Automobilista 2 - Discussion Thread

[Beezer215]

Speaking of the Fusca HC2, how fun is this car? I had to use it last night because of this discussion. You can really get a nice slide in the corners for fun at the expense of your tires but wow, the feeling of being on the edge of grip is superb.
One of the best things about this update is how no matter if it's a car with 150hp or 500hp, fast or slow, there is always this sense of danger you're going to overdrive and spin. You can feel in the wheel that the tires will not hold if you push any more. I have spun just about every car that I've driven so far searching for what it's new limit is and each time I did spin, I understood why. It was realistic, I deserved to spin and figured out the limit.
And somehow doesn't the spins even feel better? The tire contact with the track has been significantly updated and is very immersive. Could sit here and write walls of text on what a good job they did amending some of the issues AMS2 had before.

 

[Pearl Jam]

Just had a race on here and not played it in months, obviously been patched since and oh my, now I have a Fanatec DD wheel it is insanely good, first off it looks absolutely fantastic on my mid hi-ish rig (4070) and the AI were the best I’ve ever raced against, obviously this could be attributed to the fact I’ve not raced on this sim in quite a while, but I actually felt like racing proper racers, ffb was immense, now I’m realising why Scaff adores this so much, loving the new UI interface too.

 

[Shaun]

Just had a race on here and not played it in months, obviously been patched since and oh my, now I have a Fanatec DD wheel it is insanely good, first off it looks absolutely fantastic on my mid hi-ish rig (4070) and the AI were the best I’ve ever raced against, obviously this could be attributed to the fact I’ve not raced on this sim in quite a while, but I actually felt like racing proper racers, ffb was immense, now I’m realising why Scaff adores this so much, loving the new UI interface too.

Yeah, I have Scaff to thank also for picking this up.

It was a long time ago now, but I recall reading a post of his where he urged people to give it a go. At the time there was a demo available, I can't remember the track but pretty sure it was with the Polo.
Being honest I didn't gel with the demo, uninstalled it and moved on. Months later and Scaff was still talking positively about it and there was a Steam sale on so thought bugger it and bought it.

Since then, I've purchased all the DLC and will continue to do so even if the content isn't of particular interest to me purely to support Reiza. The passion they have for AMS2 is obvious.

The 1.6 update continues the progression AMS2 has made, it's now my go to Sim/Game for pretty much all my racing. I don't have time to commit to online racing and when you find the sweet spot for yourself AI wise AMS2 gives a fantastic racing experience. The physics feel good, I'm no physics expert by a long shot but the cars feel 'natural' to drive to me.

Some of the new tracks AMS2 I have never even heard of is a huge bonus, Ibarra for is a great example of this. That downhill section after the main straight is just awesome.

 

[Northstar]

Some of the new tracks AMS2 I have never even heard of is a huge bonus, Ibarra for is a great example of this. That downhill section after the main straight is just awesome.

The track list really makes AMS2 feel different than every other game since it's not just the usual big name European, North American and Japanese tracks (granted they are thankfully there as well for the most part). It's opened my eyes to so many great tracks in South America that aren't Interlagos.

The best part is there's still some interesting content in the works as well as the long awaited career mode.

 

[Shaun]

The track list really makes AMS2 feel different than every other game since it's not just the usual big name European, North American and Japanese tracks (granted they are thankfully there as well for the most part). It's opened my eyes to so many great tracks in South America that aren't Interlagos.

Absolutely and while not complaining for personal reasons would also like to see some more Australian tracks and content.
I certainly can't blame Reiza for having a large amount of South American content.

The best part is there's still some interesting content in the works as well as the long awaited career mode.

I'd ask but know you can't give out the info anyway 👍, the career mode is something I'm really looking forward to. The way I see it is that it's likely to open my eyes to even more combinations I would never normally try.

If becoming an AMS2 Club Member was still open I'd be all over it. 👍

 

[Scaff]

Yeah, I have Scaff to thank also for picking this up.

