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Hmmm...if I'm informed correctly Mazda 787B should be added to the game sometime this fall and for free right?
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Its coming but i dont think it will be this fall. Each of the porsche dlcs will come with free porsche so three free porsches but then again a free car always come out at the end of the year with the end of year bombshell license announcements so it could be then or the MX-5 '89 will be coming with that cant tell just yet. What I can confirm is that the 2017 Panamera II is coming free in the next PC patch so it will come to the console users mid to late November. Right now as they balance things out you will be far behind but as it balances out towards the end of the year the gap should be around 2 weeks. If that 787B doesnt come this year then I think it will be free with whatever dlc comes out first next year.
 
brownninja97
Its coming but i dont think it will be this fall. Each of the porsche dlcs will come with free porsche so three free porsches but then again a free car always come out at the end of the year with the end of year bombshell license announcements so it could be then or the MX-5 '89 will be coming with that cant tell just yet. What I can confirm is that the 2017 Panamera II is coming free in the next PC patch so it will come to the console users mid to late November. Right now as they balance things out you will be far behind but as it balances out towards the end of the year the gap should be around 2 weeks. If that 787B doesnt come this year then I think it will be free with whatever dlc comes out first next year.
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2017 Panamera II? We better be getting a BMW M6 Gran Coupe then... We have so many awesome cars that don't have a direct competitor to race against. Granted, it's gotten better over time, but I think Kunos could do more. They are handcuffed in a way because of licensing, I understand that... Stupid lawyers and stupid corporations with their "intellectual property". Pfft! :sly:

The Toyota TS010 would be very nice. There is a TS020 that's supposed to see the light of day sometime this decade. ;) :lol: :D Oh, you know what car I would really like to see added? The Toyota Minolta 88c-v. Ooooh mama! On second thought, I'm not sure I really would want it in AC as the Group C Mercedes scares the crap out of me. Ahh...Those were the days of racing...
 
ALB123
2017 Panamera II? We better be getting a BMW M6 Gran Coupe then... We have so many awesome cars that don't have a direct competitor to race against. Granted, it's gotten better over time, but I think Kunos could do more. They are handcuffed in a way because of licensing, I understand that... Stupid lawyers and stupid corporations with their "intellectual property". Pfft! :sly:

The Toyota TS010 would be very nice. There is a TS020 that's supposed to see the light of day sometime this decade. ;) :lol: :D Oh, you know what car I would really like to see added? The Toyota Minolta 88c-v. Ooooh mama! On second thought, I'm not sure I really would want it in AC as the Group C Mercedes scares the crap out of me. Ahh...Those were the days of racing...
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Waiting on our art guy to do some skins, the TS020 is done. Back on topic though group c is HARD with the exception of porsche as they did this amazing thing called documentation there just isn't any information on it. Outside of manufacturer support it truly is a challenge to do those cars. The older toyotas would be great and we considered them for our next challenge but ultimately we couldn't find enough to make sure that the car would be accurate as a result we canned it. Our modeller is fed up of porsche now(kunos employee so you can imagine why) so no go with them as that Dauer seems like a nice option.

Hey now way off what I was meant to say, yes I totally get you with the competitor problems, considering everything i think the panamera II assuming its a turbo(550bhp, 770nm torque, 1,995KG) might be a rival for the M3 or M4 maybe the 1M. Well we will see the laptimes, could be an awesome case of speed versus handling. Modern GT Legends kind of rivalry. Well even with its weight it is the fastest sports sedan around Nords so will be interesting.
 
I know you and your team are working as hard as they can on the Toyota TS020 - I just like to tease ya about it, since so many people are dying to drive it! Me being one of them... :D I had no idea that the majority of Group C documentation has been lost over the years. That's a bummer. Those things are scary as heck to drive, but boy can they sound good whizzing by. 👍

Speaking of Toyota's, I'd love to see someone recreate this baby...the Toyota 7!
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I was completely unfamiliar with the Toyota 7 until I started playing GT6. It was one of my first "big purchases" in the game. It's a ridiculous vehicle, but man can it move if it has the room to stretch its legs. I believe there is someone working on the Chapparal 2J, another crazy car. Boy, the 70's were a great time for experimentation. It will be very interesting to see how the 2J aerodynamics work in AC if the project isn't just a figment of my imagination.

