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Republican governance in a nutshell:
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The LBC viewpoint. Language warning.
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Forty bucks to get your identity stolen when UPS randomly leaves your birth certificate at the door with not even a knock.
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Fixing elections as in they were broken, or fixing elections as in ensuring the outcome?
Trump definitely seems like the kind of guy who is all about election integrity. He has taken no actions in the past that would suggest anything but the utmost respect for democracy and the rule of law.
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Goldberg has released more messages. Will be interesting to see if this changes anything, since I believe Tulsi Gabbard made the claim that none of the messages were classified information (although, I think she also refused to share/release anything about them & was pressed that she can't have it both ways).
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Jeffrey Goldberg releases more Trump Admin Signal messages
Goldberg is publishing text messages he had previously withheld.
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They are trying to duck and weave. Or they will manufacture an actual disaster so the collective audience forgets.Goldberg has released more messages. Will be interesting to see if this changes anything, since I believe Tulsi Gabbard made the claim that none of the messages were classified information (although, I think she also refused to share/release anything about them & was pressed that she can't have it both ways).
Jeffrey Goldberg releases more Trump Admin Signal messages
Goldberg is publishing text messages he had previously withheld.
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I think someone at least takes the fall. Too many people in the military recognize this isn't something you'd just get discharged for; they've all noted there are normally serious consequences involved for anyone enlisted caught doing this, and these people shouldn't get to walk away with barely a slap on the wrist.
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This is Tom Clancy Clear and Present Danger stuff. I mean we all knew stuff goes down, but like the body cam, the texts are filling in those details. Such a shame these dudes added the emojis. Like school in the summer time, no class.
I hope like many all involved go down, but I’m guess the real get out of jail papers are in their office safes.
I hope like many all involved go down, but I’m guess the real get out of jail papers are in their office safes.
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"The statements by Hegseth, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, and Trump—combined with the assertions made by numerous administration officials that we are lying about the content of the Signal texts—have led us to believe that people should see the texts in order to reach their own conclusions. There is a clear public interest in disclosing the sort of information that Trump advisers included in nonsecure communications channels, especially because senior administration figures are attempting to downplay the significance of the messages that were shared."
Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor of the Atlantic
While they do appear to be releasing the full text exchange, The Atlantic has a paywall/subscription required to read it.
Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor of the Atlantic
While they do appear to be releasing the full text exchange, The Atlantic has a paywall/subscription required to read it.
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This should be a bypass link someone provided on Reddit.
Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump’s Advisers Shared on Signal
The administration has downplayed the importance of the text messages inadvertently sent to The Atlantic’s editor in chief.
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If only...
Personally I don't think anything will come of it. Trump's methodology seems to be that of a playground clique - if what you did opposes Trump, you're out. If what you did doesn't oppose Trump and you're one of his people aka "loyal", you're okay.
Just praise Trump daily, don't do anything that makes him look dumb, don't stare at his comb-over, don't put anything orange near him that may cause comparisons between his skin tone and the orange item, and you're set for life or until he needs someone to take the fall for him.
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Only the DOJ has jurisdiction to indict in this matter. A less partisan Congress could coerce DOJ to investigate, but ultimately it's DOJ's discretion to bring an indictment. It's a crony state so yeah nobody reasonably responsible is likely to face criminal penalty, and in the event of indictment and conviction, Trump could simply pardon. Congress could remove, absent criminal penalty, but yeah it's still cronies all the way down so it's likely not coming to that either.
It's much more likely Goldberg gets indicted, and given the partisan--and vindictive--nature of the executive, I'd be very surprised if he isn't.
Ken certainly isn't without his biases but he's got a keen observational sense of these things, especially with relevant expertise as a former federal prosecutor.
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That would be ****** beyond all doubt. They brought Goldberg into that text chain & he did the right thing alerting officials. Half of the participants questioned are already going, "Nothing was classified, it's not a big deal, we'll make sure it doesn't happen again", so clearly releasing the texts have been shown to be harmless by their own admission.
But, these people cry kangaroo court, banana republic, jailed opposition, and we all know Projection is a fundamental basis of GOP....
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Goldberg is the exact thing this administration is try to eliminate, a whistleblower. That's what this whole thing of slashing the federal workforce is designed for. Eliminate any opposition. They're not looking for any financial waste. That's a smokescreen. Get rid of any possible neutrality and down the road rehire with only Trump loyalists that would never say no to the Orange Nightmare.
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25% on all imported cars! This will probably hurt Mazda and Volvo the most as I believe both only have a small footprint in the US. I think Kia and Hyundai also import most of the cars sold here. Porsche is probably not too impacted just because its customers aren't necessarily as impacted by a 25% increase.
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Another James O'Brien video with international calls included.
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Edit: Embedded media post isn't showing for some reason (not deleted and no viewing restrictions that I can identify) so here's a screenshot in case it isn't something on my end.
Just to add, the reason this keeps happening and is likely to continue happening through a SCOTUS decision (pretty sure there's an en banc DC Circuit Court decision left before it heads to the Supreme Court) unless an activist majority anoints the executive with powers not provided for by statute* is this isn't by some novel reading of the Alien and Sedition Acts, rather because the action taken has been without regard for the explicit text of the Alien Enemies Act, which requires that those subject to deportation be of enemy nations during a time of war, as well as the circumstances of the statute's earlier uses.
*I'm far from an expert, but I'm calling a reserved 7-2 at SCOTUS with Alito drafting an apoplectic dissent and Thomas joining. I'm not entirely sure why but I actually think Thomas could join the majority or draft a concurrence with gestures intended to appease the rabid base, hence my reservation. I honestly don't see Roberts, Barrett and Kavanaugh giving Trump this one, and Gorsuch is a rat that could but I don't see that happening either.
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