I should start asking for commission 😀

It was a long time ago now, but I recall reading a post of his where he urged people to give it a go. At the time there was a demo available, I can't remember the track but pretty sure it was with the Polo.
Being honest I didn't gel with the demo, uninstalled it and moved on. Months later and Scaff was still talking positively about it and there was a Steam sale on so thought bugger it and bought it.

Yep, the demo doesn't let it shine unfortunately

Since then, I've purchased all the DLC and will continue to do so even if the content isn't of particular interest to me purely to support Reiza. The passion they have for AMS2 is obvious.

The 1.6 update continues the progression AMS2 has made, it's now my go to Sim/Game for pretty much all my racing. I don't have time to commit to online racing and when you find the sweet spot for yourself AI wise AMS2 gives a fantastic racing experience. The physics feel good, I'm no physics expert by a long shot but the cars feel 'natural' to drive to me.

Some of the new tracks AMS2 I have never even heard of is a huge bonus, Ibarra for is a great example of this. That downhill section after the main straight is just awesome.

The track list really makes AMS2 feel different than every other game since it's not just the usual big name European, North American and Japanese tracks (granted they are thankfully there as well for the most part). It's opened my eyes to so many great tracks in South America that aren't Interlagos.

The best part is there's still some interesting content in the works as well as the long awaited career mode.

Same here, I love a title with a track list that let's us try stuff thats hard to find elsewhere, for me that's a trait both AMS2 and RRE share.

 

[Beezer215]

GvsE Car Updates 1.6

From GvsE: I have updated the first batch of street cars to patch 1.6. The updates include brakes re-calibration, FFB adjustment, AI 1.6 code, sound updates, GUI images updates, and bug fixes. Please...

projectcarsmoddingteam.weebly.com

 

[greenlightning]

I have been enjoying the latest updates. On the weekend that the updates dropped. Encountered an unexpected situation where by Moza R5 plug in to the pedals completely broke. This was a result of me taking my sim wheel stand to a relatives for the holiday. This issues was like a punch in the gut. Ended up using a PS5 controller for a few weeks. Which actually is not that bad. I would honestly say if that is all you have it would still be a fun experience in AMS2.

Choose to go with Sim Lab P500 as replacement pedals. The next day after had placed order with a 3rd party sim equipment supplier. Receive an email that they no longer had any in stock and that could be close to 4 weeks before receiving any. I wrote back and informed them completely unacceptable and that would prefer to cancel the order. The next day or so they wrote back saying they found a set and would be delivered in a week or so. Using them now, however do not believe that I would recommend the P500 pedals. I have not really try to make any adjustments or change the brake springs. Might do this in late January.

Also purchased a MSI 40 inch wide flat screen for reasonable price. This was a good purchase and does the job. Size wise a 50 inch TV would most likely be optimal.

Purchased the IMSA content the other day.

As we all know AMS2 is really great with the update. I have spent a lot of track time on Jerez Moto. Really like the medium sized tracks the best. P1, P2 and P4 current favorite car classes.

Tried LFM one time so far. Was punted off the track in first lap and car turned upside down. Will wait for different car/track combo before trying again. Really would just like to find a group of like minded racers where more on casual side and do not have forced interior and forces manual gears on. I do use interior most of time just do not necessarily want to be forced to use that.

 

[greenlightning]

What I have been doing for the last several weeks is to pick a track and essentially mainly use that track for a weekend or week. To better get to know the circuit etc. Jerez Moto has become one of my favorite tracks. Using Silverstone 1975 now and believe it will also become a favorite. It would be nice it we could create a favorites list for tracks.

 

[greenlightning]

Had a good day with a few sessions with Low Fuel Motorsports today.

