Americanisms

[BobK]

A "hoagie" is what some of the northeastern U.S. calls a submarine sandwich.

A little north of "hoagie" territory they called them "hero sandwiches".

But that's a regionalism rather than an Americanism as such.

Of course we could get into the whole milk shake/frappe/cabinet thing if we do regional stuff.

 

[Pyle_PMG]

"hero sandwiches".

But that's a regionalism rather than an Americanism as such.

We use that here too. Its a American-o-Canadianism .

 

[Danoff]

Why is there no good word for this? ^

Submarine sandwich is a crappy name. Hoagie... wth? Hero sandwich? Absurd. It must be renamed.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Why is there no good word for this? ^

Submarine sandwich is a crappy name. Hoagie... wth? Hero sandwich? Absurd. It must be renamed.

How about baguette sandwich

 

[Danoff]

How about baguette sandwich

You know what? I could do that. It's a little.... french. But I could do that.

 

[Pupik]

Yeah, but only if it uses baguette bread. I hear "hoagie" and "sub sandwich" used interchangeably; "grinder" a little less so. I think a lot of it depends on advertising.

Kind of like soda/pop/fizzy-lifting drink, it's a regional term.

(It's okay to use French words for food, it's something they generally perfected.)

 

[Daniel]

Why not shorten it to Sub Sandwich? Or just a Sub?

 

[Jimlaad43]

Why not shorten it to Sub Sandwich? Or just a Sub?

But it don't look like a submarine.

 

[Pyle_PMG]

But it don't look like a submarine.

Its a sandwich on a long bun whose's length is larger than its width.

Therefore, it could be a larlengthsmawidth sandwich.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Or, you could get two slices of bread and put filling in between it.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Why do Americans say 'farther' rather than further?

 

[Pyle_PMG]

Why do Americans say 'farther' rather than further?

Rolls off the toungue better with the southern accent. Y'all get what I'm trying to say?

 

[Omnis]

Why is there no good word for this? ^

Submarine sandwich is a crappy name. Hoagie... wth? Hero sandwich? Absurd. It must be renamed.

It's a hoagie. There is no other better name for it.

 

[Jimlaad43]

It's a hoagie. There is no other better name for it.

There probably is a better name for it, but none of us on here can think of one.

 

[Omnis]

What else do you call a hoagie? Only that. Because its a hoagie!

 

[Jimlaad43]

Here it is a submarine sandwich (Only because the only place to but it is in a Sub*short-for-submarine-sandwich*way).
Or, we use baguettes to make the sandwich.

 

[Jedi2016]

Hero sandwich?

My mind was blown the day I found out it's actually spelled "Gyro".

 

[wfooshee]

No, that's a different sandwich! A hero is a sub sandwich, but a gyro (year-row) is a flat-bread wrap.

 

[LancerEvo7]

Why do Americans say 'farther' rather than further?

I, along with most people I know, say further.

 

[axletramp]

In Jamaica they say 'ferdah'.

 

[Famine]

No, that's a different sandwich! A hero is a sub sandwich, but a gyro (year-row) is a flat-bread wrap.

Incidentally, Adam Richman has taught me that what you call a "gyro" (incidentally, the homophone "giro" is a benefits payment over here) is what we call a "kebab" (specifically a doner kebab - Britain has a shortage of skewers).

Incidentally, the sub/hoagie looks like an oldschool Greyhound bus (flat bottom, domed top, stripe down the middle), so I suggest "Greyhound" as an alternate name. If you object to the concept of eating pets, I'll just remind you what you call a long, thin sausage, usually boiled and served in a specific bun, or dipped in batter and fried on a stick...

 

[rb26x]

Greyhound it is! 👍

 

[W3H5]

Does look like a Greyhound, but it'd be 'Grayhound' on the other side of the pond I'd imagine.

On topic, what's the extra 'ten' on 'gotten'? Is there really a need for it? What's wrong with plain old 'got'?

 

[Roush_fan_99]

Does look like a Greyhound, but it'd be 'Grayhound' on the other side of the pond I'd imagine.

On topic, what's the extra 'ten' on 'gotten'? Is there really a need for it? What's wrong with plain old 'got'?

I think it's just emphasis on past tense

"I had gotten this game yesterday" vs.
"I had got this game yesterday"

Had gotten sounds better than had got in a way

Although you could have "gotten" rid of the had

But I'm pretty sure it's informal to say gotten though

 

[Omnis]

A hoagie is a hinge-cut sandwich with cold cuts. A hero is a hot hoagie (chicken parm, meatball, etc.). You buy both at a sub shop.

But hoagies aren't sandwiches, because sandwiches are made with slices of bread and you get those at delis.

This is a hoagie:

This is also a hoagie... a really long one:

This is a deli sandwich:

Wikipedia is stupid, and this is a sandwich not a hoagie:

See the difference now?


re: Had Gotten
That's how you say it in the hood-- had gotten. If you're going to use got, then had is not necessary. I got a hammer vs. I had got a hammer vs. I had gotten a hammer.

 

[BobK]

There probably is a better name for it, but none of us on here can think of one.

"Hoagie" describes it perfectly, though.

For whatever reason, though, the locals hereabouts call it a "grinder".

I'll stick with hoagie, thank you very much.

 

[Keef]

Submarine sandwich is a crappy name.

I agree Hoagie is stupid. I don't know what a hoagie is. Hero...maybe because anybody who can eat the whole thing must be a hero? And Submarine is the best name of all because it looks like a submarine, how much you simple can you get.

 

[rb26x]

Does look like a Greyhound, but it'd be 'Grayhound' on the other side of the pond I'd imagine...

Grey and gray are more personal preference it seems, as I know people that use both, all here in PA.

How's this for an Americanism, V8's need to be in a car for it to be a "performance" car.

 

[Omnis]

I agree Hoagie is stupid. I don't know what a hoagie is. Hero...maybe because anybody who can eat the whole thing must be a hero? And Submarine is the best name of all because it looks like a submarine, how much you simple can you get.

A hoagie is a hoagie. It can't be anything else... That's the point!

If I said there was a hoagie being lowered into my avatar's mouth, there would be absolutely no mistaking what I meant.

This is the one exception to typical American loaded terminology.

 

[Northstar]

How's this for an Americanism, V8's need to be in a car for it to be a "performance" car.

I see that coming from all over the world, it's no different than saying a car has to be RWD, mid-engined, non-flappy paddle manual, two door, turbocharged etc... to be a performance car.

Just typical automotive ignorance, that is all, nothing to do with nationality.

And since I know what you are referencing exactly, that's just "him" being "him".