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[Perico Lospa]

... I know that i've completely lost you (my lawyer is basically showing the same face as yours right now, begging me to plead for insanity on some unrelated case), but i couldn't keep this secret for myself any longer.

You bet! 😆

Jokes aside, I had a vague idea of how this VAO thing works, but thanks to your and Peter's explanations I now have a broader view. You learn something new every day!

Thank you all for taking the time to explain these things to us.

 

[Peter Boese]

@Peter Boese I keep hearing that I should switch from Pure Gamma to Pure LCS because it's objectively 'better', and more efficient, and more 'correct'. So I'd really like to switch.
Things look pretty good to me in Gamma with your PureVR PPF, but if I switch to LCS using the same PPF then grass goes very pale and other things just look subjectively 'weird'.
I guess what I'm asking is: shouldn't the current PureVR PPF (and other 'Pure' PPFs that come bundled with Pure?) be relabelled as PureGammaXX and a new set of PureLCSXX PPFs be included?
Because in my experience the generic 'Pure' PPFs might work with Gamma, but don't necessarily work as well with LCS.
I know I could tweak the config myself but I've no great understanding of the parameters and no real interest in learning. I'd much rather trust the expert (ie you) to come up with something appropriate, based on your extensive knowledge and experience.
People keep recommending various paymod PPFs from snake-oil salesmen and shysters, but in my experience, in VR, they're mostly garbage.

Actually in Pure LCS the normal "pure" ppfilter will manage Screen, HDR and VR automatically. So please try this first. You can manage your taste how it looks in the Pure PP app. In the Script tab you can adjust "photorealistic" and "soft look" to get the picture to your liking. Also you could try to use the "Natural mod" ppfilter which seems also great for VR.

Ac start crashing no matter what track or cars I use. Nvgpucomp64 issue. any help ?​

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update your nvidia drivers. It could also be a good thing to use the "Studio" drivers. But maybe first try the "Game ready" drivers.

 

[Tetri]

@Peter Boese I keep hearing that I should switch from Pure Gamma to Pure LCS because it's objectively 'better', and more efficient, and more 'correct'. So I'd really like to switch.
Things look pretty good to me in Gamma with your PureVR PPF, but if I switch to LCS using the same PPF then grass goes very pale and other things just look subjectively 'weird'.

I'm still hooked to gamma as well, but if you tell us all the things you wanna change we can either guide you to the proper slider or even make a few pp configs to try for (you would click import and try them in a click).

For my vintage cars and tracks it doesn't work great for example, but for modern cars and recent tracks it is pretty neat. What's a combo you're playing on atm?

 

[Gregz0r]

Does anyone know how to lower the visual(at least) ride heights of the ACFL 1994 F1 cars? They're decent grid fillers, but they all look like they've jacked up way too high on their suspensions.

 

[dms]

Does anyone know how to lower the visual(at least) ride heights of the ACFL 1994 F1 cars? They're decent grid fillers, but they all look like they've jacked up way too high on their suspensions.

In CM->select car->go to 'unpack data'->in the created data folder go to 'car' and then alter the second number (y) in GRAPHICS_OFFSET (the higher the number, the lower the car goes).

Then save file and in CM 'pack data' . You can check the height in showroom by clicking 'align using data' (you can save that too, for a correct preview showroom picture).

 

[Masscot]

I'm still hooked to gamma as well, but if you tell us all the things you wanna change we can either guide you to the proper slider or even make a few pp configs to try for (you would click import and try them in a click).

For my vintage cars and tracks it doesn't work great for example, but for modern cars and recent tracks it is pretty neat. What's a combo you're playing on atm?

Thanks, but all I want is a PPF that looks like PureVR does with Gamma, but with LCS instead.
PureVR with Gamma works for everything. The very last thing I want is to have to chop and change PPFs depending on the car/track combo, the weather, the time of day etc.
Do some people really have to do that?

 

[JK1977]

How long before all of the AC Evo Early Access cars and tracks get ported to AC then? I bet some people are already on the case.

ill try a car and ....it works perfect (488 evo)

 

[Tetri]

Thanks, but all I want is a PPF that looks like PureVR does with Gamma, but with LCS instead.
PureVR with Gamma works for everything. The very last thing I want is to have to chop and change PPFs depending on the car/track combo, the weather, the time of day etc.
Do some people really have to do that?

You got it wrong. I was trying to figure what cars/tracks you were mostly using, just to see how Pure LCS behave on them.

You might just be one slider away for it to be good looking, that's why i asked.