1) GT4 at one of my previous simple go to tracks.
Almost avoided the 1st lap carnage, except as
a car was comming back on track hit me in
the rear and have 100 damage points. I
decided to pit quickly and fix the damage. Full
lap caution came out middle of the race. I
was able to catch the rear of 2nd pack of cars
by time went green. Finished middle of the
field which I thought was good for only 2nd
LFM session.
2. Second session same cars and track. This
time avoided all of the first laps instances.
Towards middle of the race spun out one
time. Maybe running to close to edge of
track or brake a little off or maybe car got
unbalanced. Just seems like you can take
the same line and brake/corner speed lap
after lap and then out of the blue the front
tires loose grip. Did a quick pit stop mid
race and still finished mid pack.
3. Third session, should of know better. Ran
stock card at one of the tracks that start with
"V" but not Virgina. That track was not
meant for stock cars. Finished the race,
except was very much a struggle and very
boring. Do not plan on using that track any
time soon.

To summarize it does appear that LMF has good potential for online racing with AMS2.

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[Beezer215]

Maybe running to close to edge of
track or brake a little off or maybe car got
unbalanced. Just seems like you can take
the same line and brake/corner speed lap
after lap and then out of the blue the front
tires loose grip

Did you notice dirt on the track? Was there someone in front of you? I've noticed that dirty air is a thing that works well in AMS2. I've followed cars around some corners and understeered pretty bad due to lack of downforce. Dirt brought on track also can cause issues.

Funny thing about the V tracks you mentioned. It's either Velopark or Velo Citta and Stock Cars Brazil run at both of those tracks. 😄

 

[greenlightning]

Did two sessions of GT4 at Ibarra today in LFM.
Nothing two special about those sessions.

Have not really notice dirty track or dirty air on the times that have spun out.

I find it interesting that even with offline large car fields that does not really impact the racing that much. Meaning usually there will be groups of car then gaps between the groups. Have not really done much oval racing so that could be different. Also have not done much mixed class racing. I have however experimented some with different classes that would not normally be in the same race series.

There are lots of things that need improved besides continuous physics. I like to watch the replay, however on some tracks when camera is on track selection. There can be at least 15 seconds or more where you do not even see the cars. That is one thing that absolutely hate with AC, it could be what seems like 30 seconds or more of wasted replay time before the race even starts.

 

[Beezer215]

New batch of road car updates:

GvsE Car Updates 1.6

From GvsE: I have updated the first batch of street cars to patch 1.6. The updates include brakes re-calibration, FFB adjustment, AI 1.6 code, sound updates, GUI images updates, and bug fixes. Please...

projectcarsmoddingteam.weebly.com

 

[imported_rik19]

Ive just been on this again today in vr with my wheel and pedals setup, T150, i dont know what has changed but i couldnt get my on screen wheel rotation to match what my rig was doing, normally i can change the rotaton mode on the wheel itself, and i went into calibration settings in game and did what it said, but wouldnt behave, heres a video i did, the wheel animation turns more and way faster than what im doing, adjusting my wheel base rotaton with the mode setting made it even more sensitive, like a tiny turn and it was nearly full lock on screen...hmm couldnt find any other settings..if anyone could help..looks wrong this, turning too much...

 

[greenlightning]

Ive just been on this again today in vr with my wheel and pedals setup, T150, i dont know what has changed but i couldnt get my on screen wheel rotation to match what my rig was doing, normally i can change the rotaton mode on the wheel itself, and i went into calibration settings in game and did what it said, but wouldnt behave, heres a video i did, the wheel animation turns more and way faster than what im doing, adjusting my wheel base rotaton with the mode setting made it even more sensitive, like a tiny turn and it was nearly full lock on screen...hmm couldnt find any other settings..if anyone could help..looks wrong this, turning too much...

Not sure, however understand your frustration. I used to have a T-150 prior to 2022. Now using Moza R5 which is so much better then T-150. I have issues occasionally from time to time usually after in game wrecks where my real life wheel with not return to center. Even after exiting that session or even sometimes restarting the game. Sometimes reset my wheel rotation/center to zero in Moza software will fix this back to normal. There are sometimes however when seems like have to restart computer for things to get back to normal.