I was able to take one of the Daytona Prototype Corvette's out for a spin yesterday at my buddies house (he took his wheel back :mad:). Anyway, they have done a fantastic job with those cars. Have you seen how lowering the downforce actually physically removes some downforce items, like the dive planes up front and the louvered air slots above the front wheels? That's pretty nifty. I hope we start seeing more of that type of stuff appearing on mod cars going forward. You guys are all amazing wizards to me. It makes the game 1,000 times more interesting to me. I appreciate all the time you guys put into these mods!! :bowdown:
 
brownninja97
Waiting on our art guy to do some skins, the TS020 is done. Back on topic though group c is HARD with the exception of porsche as they did this amazing thing called documentation there just isn't any information on it. Outside of manufacturer support it truly is a challenge to do those cars. The older toyotas would be great and we considered them for our next challenge but ultimately we couldn't find enough to make sure that the car would be accurate as a result we canned it. Our modeller is fed up of porsche now(kunos employee so you can imagine why) so no go with them as that Dauer seems like a nice option.
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I am sorry to bother you with this but will there be any chance we'll see the Peugeot 905 EVO 1? I saw an image with the AC logo of that one and a youtube vid but later I realized it was a mod :indiff: The 905 was recently completely rebuild by a french company and I am sure that Peugeot Sport and the museum in Sochaux can provide loads of data on the car.



Next to that this is the last year of the Peugeot's RCZ Racing Cup. It will be replaced next year with the 308 Racing Cup and it would be great to see the RCZ cup racer living on in Assetto Corsa. All info on this car should be much easier obtainable. I even think that teams would be willing to cooperate ( GPA Racing, GLF Racing and CRT).

I really have no idea if this belongs to the possibilities of Kunos and if they would like to have them onboard?
 
@doblocruiser My guess is no, we will not be seeing the Peugot 905 EV13 in Assetto Corsa, ever. Of course, there is a big chance that I am wrong because I'm not privy to any insider information. This is just a gut feeling based on a few things. 1) Kunos doesn't have a licensing agreement with Peugeot. So it's impossible for the car to ever "officially" be in the game until some licensing agreement is reached & signed between the two companies. 2) I personally don't see Peugeot being sought after by Kunos. 3) This 905 is an LMP class car, right? Kunos isn't exactly jamming LMP's down our throats. It will probably appear as a mod car in the future, but that doesn't help console players, obviously. :grumpy:
 
ALB123
@doblocruiser My guess is no, we will not be seeing the Peugot 905 EV13 in Assetto Corsa, ever. Of course, there is a big chance that I am wrong because I'm not privy to any insider information. This is just a gut feeling based on a few things. 1) Kunos doesn't have a licensing agreement with Peugeot. So it's impossible for the car to ever "officially" be in the game until some licensing agreement is reached & signed between the two companies. 2) I personally don't see Peugeot being sought after by Kunos. 3) This 905 is an LMP class car, right? Kunos isn't exactly jamming LMP's down our throats. It will probably appear as a mod car in the future, but that doesn't help console players, obviously. :grumpy:
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Thanks for your reply. The 905 is a group C machine from the early 92/93. I know they currently have no license agreement with Peugeot. It's obvious I am a big fan and I find it rather worrying to see that simracing titles include no Peugeots. I simply wonder why that is? Is their license to expensive, are the cars not interesting enough?

All I want is to be able to drive around in a decent Lion :lol:

Besides if it is Peugeot or not, can a manufacture push as well for being included in AC?
 
doblocruiser
I am sorry to bother you with this but will there be any chance we'll see the Peugeot 905 EVO 1? I saw an image with the AC logo of that one and a youtube vid but later I realized it was a mod :indiff: The 905 was recently completely rebuild by a french company and I am sure that Peugeot Sport and the museum in Sochaux can provide loads of data on the car.

Next to that this is the last year of the Peugeot's RCZ Racing Cup. It will be replaced next year with the 308 Racing Cup and it would be great to see the RCZ cup racer living on in Assetto Corsa. All info on this car should be much easier obtainable. I even think that teams would be willing to cooperate ( GPA Racing, GLF Racing and CRT).

I really have no idea if this belongs to the possibilities of Kunos and if they would like to have them onboard?
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Cant comment on official content but in terms of mods that is something to consider for a mod as rebuilds mean documentation assuming they choose to provide information to us.
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I personally prefer this one though.

doblocruiser
Thanks for your reply. The 905 is a group C machine from the early 92/93. I know they currently have no license agreement with Peugeot. It's obvious I am a big fan and I find it rather worrying to see that simracing titles include no Peugeots. I simply wonder why that is? Is their license to expensive, are the cars not interesting enough?

