Arcade can be ridiculous!

[Paulie]

Did a search on 'arcade' and seen nothing.
Today, with online participation at an all time low, I turned to arcade racing to get my fix. I had been doing Z06 time trials and enjoying myself so I used my Z06 to go racing (stock, no setup changes). When I hit on race, the difficulty came up as 85, far too much for a stock standard Z06, so I turned it down to 80 and tried the race. To my dismay, I was up against your typical Amuses, Tuned Evos and Elises. Well out of the stock Vette's league at Suzuka for all their downforce and engines ranging up to 460kw.
I exited and tried a difficulty of 75. For the most part there was even competition for the Vette now with GTRs, Vipers, 599s and other Vettes, except there was still one Amuse and a number of Tuned Evos and Elises. By lap 2 the Amuse had charged from 15th and overtook me without blinking. Annoyed now, I tried 70 difficulty rating. I didn't even start this race, because the AI was too slow, with the fastest cars being R8s and DB9s, cars my Z06 would make mince meat of. I experimented between 70 and 75 and never came up with an even line-up for my Z06.
The GT Concepts/Tuned cars are essentially race cars, why does the game allow race cars against a stock standard Z06. What happened to GT4 arcade style, where if you entered a race with a road car, no matter the difficulty you selected you'd be against road cars and the same for race cars?
Now with no participation online today, and a poorly devised AI competition I have been left wanting. What do I do?



Note: This is only a problem if you're driving fast cars like the Z06 on sports or road tyres. You could use a slower car and race slow AI, but I had chosen the Z06 to race and was disappointed with my options. I basically wanted to experience the real deal standard Z06 in some racing.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

This problem does still occur with slower cars. I do arcade mode races whenever I'm sick of the online events and I'll usually do races with low powered cars and I'll always find there's at least one car which I or any of the other AI cars have no chance at beating.

 

[Paulie]

This problem does still occur with slower cars. I do arcade mode races whenever I'm sick of the online events and I'll usually do races with low powered cars and I'll always find there's at least one car which I or any of the other AI cars have no chance at beating.

Oh yeah, that's right. I remember one race I was having using the older WRX at Suzuka. I had set to infinite laps because I just wanted to drive. I overtook everyone else pretty quickly and then there was one 111R out front I just couldn't catch. I wasn't losing him either, our times were equal, but unless I had been close enough to slipstream I would never have caught him, I would have raced the infinite laps.

 

[Daniel_Elessar]

indeed, they need to set this right. the AI is just a pain, and the cars are just not right.

 

[AERO_HDT]

I think that their offline "arcade" ranking is pretty much fair.

The way I see it, it ranks equally with the system in GT4. Typically an experienced driver would have an evenly matched field at say.... level 6?

That represents level 60 at GT5P and higher than than, you're up against seriously fast AI competition (which cannot be beaten unless your name is Zabeu)

I think beginner level is rated at about 30, intermediate is rated about 50 and pro at about 70 with ar$e kicking at about 90.

 

[Paulie]

I think that their offline "arcade" ranking is pretty much fair.

The way I see it, it ranks equally with the system in GT4. Typically an experienced driver would have an evenly matched field at say.... level 6?

That represents level 60 at GT5P and higher than than, you're up against seriously fast AI competition (which cannot be beaten unless your name is Zabeu)

I think beginner level is rated at about 30, intermediate is rated about 50 and pro at about 70 with ar$e kicking at about 90.

It's different though. If you selected for example 6 in GT4, all the cars would be that difficulty and you could effectively choose the best difficulty for you. Now, you can choose 75 and half the field you can battle with and beat, the other half might just own you. There's no happy medium where you can get a whole field of cars even to your own.

 

[rexc]

It's different though. If you selected for example 6 in GT4, all the cars would be that difficulty and you could effectively choose the best difficulty for you.

Agreed, I've also found trying to get a good match with the AI irritating.

Often when you are trying out a different car you want to ramp up the AI incrementally to find just the right challenge for it.

But no, increase one notch in the AI, and you go from a field you're well in front of after 2-3 laps, to having an Elise or something miles out in front you haven't got a hope to catch.

Definately one of those little annoyances I really hope somebody at PD has on their list of things to fix for GT5

 

[greenlightning]

Arcade would be a lot better if they would let you choose where to start from in the field. Either have random or qualify. Also ability to set the differnt penalties.

 

[PickleAhoy]

I think the problem isnt the code, but rather the lack of cars the game can match you against. Maybe the AI is set to do a minimum amount of mistakes even on the highest difficulty since we wouldnt be able to run perfectly as humans, and because of that it has to choose faster cars; however, it has no choice but to bring in a tuned one to make up for the mistakes it'll do.

 

[MrDuck1234]

i have placed well with the zo6 at 100 AI. With the help of R3 tiers. Still, the car is very fast. Maybe it is just you.

What tier were you using.

 

[Paulie]

i have placed well with the zo6 at 100 AI. With the help of R3 tiers. Still, the car is very fast. Maybe it is just you.

What tier were you using.

R3 tyres, bah, that's for race cars only (i.e. Tuned cars). I was using S2 tyres, for the realism.

 

[skyway666]

Agreed, I wish there was the option to select a field of same cars as your driving with matching tune or standard etc.

I really like racing the slower cars, and would enjoy a field of mini's etc.

 

[grog]

I agree the AI is lacking. It would be great to see something like the adjustments that were possible in GT4's B-spec mode. Specificly being Able to adjust how hard the AI drives, too the point they spin out (like with B-spec mode).

It seems like the AI adjustments simply pick fast or slow cars accordingly. But what is really needed is to be able to increase the AI's driving ability too.