I guess if nothing elses works you can try remapping you wheel.

 

[OooAhh Cantona]

Is there a quick and easy way to create Reiza style car previews? Some skinners will create their own car previews, and I prefer the Reiza style.

 

[jenson86]

Hi,
How is the online action nowadays in AMS2? Is there any ELO rating?

 

[Pearl Jam]

It’s on The Last Train To London

 

[CTznOfTime]

Ive just been on this again today in vr with my wheel and pedals setup, T150, i dont know what has changed but i couldnt get my on screen wheel rotation to match what my rig was doing, normally i can change the rotaton mode on the wheel itself, and i went into calibration settings in game and did what it said, but wouldnt behave, heres a video i did, the wheel animation turns more and way faster than what im doing, adjusting my wheel base rotaton with the mode setting made it even more sensitive, like a tiny turn and it was nearly full lock on screen...hmm couldnt find any other settings..if anyone could help..looks wrong this, turning too much...

Issue resolved?

Let me summarize to see if I got this correctly:

In a given corner or even a slight turn:
1) You IRL turn the wheel enough to make the direct change (as normal)
2) the car on the screen behaves as you wish and per the direction change that you desire (as normal) at least that's what I observed from the video.... Because the car doesn't turn excessively either ...no ?
3) BUT the animation on the screen of the steering wheel and the avatar's arms seems to be turning way more, in an exaggerating way for the given turn or direction change....

Looks to me a it's a coding issue no ?

Is it just for that Mitsubishi or also for multiple or all cars... .?

Did the game recently receive an update?

Maybe you should disconnect everything, reset the steering or erase the steering settings, restart the game and reconnect the steering... Have you done that ?

How about playing with the controller, does it have the same issue?

 

[Beezer215]

Is there a quick and easy way to create Reiza style car previews? Some skinners will create their own car previews, and I prefer the Reiza style.

Not necessarily. I think the guys are using a model software to get the angle and initial shot and then importing to something like Photoshop to erase the background to match Reiza's preview. You can get it close without but that's the best way to actually match the preview.

 

[slthree]

I was surprised not to find a dedicated form for AM2

I have exclusively been a console racer and I've never really needed a laptop because I use my device as a laptop but I bought a laptop for one reason only, to play AC Evo

Now, I remember that many of my friends who played project cars 2 spoke highly of this game. Project cars 2 has been my favorite racing game of any racing game on console

If AM2 is as good or better, I want to buy it.

I'm staring at a screen on steam where if I buy everything it's 186.90

Obviously, I want to do multiclass races and endurance races and I want as many tracks as I can experiment on.

If I can afford it should I buy this all-inclusive bundle or is it a rip off?

I also saw a few of you thanking Scaff for recommending the game and I like the way he views racing games so that it has me leaning toward buying this game but I don't know if I need to buy the whole thing but I wouldn't mind if I had to

 

[Northstar]

I was surprised not to find a dedicated form for AM2

I have exclusively been a console racer and I've never really needed a laptop because I use my device as a laptop but I bought a laptop for one reason only, to play AC Evo

Now, I remember that many of my friends who played project cars 2 spoke highly of this game. Project cars 2 has been my favorite racing game of any racing game on console

If AM2 is as good or better, I want to buy it.

I'm staring at a screen on steam where if I buy everything it's 186.90

Obviously, I want to do multiclass races and endurance races and I want as many tracks as I can experiment on.

If I can afford it should I buy this all-inclusive bundle or is it a rip off?

It's on sale pretty often so I would wait until the next Steam sale. But yes, it's worth every penny. The only thing PC2 has over it is a career mode, but AMS2 will be getting one in the near future and the custom championship mode is a pretty good substitute for now.