 

[Mandolph666]

hi, sorry, I tried and didn't get far, because the hood doesn't have a seperate material , it's not possible to recreate this skin exactly ... (the cameleon paint will also stick on the hood and roof, where you want to have different materials - and my skills don't extend to adding extra materials , only painting /changing existing ones)

thats fine, could you provide the ext_config you made? I might be able to fix it

 

[MasterFocus]

In CM->select car->go to 'unpack data'->in the created data folder go to 'car' and then alter the second number (y) in GRAPHICS_OFFSET (the higher the number, the lower the car goes).

Then save file and in CM 'pack data' . You can check the height in showroom by clicking 'align using data' (you can save that too, for a correct preview showroom picture).

Basey in suspension.ini but it change the actual ride height, so for an F1 might not be a good solution since the suspension travel isnt that much

 

[sab001]

That '62 corvette looks great! Where did you get it from?

Just took one of the existing C1s (the one with the most separated meshes) and stripped off the extra bits. For my scca stuff I have hacked up every car from the 50s & 60s to remove as much chrome as possible (or un-chrome it with csp), replace wheels with simpler steels, added roll cages, replaced seats, hide radios... but I haven't determined how to distribute this stuff. I have scca seasons with reasonably accurate grids, Marlboro 12hr, early TransAm (under/over 2L), Marathon de la Route (nurburgring) (love those Tatra 603s!), Bathurst...(etc.) I'll release Marlboro 12hrs first, probably with a list of cars to acquire with and an array of .kn5 updates to strip them down. (That way credit remains with the original creators...?) And although documentation linking car numbers to drivers (and to liveries) is quite sparse, a full set of skins will come with. Plug & Play 60s SCCA is the plan.

 

[Juppek]

Very soon, all mods will get a final update.

F1 2007 : this mod state was absolutely SDD level, it will get an update to get close to 2008 quality level

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F1 2008 - fixes

F60 ferrari : Fixes too

F1 2010 : New williams steering wheel, some shaders update, new skinpack and also you will be able to get the sharkfin version of both virgin and williams

F1 2011 : Updated cameras, updated chrome for mclaren. Updated helmet shaders

F1 2012 : Updated helmet shaders, fixing transparancy issue on the helmet glass material, fixing some 3D issue on the helmets. League physics added

F1 2013 : League physics added, some fixes and hopefully sort the engine left/right stereo not being balanced right


If there's something I missed, something you want to be sure it's fixed or added please tell me now

Great man, appreciate your work, about 2010, the rain tyres are making trouble as the sidewalls go chrome and the game crashes soon afterwards and the Renault could maybe need the F-Duct version (model), about 2013... The gear ratios need to be optimised in my opinion but apart from that there's nothing I can say against it, truly great work, 2007 maybe rain physics missing but when putting it close to 2007 mod it'll come I suggest, if not... Yeah then not

 

[kakauiyt]

Great man, appreciate your work, about 2010, the rain tyres are making trouble as the sidewalls go chrome and the game crashes soon afterwards and the Renault could maybe need the F-Duct version (model), about 2013... The gear ratios need to be optimised in my opinion but apart from that there's nothing I can say against it, truly great work, 2007 maybe rain physics missing but when putting it close to 2007 mod it'll come I suggest, if not... Yeah then not

sidewalls go chrome? weird i messed up the naming? maybe

Renault F-Duct won't be done, would make sense if I had an actual fduct system in physics.

2013, gear ratio mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm will see. was 2011 gear ratio good?

rain physics I already said can't be done, I have a steam deck, enabling rain on it is not possible so I can't test rain.

 

[Masscot]

You got it wrong. I was trying to figure what cars/tracks you were mostly using, just to see how Pure LCS behave on them.

You might just be one slider away for it to be good looking, that's why i asked.

Ah, gotcha. Sorry, I misunderstood.
I don't think cars are the problem, it seems to be tracks.
Eg, Autodromo Brno, with Gamma and Pure VR PPF the grass looks as intended, but with LCS and PurePPF, the grass is far too light, a real pale green.

 

[OooAhh Cantona]

Ah, gotcha. Sorry, I misunderstood.
I don't think cars are the problem, it seems to be tracks.
Eg, Autodromo Brno, with Gamma and Pure VR PPF the grass looks as intended, but with LCS and PurePPF, the grass is far too light, a real pale green.

Could it be the new topography? I personally didn't like the look of the new topography, so I kept Brno v2.5.1... its grass looks perfectly fine with LCS and Pure PPF on my single monitor setup.

You may want to stick with what makes you happy. If it's Gamma, then keep using Gamma. In addition to CSP and track variables, there are PC and monitor hardware/software that we each have.

Automotodrom Brno v3.1
This release includes brand new 3D topography and tree planting based on satellite images and contour data.


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Changelog v3.1 updated November 2024:

• New 3D trackside topography and perimeter environment created using Brno satellite images and contour data.

