Argentinian Soccer Player Gets A Red Card for Harming A Dog

[Grayfox]

Being trained to perform tasks and being cognisant are not the same.

But being trained to do the job proves they have the cognitive ability from the start.

Let's not forget dogs that guards airport's customs, police dogs, kettle dogs, home guard dogs, and those cold climate sled dogs Some of the world's most loyal creatures are dogs, not humans.

Do you mean cattle dogs or the dogs that tell you when the kettle is boiling?

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Sorry my bad, cattle dogs or herding dogs

 

[Zenith]

But being trained to do the job proves they have the cognitive ability from the start.

Not at all. You should consider researching cognition as a concept. Dogs certainly do not possess cognition anywhere near that of humans.

Think about what you are saying. You are arguing that a dog, an animal with a brain the size of a small fruit, should be worth the same or more as a human being in the eyes of the law. Try this in public and the police might ask you to take a piss test.

 

[Encyclopedia]

Animal abuse should be punished which I'm glad it was.

I have a real hard time seeing people who abuse animals as anything other than filth.

 

[Crispy]

Wow, testosterone much? I doubt he would have treated this dog in such a way if he had not been in the middle of a game. People make mistakes. Forgive the guy, Jesus H. Christ on a crutch.

You don't repeat a mistake thousands of times. He would have kept on doing it too if he hadn't been caught, in fact if he had no chance of being caught again he would probably be doing it right now. Michael Vick is absolute trash. He should've gotten a much larger sentence than he did, but of course he's a celebrity so...

I think the Cognitive argument isn't that great. A baby has significantly less cognitive ability than a grown human and even many animals, however if someone murders a newborn then they often get a life sentence.

That being said animal abuse needs to carry a good punishment. You're harming something that might not be able to defend itself, or is weaker. However, it still shouldn't carry a penalty equal to of you did the same thing to a human. After all, a dog is not a human. Still, you shouldn't just get away with it either. There needs to be a good balance. Not too extreme, but a punishment.

 

[Schwartz]

You don't repeat a mistake thousands of times. He would have kept on doing it too if he hadn't been caught, in fact if he had no chance of being caught again he would probably be doing it right now.

He didn't repeat it thousands of times. From what I understand, this was a single incident.

That is, unless you're talking about Michael Vick. He did repeat his offenses numerous times and he is complete trash.

 

[Monatsende]

There is other cruelty to dogs happing without being punished.

 

[ZohsixGT5]

So I take it that Zenith is not really a dog person.

 

[Grayfox]

Judging by the way he is saying they deserve little to no rights.

Yes.

There is other cruelty to dogs happing without being punished.

This dog does not look upset at all.

 

[Joel]

Judging by the way he is saying they deserve little to no rights.

Are humans raised and slaughtered for food or furs? How about held in captivity for entertainment? Should dog farmers in Asia be in jail for murder? Should western pig farmers be brought to trial for genocide?

So I take it that Zenith is not really a dog person.

There's quite a difference. Should killing a dog garner the same punishment as murder? The very nature of having a dog as a pet would be a crime against a person.

And before you accuse me of the same thing despite its irrelevance, I'm a "dog person".

 

[Crispy]

He didn't repeat it thousands of times. From what I understand, this was a single incident.

That is, unless you're talking about Michael Vick. He did repeat his offenses numerous times and he is complete trash.

Yeah I was talking about Vick. That wasn't a mistake what he did. It was deliberate.

 

[Zenith]

So I take it that Zenith is not really a dog person.

Judging by the way he is saying they deserve little to no rights.

Yes.

Let's see...

Animals like dogs deserve some rights, animal rights are a thing that can be violated. Less cognizant animals like mice have less rights..

No. I didn't say that dogs "deserve little to no rights," I said they deserve some, more than mice, less than humans.

Furthermore, I own a dog. I have raised a guide dog for the blind. I would call myself a dog person, but I'm not one to pretend that my dog or any other animal deserves the same or better rights in comparison to a human.

See Noob's post.