Autobacs Super GT Season 2 | Polling is Now Closed!!!

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The SC430 is too fast on the straights with the cars limited to 500hp when it gets a turbo. It already makes 503hp without a turbo or upgrades after the oil change. On Fuji's straight it was 10kmh faster. At Monza its around 15kmh.
 
At the regs I posted. Special stage route 10 going up the hill.

First value max df, second min df

Top speed
HSV 175 187
Gtr 176 191
Lexus 176 188

Minus a turbo the Lexus sucks getting out of the corners. 1.5s off the pace at motegi without a turbo
 
I can't remember Brands Hatch, maybe a 1.18.8 and pretty much the same for Madrid, which was reverse version of the track. I know we can probably get a 1.17.5 out of Madrid with more laps. Tyres were racing hards too.
 
ZachAK47
At the regs I posted. Special stage route 10 going up the hill.

First value max df, second min df

Top speed
HSV 175 187
Gtr 176 191
Lexus 176 188

Minus a turbo the Lexus sucks getting out of the corners. 1.5s off the pace at motegi without a turbo
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Fuji speedway F with equal wing
Turbo'd the SC- 281kmh HSV- 274kmh GTR- 275kmh @502hp never used minimum d.f or max.
 
Ok guys this is what's up for Winter Testing, time to hush the arguing and pick the winners by the end of the month.

Winter Testing Outlined​

We are racing the same as if this was a regular series round race.

  • Autobacs - You are to bring for Autobacs chassis with 2 settings on-board. The 1st setting is stock DF, suspension, transmission, etc.... The 2nd setting is your car fully tuned and ready to race setting as if this was for points.
  • FIA GT - the same as above for Autobacs, you are to bring your chassis's of choosing 1 default setting, and 1 fully tuned setting for this upcoming race.
  • We're going all out 10 lap stints using each set of the reg's we have listed previously. Ok guys so tune your cars for Brands Hatch because that is where we will be racing this weekend in both chassis'
 
joetruckv8
I don't know either that's why we are going to run them?
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You must have misunderstood. Youre not going to get much knowledge because the r8 cant be driven in its stock settings anywhere near the other cars. Thats why Im saying whats the point. Youll see if you drive it stock.
 
I can never understand why any testing is done with stock settings. None of the data gained will be of any use at all. And nobody is going to run a car at stock as they are terrible to drive.

If i tune my car to how i like it to feel and drive then all i have to worry about is getting my lap times up, once i hit my maximum consistently I'll move to next car etc etc.
 
Ok after my 2nd test day with the GT3 cars I have my 1st of reg adjustments coming in. Pretty much the Vette is the fastest car on grid so we are up tuning the pack to the speeds of the Vette since it can't really be slowed down. We have the SLS, bmw's, Gt40's on pace with the Vette with these new reg's. the Nissan GT3 is a track dependent chassis so here at Brands Hatch we can't even get it to speed with any other chassis. But at some of the other tracks we were able to get the GT3 Nismo on pace with the others cars so,..

Anyways our new upgraded reg's

  1. SLS AMG GT3 1350kg/542hp (we ran as high as 571hp and I would allow it if a slow driver picks this chassis, fast guys 542hp)
  2. BMW M3 GT 1350kg/542hp (2nd best car can be ran between 1300kg to 1350kg depending on driver)
  3. BMW Z4 GT 1300kg/532hp ((denpending on driver 2nd fast best car on grid) still need to check oil change on this car for more hp, but don't think it needs it) can't drive the Audi but want a MR feel drive this 1!
  4. Chevy Zo6/ZR-1 1290/1300kg/512hp (1 of fastest cars on grid the pace setter in our eyes)
  5. Ford GT40 502hp/1365kg (1 of the fastest cars on grid if the rear end kick out gets dialed out of the chassis)
  6. Nissan GT3 1350kg/571hp to 591hp ( this car at least here at Brands Hatch wasn't even competitive!, we ran as high as 591hp and still secs of pace)
  7. Audi's R8LMS 1300kg/542hp (this car is still (pending testing!!!) due to the fact we still need a good setup still, but at this point here's the hp & kg for now)

Test resumes tomorrow night, Wednesday, and Thursday night. After Thursday my reg adjustments will be over and I will submit what I got for Sarurdays winter testing rd #1'
 
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That weight on the Z4 is going to destroy my love for that car, I'll have to have a good test run later and see whats what.
 
The Z4 runs identical lap times to the Z06, Ford GT, and SLS at 1300kg. You have to tune it like an MR to push it that hard though.
 
You dont need to add weight to any car but the vette and ford gt. They should all run stock weight and power after oil change. Imo you shouldnt add any performance parts to the cars. The vette is not the fastest. The Ford is. The vette's base setup is good. But that means the others have bad base setups. Test the cars at nuetral tracks like Silverstone or Nurb gp/f or Fuji F. Short tracks favor cars that handle well and have good turn in. Those other tracks let the cars stretch out and use their power. GT3 cars are naturally balanced. The heavy cars are heavy because theyre big (GTR) or very powerful and fast (SLS). The Nissan has a lot of weight because the road car. The SLS has the big engine with huge power so its heavy to slow its advantage. The BMW is light because its lower power so it remains nimble. The R8 is sad in this game, but it should be ok with 1300kg ballasted to the front.
 