 

[Beezer215]

Just wait for a sale. Might be a while but be patient. Unless you really need to get on.
AMS2 is at the top of the list for me. It is the go to 90% of the time. It does a LOT of things extremely well.
AMS2 better than PC2? It surpassed PC2 around it's release for me, now after 1.6, it far exceeds not just PC2, but others as well. AC, rF2, LMU, ACC. I still use them sparingly but I always go back to AMS2. It combines a lot of what these other do.

If you're into the racing aspect of sims, with all features like rolling starts, Full Course Yellows, Custom Championships, Multi-Class racing, competent AI that pits for fuel and tires, than AMS2 is for you.

 

[slthree]

You guys are awesome. Thanks

I do lean toward career mode more than anything and I also love and multi-class racing.

I can't believe flags were mentioned because I don't recall ever seeing flags in PC2

Do you experience seeing the AI making unforced mistakes?

 

[Beezer215]

Not only does the AI make mistakes, which are cool and funny, there is a slider to change the amount of mistakes they make.

Ask yourself this: What is GT7's career mode? What is Forza Motorsports career mode? Outside of doing license test and circuit experiences, which let's be honest, everyone would do without if it wasn't for getting credits or free cars, all of which you have in AMS2 in the first place, these game's careers are composed of championship series. You can do Championships. You can do multiclass championships of more variety than is able to create in these other games. Not having to grind for credits to use a car that's 20 mill is a wonderful thing.

One more thing, the performance you'll find is 10x better than what the optimization of AC Evo is at the moment.
You should be able to run it fine.

 

[slthree]

Not only does the AI make mistakes, which are cool and funny, there is a slider to change the amount of mistakes they make.

Ask yourself this: What is GT7's career mode? What is Forza Motorsports career mode? Outside of doing license test and circuit experiences, which let's be honest, everyone would do without if it wasn't for getting credits or free cars, all of which you have in AMS2 in the first place, these game's careers are composed of championship series. You can do Championships. You can do multiclass championships of more variety than is able to create in these other games. Not having to grind for credits to use a car that's 20 mill is a wonderful thing.

One more thing, the performance you'll find is 10x better than what the optimization of AC Evo is at the moment.
You should be able to run it fine.

Well, thanks for breaking my willpower to wait for a sales event. You spoke to everything I needed to hear and I've already purchased and downloaded the game.

It won't be till later tonight or I get a chance to actually play it and get my wheel calibrated but I did peek at a couple of menus and I tinkered with the single race settings and I was pleasantly shocked at the options.

Just like you said, you can set the amount of mistakes the AI drivers make. That is probably first on my list of necessary things for a racing game. I play project cars 2 since it launched and I'm still playing it and always wish that the AI would make more mistakes.

Then, I was blown away that you can pick more than just four classes for a multi-class race. I probably wouldn't do that on a regular basis but in the event that would like to see a lot of different cars on track I might use that.

I am really excited to get going with this.

Thank you

 

[Beezer215]

You deserve it. You've been talking about it for a while now. You being someone who really enjoyed PC2, you have an obligation to try AMS2. You will love it, I have no doubt.
Plus there is nothing like an AI right in front of you biffing a corner in a pile of tire smoke as you go passing by, laughing your ass off. It never get's old.

 

[Shaun]

it far exceeds not just PC2, but others as well. AC, rF2, LMU, ACC. I still use them sparingly but I always go back to AMS2. It combines a lot of what these other do.

Yep, couldn't agree more with this, it's my go to sim 95% of the time.
To me the only thing ACC does that AMS2 doesn't is have mid race game saves, I've done a few scaled 24hr races on ACC and in all honesty is the only thing I still use it for.

I don't bother with AC anymore, as good as it is for me there was just too much keeping up with the mods etc. If you have the time it's brilliant but spare time isn't something I have a lot of, so my preference is just jump in and race.

I'm keenly watching and testing AC EVO and as it stands if it improves enough that's all that will pull me away from AMS2.

Enjoy @slthree I don't think you will be disappointed.