All I want is to be able to drive around in a decent Lion :lol:

Besides if it is Peugeot or not, can a manufacture push as well for being included in AC?
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Peugeot regardless if they are trying or not are currently not seen as a top end sports car manufacturer, no GT3, no LMP(currently) and they dont have a stand out sort of car. The 308 GTI is getting close but not enough, they need to get back into serious racing, throw out a GT still car that can compete in one of the more well known series even with its slower like GT4 racing.

They are on the brink of starting a LMP1H program so I think once that happens it will be the lynch-pin.

Peugeot need to remove that taint that they got from the several years of releasing horrible cars, that reputation that Peugeot built has not been good and its hard to think how different they used to be.

The other variable is as you said is their license expensive and sadly its one of the brands I dont know about.

If they can get their act together and release something like the Onyx or Exalt even the SR1.

Also 508 GTI with aggressive stuffs, people like aggressive stuffs. No sports saloon is a bad idea and they cant give the crap that they dont have money, they have enough to consider an lmp1h program so they have at least 2billion sitting around.
 
brownninja97
Peugeot regardless if they are trying or not are currently not seen as a top end sports car manufacturer, no GT3, no LMP(currently) and they dont have a stand out sort of car. The 308 GTI is getting close but not enough, they need to get back into serious racing, throw out a GT still car that can compete in one of the more well known series even with its slower like GT4 racing.

They are on the brink of starting a LMP1H program so I think once that happens it will be the lynch-pin.

Peugeot need to remove that taint that they got from the several years of releasing horrible cars, that reputation that Peugeot built has not been good and its hard to think how different they used to be.

The other variable is as you said is their license expensive and sadly its one of the brands I dont know about.

If they can get their act together and release something like the Onyx or Exalt even the SR1.

Also 508 GTI with aggressive stuffs, people like aggressive stuffs. No sports saloon is a bad idea and they cant give the crap that they dont have money, they have enough to consider an lmp1h program so they have at least 2billion sitting around.
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Thanks for that 👍

The LMP1H would be great but currently they are investing in the Dakar and Rally Raid program. Soon the new 3008 DKR will be revealed. Since beginning of this Month Peugeot has changed CEO so it may be on option for them to warm up the Lemans class. Hoping for a smashing return :D

The 308 GTI is a great car and even the more extreme 308 R Hybrid is there (not in production). The 208 GTI is pretty sporty and the 508 has only the GT line which will be replaced by the Exalt(509 GT). Their image of a bad carmaker has changed here in France. It's currently the brand that is sold the most and produces about 1000 cars a day.

I agree that they don't really have a circuit racing program besides the RCZ Racing Cup and the "Rencontre Peugeot Sport" events in which they run a 208. The 308 Racing Cup will launch in 2017 as replacement for the RCZ and probably the 308 will enter in TCR as well. It's a pretty hot machine.

The picture you show from the non EVO evolution I prefer as well. It simply is more stunning to look at but I would take the one with the covered wheels ;)

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The EVO II sadly never made it onto the track.

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Well we will see how it turns out and if Kunos can get something in for French car enthusiasts :scared:
 
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Scuderia Paul
Marco said the Toyota TS040-HYBRID and Audi R18 e-tron are due Jan / Feb while the 919 Hybrid, both 2015 and 2016 models, will be part of the Porsche Packs.

I cannot wait!
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AC is in dire need of LMPs, old and new. By Jan/Feb do you mean next year?

I'd be happy with a pack spanning the 70s (330 P4, Ford GT40), late 80s/early 90s (Group C), late 90s (GT1) and current crop of hybrids. About 2-3 cars from each era, add in La Sarthe and we're all set :drool:

doblocruiser
Thanks for your reply. The 905 is a group C machine from the early 92/93. I know they currently have no license agreement with Peugeot. It's obvious I am a big fan and I find it rather worrying to see that simracing titles include no Peugeots. I simply wonder why that is? Is their license to expensive, are the cars not interesting enough?

All I want is to be able to drive around in a decent Lion :lol:

Besides if it is Peugeot or not, can a manufacture push as well for being included in AC?
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Does French and Italy have a rivalry? :lol: Now that you mention it, French cars are surprisingly missing from AC.

