B-Spec - Absolutly rubbish driving.
- Thread starter GamerHugo
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Its likely you'll have to train your B spec driver if you want him to be any good.
Take a few cars to "The Ring" in practice mode and have at it, you should pick up a bunch of points. This worked in GT4 and until otherwise shown, there's no reason to believe it won't work the same way. Most people think (a) its not important and (b) its too involved to make him better.
But I assume you'll have to rely on him in longer races and you want him to be competitive right? If you want a reasonable amount of A-spec points you can't be overpowering the competition. At the same time you can't make it impossible for B-spec Bob to race competitively.
I don't know who expected B-Spec to be a finished product as soon as you booted it up.
Take a few cars to "The Ring" in practice mode and have at it, you should pick up a bunch of points. This worked in GT4 and until otherwise shown, there's no reason to believe it won't work the same way. Most people think (a) its not important and (b) its too involved to make him better.
But I assume you'll have to rely on him in longer races and you want him to be competitive right? If you want a reasonable amount of A-spec points you can't be overpowering the competition. At the same time you can't make it impossible for B-spec Bob to race competitively.
I don't know who expected B-Spec to be a finished product as soon as you booted it up.
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- B3rz3rk0r
Anyone completed the Toyota Yaris/Vitz challange yet? I upgraded my Vitz Euro Sport to about 160 BHP but Bob is still retarded and cant do anything right. Doesnt matter if i smash the command buttons or leave him alone. This is horrid...
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Picture it like your first pokemon, he can barely beat any of those tiny butterflies with his little ass flame.
But in time he'll be charring anything in its path.
Same thing, build up ,XP up ,skill up but dont push him to drive like YOU KNOW he cant.
You might have to settle for good driving and 2nd 3rd 4th place wins before he can ddrive well enough to take 1st without getting risky, remember the damage will be added to the Rigidity costs and affect the cars performance making even harder for Bspec to drive properly.
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- MidianGTX
I'm having the same problem. I guess we'll have to come back when he's leveled up a bit.
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- Brixxer600
There do seem to be advantages in making your driver hot headed aswell , i have one driver with cool temperament and his driving style is very smooth and considered but he is not agressive at all , if he gets overtaken there is no "Blood rush" to the head and he doesn't really respond , to him it's better to "Get the car home" than not finish at all, he is in effect the Dani Pedrosa of bspec (show him a wheel and he'll let you through) .
On the other hand my hot headed driver is completely the opposite , very agressive and has a loose driving style , he will defend his line and even block others who are trying to overtake , if you issue the overtake command then he will go through (at any cost) , be it a block pass or even a bump . In the last race i watched him defend 3rd place for 3 whole laps even although the car behind was quicker , his temperament was all the way in the red for the entire 3 laps , such was the determination that on the fina llap he actually forced himself and the other car into a wall , he still came home 3rd.
I really wish i had saved the replay because it was epic.The down side is that a hot tempered driver is more prone to mistakes and will use up the tyres a lot quicker than a cool tempered driver.
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I still don't understand the complaints.
You give the B-Spec driver a car marginally faster than the competition and he should win, but your Machine, