asking tires

Just a heads up, this thread is gonna blow up... "probably".

Think of this topic like this, "GT5 is just a game and the majority of online drifters use Comfort Tires to drift. Thats Just the Way it is (said in sing song voice). There are lots of arguments about this."

In real life they use real tires, i have no idea of their specifications other than they are rubber and get way more grip than my 65$ Michelins do.
 
HE1RO
Just a heads up, this thread is gonna blow up... "probably".

Think of this topic like this, "GT5 is just a game and the majority of online drifters use Comfort Tires to drift. Thats Just the Way it is (said in sing song voice). There are lots of arguments about this."

In real life they use real tires, i have no idea of their specifications other than they are rubber and get way more grip than my 65$ Michelins do.
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exactly real life has more grip so sports tire... why are people calling themself pros when they drift with comfort tires...its to easy with comfort tire and i know its a game :P
 
What you just said is where the arguments start. Because everyone else has an opinion on what those tires are. Again, its just the way it is, and the only way to know exactly what tires Drifters use in real life is to meet them in real life and ask them. And they will tell you the exact name of the tires they are using, which are probably provided by their sponsors.

P.S. Dont start with, "Do you use Sport or Comfort tires?" lol
 
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=154301
The thread ended in a flame war, but not before alot of people had their say. This post should flat-out answer the question for you

TwinTurboCH
I work for Europes highest level drift series. I drive in Europes highest level drift series. I also Judge professionally accross Europe, so I think I'm reasonably well qualified to answer this.

In real life, there are several championships that allow 'Slicks' and similar and yet NO-ONE uses them. Why? Because they don't provide progressive traction and make most cars almost impossible to drive. I know a few people who have tried to use them, one had a large accident in the processs, one had a catastrophic tyre failure which caused over a £1000 worth of bodywork damage, and the other failed to qualify for the top 16 for the first time in his career. All went back to road tyres immediately.

In our main series, most drivers use normal road tyres, the equivelant of Comfort Hards, for battles and pretty much ALL of them use them for qualifying.

When things change, is in the battles. Some drivers will use super soft track tyres, Driftworks use the Federal RSR for instance, a couple of teams use the Maxxis MZ-1 Drift, I and a couple of others choose to use Kumho V70A's. This is because in the battles, any speed advantage is a good thing, but it usually has some effect on the performance in drift, reducing overall angle and smoke.

The fact is this, drifting in QUALIFYING is mostly about ANGLE and SMOKE. Therefore you use the tyre which allows the most of each (comfort tyre). Speed during solo runs is irrelevant to a point, as the two or three extra miles an hour a 'sport' tyre gives is not noticable to the judges (and in real life it IS only 2-3mph). The extra grip provided by the 'sports' means that with any given power in a drift car, you will be able to hold more angle and produce more smoke with a 'comfort' tyre because you can spin the wheels more. Using a 'Sport' tyre in qualifying will only hurt your score in 90% of championships.

So why do we use them in battles? Well, in battles, it is an accepted fact that both drivers are trying to go more quickly than in qualifying as you are trying to beat the other driver. As a result, while trying to find grip and traction, your angles and smoke levels are inevitably lower than in qualifying, this is because, as most people know, grip drops with the amount of wheelspin (more spin = less grip). Because of this, what you find is that, drifting on a 'comfort' tyre while trying to find speed produces similar results to drifting flat out on 'sports', the only difference being that you can queeze a tiny bit more speed out of the sports.

In real life, the differences in speed are in fact, quite negligable. A top level drifter on 'comforts' will be easily able to keep up with a mid level drifter on sports. The problem arises from the fact that the same IS NOT true in GT5. Sports in GT provide SIGNIFICANTLY more grip than comforts, meaning that the closing speeds on track are just massively unrealistic. In real life even slicks don't provide as much extra speed over 'comforts' as sports do in GT5. The difference is the way the tyre relinquishes it's grip and the way it recovers it. As a result, many of us who are 'pro-level' (i don't say pro as, like someone said above, none of us get paid to play GT5) will pick a tyre that MOST can drift on (comforts) and limit a room to that so that people can join in knowing that everyone is going to be the same speed and enjoy a bit of twinning.

I actually often find that most people who want to use sports are actually terrible drivers and can't link a circuit up in any way, just drifting individual corners, which frankly is pooh LOL They seem to thrive on the argument that they are 'fast' but they clearly don't get that drifting is not about outright speed. The main point being, I have NEVER found someone who can drift a course better on sports than they can on comforts.

Once you can link an ENTIRE track on comfort hard, then you progress to comfort medium, then onto comfort soft. If you can STILL link the entire track on comfort soft, THEN go and try to drift on Sport Hard's. But until you've done that, I'd be willing to bet money that a lot of the guys on comfort hard will hand you your ass in every battle you have :)
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^^^A vid by SAi which shows the difference between Sports Hards and Comfort Hards. It really demonstrates what TwinTurboCH was talking about.
 
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IRL the tyres used are grippier apparently. There is no "comfort hard" tyre IRL. CH tyres have the same grip as a normal road car I belive
 
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MrDinosaw94
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=154301
The thread ended in a flame war, but not before alot of people had their say. This post should flat-out answer the question for you

TwinTurboCH
I work for Europes highest level drift series. I drive in Europes highest level drift series. I also Judge professionally accross Europe, so I think I'm reasonably well qualified to answer this.




