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There's an Aventador SV at my local Lamborghini dealership. I might go check it out this weekend.
Aventador SV Unveiled At Geneva
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Sorry for butting in and being a bit late, but...
Okay, granted, the SR8 LM isn't available as it has been phased out in favour of the SR8 RX, but the point still stands, I think.
This gets brought up every time a manufacturer sets a supposed "Ring record" but fails to beat the Radicals, it seems. I could go to Radical's website and buy an SR8. And I could drive it to work every day afterwards (provided I had the cash, which I obviously don't). How's that any different from an Aventador SV?
Okay, granted, the SR8 LM isn't available as it has been phased out in favour of the SR8 RX, but the point still stands, I think.
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However it is road legal. Practical? No. But it is legal.
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How does that change a thing?
The Avantador's surely less practical and possibly less comfortable than a BMW 5 series. Can I exclude the Avantador because of that? Seriously, I, too, can come up with a bunch of arbitrary requirements in order to exclude cars I dislike 👍
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This is the classification in question: "Street-Legal Production Car"
The Radicals meet those. End of story.
Those wanting to make little changes can go start a leaderboard of "Street Legal Production Cars That Also Fit My Subjective Idea of a Street Car" and see how that goes.
The Radicals meet those. End of story.
Those wanting to make little changes can go start a leaderboard of "Street Legal Production Cars That Also Fit My Subjective Idea of a Street Car" and see how that goes.
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It doesn't matter, the way it makes you feel about it isn't a required mandate or reasoning to it being road legal. At the end of the day it is a road legal production car that has (as @Famine taught me long ago) obtained the top times on street tread during public track days, all while being driven from the factory and then driven back.
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Press car making US rounds (like the P1 GTR). Have to be quick to see it.
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At what arbitrary number is a car considered "series production"? The Lexus LF-A Nurburgring Package is limited to only 50 units. The Pagani Zonda F is only limited to 25 units (not Zonda F Clubsport that was actually used for a Nurburgring time, mind you, the Clubsport is some number in that 25 unit total). The Maserati MC12 was limited to 50 units as well. The Gumpert Apollo, some small number.
I was unable to find exact Radical production numbers, though they have stated at one point in time that they've sold 1900 Radicals of all models since their founding in 1997. The SR8s may not have been all of them, but I would be surprised if they didn't sell at least 50 of them.
So if the LF-A, the Zonda, etc count, then why don't the SR8 count?
That's the historical start/finish of the Nordschleife. On the other side of the Armco barrier on the right are the historical pits.
Manufacturers rent out the entire track when they do Nurburgring record runs, closing it from the public. I doubt any manufacture is dumb enough to send another car out on track while they are trying to do a Nurburgring run, especially if they think it's for the overall record.
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Fun fact: the Radical SR8 is so street-legal that the Radical crew actually drove the record-setting SR8 from their factory in the UK to the Nurburgring, set the Ring record, then drove the same car back to the UK.
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it's the red line notification.
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Radical are a racing car manufacturer. Considering the amount of one-make series and CN class series they've had to supply for, I'd safely say that less than 100 of those sold were road cars.
Having just checked the UK register, there appear to be 0 currently listed on the roads. The DVLA don't list a car on its V5 unless they are in extremely low volume, so there quite literally are just a handful of road cars.
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Five cars out of the current top ten lap times for the Nordschleife are currently being held by either boutique manufacturers or cars with very limited production runs.
Gumpert, for example, managed to sell two - TWO - Apollos in their last year before they went bankrupt. I've never seen anyone complain about that thing being on the list of fastest cars. Because it's beatable, I suppose.
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Very impressive, hats off to Lamborghini, I wasn't expecting that. Makes me wonder if the eventual Huracan Superleggera can top this. Also curious if the much lighter and higher downforce Gen 5 ACR will come close to the Aventador SV. The 177mph top speed will hurt on the last straight but it could possibly make up the time through the corners.
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I don't think the Hurucan would top this as the Aventador is their flagship model, how would it look if their supporting V10 supercar was faster than their more expensive, flagship V12?
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The Huracan is already faster and handles better than the base Aventador. Faster 0-60, 1/4 mile, has a better gearbox and handles better on the track.
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Something makes me think the Aventador's size will help on the bumpy ring and I'm guessing even if it handles better, it's capable of getting grip.
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I still can't believe no one was buying it, even if my tastes are completely off the mark compared to average.
The ACR is interesting, if you watch the old car's video with the downforce meter, you notice it usually doesn't go very high unless the car is on a straight where all that downforce is just drag. A hundred pounds of downforce in the corners is still significant, but it's not as impressive sounding as the 1000 lbs figure that Dodge liked bragging about. They're doing the same with the new car, highlighting 2000 lbs of dowforce that it will likely never use in a corner (but maybe in braking). On the other hand though, the new ACR makes so much downforce that it rivals figures from some sports cars that are measured at high speed while traveling around or below highway speeds. For example, at 40 mph the ACR makes more downforce than the SRT-10 made at 150 (102 lbs vs 100 lbs). At 82 mph, it makes the same downforce that the 430 Scuderia made at 150 mph (430 lbs).
Still, it's over 100 hp behind the SV and the ring has plenty of fast sections.
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Aventador SV Roadster confirmed:
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/29/lamborghini-aventador-sv-roadster-confirmed/
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/29/lamborghini-aventador-sv-roadster-confirmed/
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So why is there still a roof on it?
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Because it hasn't been built yet apart from the test prototype that was spyed earlier.
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Because that's a picture of a regular SV.
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Is that the Aventador SV Roadster Nismo?
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