option both because of practical concerns and because it could hurt party approval. I don't think he expected so much of his base to feel betrayed or frustrated by that decision.

It's important not to remove context from a quote. I'm not saying that this cures your issues with the quote, but it absolutely changes the way it comes across when shared in isolation.

It's tone-deaf for sure. I think you can criticize it even in context. But out of context it comes of pro-Netanyahu, and in-context it comes off closer to the opposite.

Thank you for the added context. I didn't have access to the original article. And thank you for the explicit permission to criticise a Democrat.

I think it's more than tone deaf, it's just false. His Job as a US Senator is not to manipulate or otherwise influence Americans' opinions about a foreign country. He's a representative. When a majority of Americans, and 77% of Democrats (and a plurality of New Yorkers) (and even 62% of Jewish voters!) thought the US should stop sending weapons shipments to Israel, his job was to represent his constituents. Not convince them to like Israel. Nor to convince Israel to be more likeable.

I don't want to get too in the weeds on Israel here, but that statement, combined with his strategy of compliance despite two-thirds of Dems wanting the party to stick to its convictions at the cost of bipartisanship, and now his rejection of calls to step aside—at best it appears he would rather be a leader than a representative. Refusing to step aside also doesn't seem much like taking one for the team, or "diving on the hand grenade," as it were.

Schumer may have reasons for his decisions. But why are they his decisions to make? Yes, he's the Senate minority leader. But why was he chosen if not to represent Americans? He may even be competent at leadership (at least behind the scenes), but competence means nothing if your aim is wrong.

Surprisingly we both seem to be a bit on the fence as far as the shutdown decision goes. It's just, whether he had reasons or not, if he's going to regularly go against the wishes of his base, he needs to have damn good reasons.

 

[Danoff]

I don't think he was gambling for his own personal approval. But I think he thought a shutdown was the worse option both because of practical concerns and because it could hurt party approval.

I'm actually not sure it was really political so much as it was defense against takeover.

I don't think he expected so much of his base to feel betrayed or frustrated by that decision.

Thank you for the added context. I didn't have access to the original article. And thank you for the explicit permission to criticise a Democrat.

I think it's more than tone deaf, it's just false. His Job as a US Senator is not to manipulate or otherwise influence Americans' opinions about a foreign country. He's a representative. When a majority of Americans, and 77% of Democrats (and a plurality of New Yorkers) (and even 62% of Jewish voters!) thought the US should stop sending weapons shipments to Israel, his job was to represent his constituents. Not convince them to like Israel. Nor to convince Israel to be more likeable.

I don't want to get too in the weeds on Israel here, but that statement, combined with his strategy of compliance despite two-thirds of Dems wanting the party to stick to its convictions at the cost of bipartisanship, and now his rejection of calls to step aside—at best it appears he would rather be a leader than a representative. Refusing to step aside also doesn't seem much like taking one for the team, or "diving on the hand grenade," as it were.

Schumer may have reasons for his decisions. But why are they his decisions to make? Yes, he's the Senate minority leader. But why was he chosen if not to represent Americans? He may even be competent at leadership (at least behind the scenes), but competence means nothing if your aim is wrong.

Surprisingly we both seem to be a bit on the fence as far as the shutdown decision goes. It's just, whether he had reasons or not, if he's going to regularly go against the wishes of his base, he needs to have damn good reasons.

I agree.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

I think most people have a deep urge to help someone in trouble.

Most, but not all, and everyone is different.

We can throw around speculation and conjecture, but we'll never actually know why the person didn't perform CPR unless they sit down and tell us.

 

[UKMikey]

Surprisingly we both seem to be a bit on the fence as far as the shutdown decision goes. It's just, whether he had reasons or not, if he's going to regularly go against the wishes of his base, he needs to have damn good reasons.

And should make those reasons explicit.

I think most people have a deep urge to help someone in trouble. It is baked into DNA by millions of years of evolution.

'Bout time I gave my nephew another shoutout.

 

[kjb]

Why are we white washing an already white washed history of our country?

It wasn't clean enough so they have run it through the wash at least one more time . It was like I was on X the yesterday and some lady posted how in the 70s & 80s there was no racism. Everyone was colorblind. I am not sure what bubble she lived in but I am pretty sure there was racism in that time. I was living in Queens during that time period and I can remember quite a few incidents during that time. One that was very close to me was the one that occurred in Howard Beach. One of my really good friends in 9th grade said that they didn't do anything wrong. That hurt a lot. If I back further I can remember get threatened about being in the wrong number because our bus did come to take us home. If go back further my parents were among the 1st black people to move in the neighborhood where i grew up.They got the house in 1970 and by the time I was about 6 or 7 which would be the late 70s all of the white folks that leaved in the neighorhood were gone. In fact I didn't know that white folks leaved in my neighborhood until I was like 13. Just finish this off a couple posters blamed Obama for racism. Because of course he supported BLM and Travyon Martin etc... so it's all his fault and not the racist fault. Sounds about right to me. I had a lot of issues with Obama but bringing back racism I don't agree with.

 

[FPV MIC]

USA, your government is totally screwed... and that's about as nice as I can put it.

Trump's secret war plans revealed as journalist added to text chat

Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor in chief of The Atlantic, made the jaw-dropping revelation that President Donald Trump's national security team added him to a top secret chat on Yemen strikes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Blitz24]

USA, your government is totally screwed... and that's about as nice as I can put it.

Trump's secret war plans revealed as journalist added to text chat

Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor in chief of The Atlantic, made the jaw-dropping revelation that President Donald Trump's national security team added him to a top secret chat on Yemen strikes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Ah, was the journalist given security clearance? Probably not. Will anyone in the legislative branch do anything about it? Definitely not.