In real life, there are several championships that allow 'Slicks' and similar and yet NO-ONE uses them. Why? Because they don't provide progressive traction and make most cars almost impossible to drive. I know a few people who have tried to use them, one had a large accident in the processs, one had a catastrophic tyre failure which caused over a £1000 worth of bodywork damage, and the other failed to qualify for the top 16 for the first time in his career. All went back to road tyres immediately.




In our main series, most drivers use normal road tyres, the equivelant of Comfort Hards, for battles and pretty much ALL of them use them for qualifying.




When things change, is in the battles. Some drivers will use super soft track tyres, Driftworks use the Federal RSR for instance, a couple of teams use the Maxxis MZ-1 Drift, I and a couple of others choose to use Kumho V70A's. This is because in the battles, any speed advantage is a good thing, but it usually has some effect on the performance in drift, reducing overall angle and smoke.




The fact is this, drifting in QUALIFYING is mostly about ANGLE and SMOKE. Therefore you use the tyre which allows the most of each (comfort tyre). Speed during solo runs is irrelevant to a point, as the two or three extra miles an hour a 'sport' tyre gives is not noticable to the judges (and in real life it IS only 2-3mph). The extra grip provided by the 'sports' means that with any given power in a drift car, you will be able to hold more angle and produce more smoke with a 'comfort' tyre because you can spin the wheels more. Using a 'Sport' tyre in qualifying will only hurt your score in 90% of championships.*




So why do we use them in battles? Well, in battles, it is an accepted fact that both drivers are trying to go more quickly than in qualifying as you are trying to beat the other driver. As a result, while trying to find grip and traction, your angles and smoke levels are inevitably lower than in qualifying, this is because, as most people know, grip drops with the amount of wheelspin (more spin = less grip). Because of this, what you find is that, drifting on a 'comfort' tyre while trying to find speed produces similar results to drifting flat out on 'sports', the only difference being that you can queeze a tiny bit more speed out of the sports.




In real life, the differences in speed are in fact, quite negligable. A top level drifter on 'comforts' will be easily able to keep up with a mid level drifter on sports. The problem arises from the fact that the same IS NOT true in GT5. Sports in GT provide SIGNIFICANTLY more grip than comforts, meaning that the closing speeds on track are just massively unrealistic. In real life even slicks don't provide as much extra speed over 'comforts' as sports do in GT5. The difference is the way the tyre relinquishes it's grip and the way it recovers it. As a result, many of us who are 'pro-level' (i don't say pro as, like someone said above, none of us get paid to play GT5) will pick a tyre that MOST can drift on (comforts) and limit a room to that so that people can join in knowing that everyone is going to be the same speed and enjoy a bit of twinning.




I actually often find that most people who want to use sports are actually terrible drivers and can't link a circuit up in any way, just drifting individual corners, which frankly is pooh LOL They seem to thrive on the argument that they are 'fast' but they clearly don't get that drifting is not about outright speed. The main point being, I have NEVER found someone who can drift a course better on sports than they can on comforts.*




Once you can link an ENTIRE track on comfort hard, then you progress to comfort medium, then onto comfort soft. If you can STILL link the entire track on comfort soft, THEN go and try to drift on Sport Hard's. But until you've done that, I'd be willing to bet money that a lot of the guys on comfort hard will hand you your ass in every battle you have*


^^^A vid by SAi which shows the difference between Sports Hards and Comfort Hards. It really demonstrates what TwinTurboCH was talking about.
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^ Proof right here. Comfort hard is the way to go, if you think they're easy, come tandem with me?

Anyway, /thread
 
Honestly, this thread needs to be locked now, just so someone else doesn't try to repeat history... history of flaming butt hurtness.
 
K1ngKlicK
^ Proof right here. Comfort hard is the way to go, if you think they're easy, come tandem with me?

Anyway, /thread
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sure when and where psn= ismashu1994

pronounced = i smash you 1994

smash doesn't mean i hit it justs a user name i came up because i couldn't think of anything related to cars atm might create new user name soon but for the time being i will just use my real psn and 1994 means my birth year...
 
eminembeastfan2
sure when and where psn= ismashu1994

pronounced = i smash you 1994

smash doesn't mean i hit it justs a user name i came up because i couldn't think of anything related to cars atm might create new user name soon but for the time being i will just use my real psn and 1994 means my birth year...
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Mate, end of thread, don't even bother trying to bring up drift battles in a tyre question thread kklolbbqsauce?
 
MrDinosaw94

^^^A vid by SAi which shows the difference between Sports Hards and Comfort Hards. It really demonstrates what TwinTurboCH was talking about.
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I like the funky 90's cheese house music in this vid. Especially the 1st track.

try different tyres. Find the one that works for you with a particular car and go with it.
I use sports soft on my Lotus Carlton and comfort hard on my GT86. 2 different drift cars with 2 different characteristics that require 2 different tyre choices.

That concludes my contribution.
 
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If comfort works for you then fine, because I know a few who are fast use the correct line etc. I get the complaints about bumping but I think that comes from a confusion between "Battle Drift" and "Tandem Drift" . For me I don't tandem with someone who can't even keep up with me.
 

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