Having said that though mate, I know how much you love Pugs, but try to broaden your horizons a bit. If you're not gonna buy every game that doesn't contain Peugeots you're gonna be missing out. A lot. The NSX is my favourite car since I was 6 years old from playing it in GT1, and I'm OK with it not being in every game. Honestly, you'll get a much broader appreciation driving a wide variety of cars than sticking to only a few brands 👍
 
I am so freakin' mad. At about 2:00AM I started up a race on Monza using the Lamborghini Huracan GT3. The race was to be 10 laps against 25 AI drivers (using all the various Kunos GT3 cars available in AC and the SCG 003). I would be starting in last place, by choice, as I was really thinking this would be more of just practice racing. Monza almost always gives me fits because of that first chicane and just the general nature of the track layout doesn't give many passing opportunities unless you hit corners absolutely perfectly or a car in front of you stumbles a bit. Oh, AI was set to 90% which isn't overwhelming for me, but I thought with 25 cars in front of me it would be an insurmountable task I was facing.

Wouldn't you know I had pretty much the race of my life - only a few minor mistakes here or there. There were some very tense situations over the last four laps including a very gutsy late braking move by me at Curva Parabolica to pass the last car that was ahead of me on Lap 9. My driving was so much better than I expected.

I was so thrilled with my performance, I couldn't wait to watch the replay and I saved it immediately just in case anything were to happen and my race were lost forever. Well, that's when I found out that setting Replay Maximum Size to 250MB was not enough. :banghead: A 10 lap, 26 car race must be a bit bigger than 250MB because the 1st and half of the 2nd lap were cut off and lost forever. :crazy: :irked: I was so upset. Especially since I was most interested in seeing how my first 2 laps went considering I passed like six or seven cars in those first two laps. :grumpy: I went right over to that setting and cranked it up to 1000MB, the maximum. It sucks because I had it set to 1000MB before I had to reformat/reinstall Windows & AC a month or two back. I am baffled why I didn't put it back to the maximum size when I reinstalled AC. :banghead:
 
ALB123
I was so thrilled with my performance, I couldn't wait to watch the replay and I saved it immediately just in case anything were to happen and my race were lost forever. Well, that's when I found out that setting Replay Maximum Size to 250MB was not enough. :banghead: A 10 lap, 26 car race must be a bit bigger than 250MB because the 1st and half of the 2nd lap were cut off and lost forever. :crazy: :irked: I was so upset. Especially since I was most interested in seeing how my first 2 laps went considering I passed like six or seven cars in those first two laps. :grumpy: I went right over to that setting and cranked it up to 1000MB, the maximum. It sucks because I had it set to 1000MB before I had to reformat/reinstall Windows & AC a month or two back. I am baffled why I didn't put it back to the maximum size when I reinstalled AC. :banghead:
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Haha i had exactly the same happening to me last week. Raced the Maserati 250F against the AI on the Monza 66 full course (which is a challenge in itself), only to find out that it cut the replay right before the finish :D
 
LeGeNd-1
AC is in dire need of LMPs, old and new. By Jan/Feb do you mean next year?

I'd be happy with a pack spanning the 70s (330 P4, Ford GT40), late 80s/early 90s (Group C), late 90s (GT1) and current crop of hybrids. About 2-3 cars from each era, add in La Sarthe and we're all set
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Yes, the Toyota and Audi should land Jan / Feb 2017 with the Porsche arriving before Christmas. The Mazda 787B is the way as are some classic Porsches from the 70s - 80s and the Maserati MC12 GT1 should arrive early 2017 too.

La Sarthe will not be coming though and that was confirmed by Kunos unfortunately.
 
I can't wait to get the Audi & Toyota LMP's... Kunos has been talking about those cars for quite a while, so I hope they're not going to be based off of older versions and unable to compete with the Porsche 919. If you've noticed, Kunos often doesn't put a model year on various cars. The only way to figure out which specific model or year was to look up the listed specs to see which version/year/sub-model matches the game car. It wouldn't surprise me if they did that because of how they stagger releases and they don't want people jumping down their throats with stuff like, "Umm. They changed the side turn signal indicators from 3 inches behind the wheel arch to 4 inches behind the wheel arch this year. The modelling sucks!!!! DURRR"

People are going to absolutely love the Mazda 787B! Most PC users already have it, I think - although I'm sure the physics will be updated and improved to more accurate data by Kunos when they release it to the public. The modelling is impeccable and the sounds give me goosebumps. Plus, there are already a ton of skins available for it.

You surprised me with the announcement of the MC12 GT1. I didn't realize that Kunos made that official. That is pretty sweet, although it throws another lone car into Assetto Corsa as far as Class competition goes, doesn't it? There aren't any official GT1 cars from Kunos, are there? On the PC we have the Corvette C6.R, but that's it. Porsche technically didn't have a GT1 class car, right? Kunos doesn't have an Aston Martin license and we don't have the Ford or Nissan GT1s. I would gladly take a Murcielago GT1 race car! :D

It is too bad that Kunos isn't pursuing a license for La Sarthe, but I'm sure it's out of their price range. It wouldn't be a wise purchase. Thankfully we have a really nice La Sarthe on the PC side...
 