 

[Masscot]

Could it be the new topography? I personally didn't like the look of the new topography, so I kept Brno v2.5.1... its grass looks perfectly fine with LCS and Pure PPF on my single monitor setup.

You may want to stick with what makes you happy. If it's Gamma, then keep using Gamma. In addition to CSP and track variables, there are PC and monitor hardware/software that we each have.

No, the grass I'm talking about is the trackside/infield grass.
I'd happily stick with Gamma but hasn't @Peter Boese said himself that LCS is what we should be using, in the same way that we should be using Pure, not Sol?
Surely there's a way to use LCS and get whatever benefits it brings without having to make adjustments to track configs?
Surely there's a PPF that makes LCS look visually much closer to Gamma regarding tones, saturation, brightness etc?
That's why I'm curious that Peter hasn't included LCS-specific PPFs with the latest builds... because the ones created for Gamma look quite different with LCS. As you'd expect.

(edit: I somehow managed to miss Peter's message above before posting this)

 

[Juppek]

sidewalls go chrome? weird i messed up the naming? maybe

Renault F-Duct won't be done, would make sense if I had an actual fduct system in physics.

2013, gear ratio mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm will see. was 2011 gear ratio good?

rain physics I already said can't be done, I have a steam deck, enabling rain on it is not possible so I can't test rain.

Let's say... 2011 seems a bit short as well but somehow you'll not reach it but it reaches the limit at 310kph almost... seems short but is reeving up slower than 2013 so it get's better

 

[Masscot]

Could it be the new topography? I personally didn't like the look of the new topography, so I kept Brno v2.5.1... its grass looks perfectly fine with LCS and Pure PPF on my single monitor setup.

If you prefer the older Brno with the perimeter treewalls and the original topography, you might as well use this v2.68 version that was never made public because we made the decision to change the topography before it was released.
I've given it a new folder name so you can also download the latest v4.0 'new topography' version as well (it'll overwrite your version 2.5.1, but this v2.68 will supersede it anyway) and run them separately, to easily compare or contrast (or just if you want to drive the reverse route).
This v2.68 version doesn't have the reverse route that v4.0 has, but it does have these changes from v2.5.1 which should be notable improvements:
v2.68 updated September 2024

• All tree textures replaced to reflect the wider variety at Brno. More trees planted. All tree shadows fixed. Tree meshes fixed. Floating trees seated. New bespoke treewall and bush textures created.
• Animated flying birds added.
• Animated camera jib, marshals and cameramen added.
• Some adboard/sponsor textures updated. Some adboard meshes fixed.
• New fence textures, distance markers, pit entry signs, and marshal hut numbers.
• New road texture and skidmarks. Race '07 skidmarks removed.
• New balloon textures.
• Solar path corrected to enable proper shadow casting for Brno's orientation.
• Various other tweaks and fixes, including: new animated paddock helicopter; alpha corrections on pit entry road markings; marshal hut number sequence corrected and missing number textures remapped; s/f gantry banner mapping fixed on the rear side; floating hillside fences fixed; various jumbotron tweaks; various texture/shader tweaks.

Download automotodrom brno with treewalls

Download File automotodrom brno with treewalls

sharemods.com

(Automotodrom Brno is now at v4.0, but the message link you posted above was for the older v3.1. You might not have tried v4.0?)

 

[koening02]

Just took one of the existing C1s (the one with the most separated meshes) and stripped off the extra bits. For my scca stuff I have hacked up every car from the 50s & 60s to remove as much chrome as possible (or un-chrome it with csp), replace wheels with simpler steels, added roll cages, replaced seats, hide radios... but I haven't determined how to distribute this stuff. I have scca seasons with reasonably accurate grids, Marlboro 12hr, early TransAm (under/over 2L), Marathon de la Route (nurburgring) (love those Tatra 603s!), Bathurst...(etc.) I'll release Marlboro 12hrs first, probably with a list of cars to acquire with and an array of .kn5 updates to strip them down. (That way credit remains with the original creators...?) And although documentation linking car numbers to drivers (and to liveries) is quite sparse, a full set of skins will come with. Plug & Play 60s SCCA is the plan.View attachment 1421650View attachment 1421652View attachment 1421653

Damn...

these screens are magic

i want to run this race!
i want a Bop for these cars and make a championship!

that's it, i'm in love!

 

[Gregz0r]

In CM->select car->go to 'unpack data'->in the created data folder go to 'car' and then alter the second number (y) in GRAPHICS_OFFSET (the higher the number, the lower the car goes).

Then save file and in CM 'pack data' . You can check the height in showroom by clicking 'align using data' (you can save that too, for a correct preview showroom picture).

Thank you so much for this info. It has/will transform quite a few mods visually!

The only thing I need to research now, is how to raise/lower the position of some car’s steering wheels.
ChatGPT has only served to lead me up a few dead and streets.