I've been testing with Flanked at Fuji aaaand:

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1290kg 512hp

STOCK: 1:37.669
SETUP: 1:38.9xx

:P
 
trustjab
You dont need to add weight to any car but the vette and ford gt. They should all run stock weight and power after oil change. Imo you shouldnt add any performance parts to the cars. The vette is not the fastest. The Ford is. The vette's base setup is good. But that means the others have bad base setups. Test the cars at nuetral tracks like Silverstone or Nurb gp/f or Fuji F. Short tracks favor cars that handle well and have good turn in. Those other tracks let the cars stretch out and use their power. GT3 cars are naturally balanced. The heavy cars are heavy because theyre big (GTR) or very powerful and fast (SLS). The Nissan has a lot of weight because the road car. The SLS has the big engine with huge power so its heavy to slow its advantage. The BMW is light because its lower power so it remains nimble. The R8 is sad in this game, but it should be ok with 1300kg ballasted to the front.
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Hmmm, Seth the cars are dynamically different kg's Because all these cars come from different series irl, and once again we are trying to combine them into 1. In all of racing the cars all are virtually the same kg may it be karting, F1, LMP, Super GT etc,.. That's why I started my reg's based off of the same kg. If you want to try all the cars at their stock kg we can give it a try this Saturday, but I won't be holding my breathe when it comes to the results. I'm not saying they wont work because I haven't tried it yet, but No other series out there is trying to run these cars at stock kg, it is what it is. A lot of us don't like it but were just going to have to deal with the way it is. I as able to lighten 3 of the new chassis down to 1300kg but there is a politic. There is a small limit between catching the American chassis, and leaving the 1350kg chassis in the dust. You can add hp, but I would go with the eng 3 & turbo route because with more hp means more gas guzzling, and the last thing you want is a already slow car taking more time in the pits,.
 
joetruckv8
Hmmm, Seth the cars are dynamically different kg's Because all these cars come from different series irl, and once again we are trying to combine them into 1.
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Which is why we should just stick to the cars labeled at gt3 lol
 
Just so you guys have the same data as me

Gtr 542 1350 low turbo
Zr1 542 1300
Audi 542 1400 low turbo
Sls 542 1350 low turbo
M3 532 1350 low turbo
Z4 542 1350 low turbo

Suzuka
Gtr 2.01.877
Zr1 2.01.666
R8 2.01.971
Sls 2.02.185
M3 2.01.725
Z4 2.01.631

Monza
Zr1 1.49.468
Sls 1.49.687
Gtr 1.49.940
R8 1.49.433
M3 1.49.536
Z4 1.49.674

Motegi
Z4 1.52.568
Zr1 1.52.298
Sls 1.52.630
Gtr 1.52.115
R8 1.52.106
M3 1.52.203

These regs above were to fit in the zr1 and the ford gt. I found the ford gt to be way too unpredictable and track dependent to be included. It could smash some laps and be a snail on the others.


Gt 423 1365
Gtr 621 1350
Viper 423 1350
Vette 423 1290
Z4 532 1190
Sls 591 1390
R8 552 1300
M3 522 1250

Suzuka
Gt 2.02.963
Gtr 2.03.346
Viper 2.03.166
Vette 2.03.215
Z4 2.03.368
Sls 2.03.157
R8 2.03.275
M3 2.03.482

Motegi
Gt 1.52.444
Gtr 1.52.259
Z4 1.52.157
Sls 1.52.163
R8 1.52.282
Viper 1.52.890
Vette 1.52.862
M3 1.52.435

Monza
Vette 1.52.056
Gt 1.51.678
Gtr 1.49.776
Z4 1.49.923
Sls 1.49.581
R8 1.49.830
Viper 1.51.946
M3 1.49.962

Fuji
Gtr 1.35.121
Vette 1.36.733
Gt 1.35.965
Z4 1.34.845
Sls 1.35.263
M3 1.35.475
R8 1.34.841
Viper 1.36.773

Top speed
Vette 169
Gtr 189
Gt 171
Z4 193
R8 185
Sls 194
M3 183
Viper 168

The regs above are stock gt3 car w/ oil change. As you can see I tried to fit in the ford gt and zr1 (and the viper which was then dropped) around the stock gt3 cars. The stock gt3 cars perform very close to each other, with only the sls needing ballast.
The American cars however can be made to match the gt3 pace at certain tracks and then absolutely suck or destroy at others.

It simply isn't right having the zr1 and ford gt in these regs IMO.

Make your own judgement off my data.
 
Use the Z06. I think its slower than the zr1 because One- its NA, not supercharged. Two has a lot less torque when stock.
 
Im afraid i have to agree with zach, the american cars no matter what the regs will always be either too fast or too slow. If we want to get this show on the road i suggest we drop the american cars and focus on the gt3 cars.
 
trustjab
Use the Z06. I think its slower than the zr1 because One- its NA, not supercharged. Two has a lot less torque when stock.
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Tried the z06. It's as fluctuant as the ford gt. It is slower on some tracks than the zr1 and faster at others.
 
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