ALB123
I can't wait to get the Audi & Toyota LMP's... Kunos has been talking about those cars for quite a while, so I hope they're not going to be based off of older versions and unable to compete with the Porsche 919. If you've noticed, Kunos often doesn't put a model year on various cars. The only way to figure out which specific model or year was to look up the listed specs to see which version/year/sub-model matches the game car. It wouldn't surprise me if they did that because of how they stagger releases and they don't want people jumping down their throats with stuff like, "Umm. They changed the side turn signal indicators from 3 inches behind the wheel arch to 4 inches behind the wheel arch this year. The modelling sucks!!!! DURRR"

People are going to absolutely love the Mazda 787B! Most PC users already have it, I think - although I'm sure the physics will be updated and improved to more accurate data by Kunos when they release it to the public. The modelling is impeccable and the sounds give me goosebumps. Plus, there are already a ton of skins available for it.

You surprised me with the announcement of the MC12 GT1. I didn't realize that Kunos made that official. That is pretty sweet, although it throws another lone car into Assetto Corsa as far as Class competition goes, doesn't it? There aren't any official GT1 cars from Kunos, are there? On the PC we have the Corvette C6.R, but that's it. Porsche technically didn't have a GT1 class car, right? Kunos doesn't have an Aston Martin license and we don't have the Ford or Nissan GT1s. I would gladly take a Murcielago GT1 race car! :D

It is too bad that Kunos isn't pursuing a license for La Sarthe, but I'm sure it's out of their price range. It wouldn't be a wise purchase. Thankfully we have a really nice La Sarthe on the PC side...
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They are based on the old versions 2014 if i remember correctly, ill compare a few times to see what we are up against and yes porsche will be completely dominant in it, will not matter for online as we can ballast it or mess with restrictors. Offline will be a bit of a problem. Of course things could easily change and the respective licenses could be updated to support more modern cars.

Best lap times for each car at some tracks, number of times depends on how many of that car is running.

Silverstone:

Porsche 919 2016(layout change at the second to last corner): 1:53:66, 1:54:258
Porsche 919 2015: 1:39:534, 1:39:974
Audi R18 E-tron 2014: 1:42:477, 1:42:829
Toyota TS040 2014: 1:42:509, 1:42:622

Spa:
Porsche 919 2016: 1:39:308, 1:39:309
Porsche 919 2015: 1:54:755, 1:54:920, 1:55:230
Audi R18 E-Tron 2014: 2:01:823, 2:02:023, 2:03:296
Toyota TS040 2014: 2:00:950, 2:02:924

Le Mans:
Porsche 919 2016: 3:19:733, 3:20:203
Porsche 919 2015: 3:16:887, 3:17:767, 3:18:862
Audi R18 E-tron 2014: 3:23:271, 3:24:276, 3:25:814
Toyota TS040 2014: 3:21:789, 3:22:523

Almost at the point of the other lmp1hs are treated like Rebellion and Bykolles.

That all being said the hybrids are very hard for people to master still so a above average lmp1 driver in a 2014 car could best the 2016s rather easily.
 
Thanks for providing that data so quickly, @brownninja97! You're right. That is some serious domination. Like you said, if running these cars online you can BOP them easily enough. Do you have any idea why Kunos decided not to allow ballast or restrictors offline? When they first announced the ballast capability I was so happy...but that quickly turned to sadness once I realized it only existed on the server setup. I can't see how it would be a bad idea to have it in SP mode?? Things that make ya go hmmm....
 
ALB123
Thanks for providing that data so quickly, @brownninja97! You're right. That is some serious domination. Like you said, if running these cars online you can BOP them easily enough. Do you have any idea why Kunos decided not to allow ballast or restrictors offline? When they first announced the ballast capability I was so happy...but that quickly turned to sadness once I realized it only existed on the server setup. I can't see how it would be a bad idea to have it in SP mode?? Things that make ya go hmmm....
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Because you would then have to apply ballast via the launcher and everyone knows the vanilla pc launcher is a complete mess unless they do it via the setup box but then how do you apply ballast on ai also no clue how it would be done on console as there isnt an admin or overlord of the servers.
 
I wonder if console will be waiting until end of November for this first Porsche Pack. We still have to receive the Japanese Pack and Red Pack and I have a feeling they will be our September and October DLCs with us being two months behind PC. Looking at these gorgeous Porsche teasers is great but the wait could be looong.
 

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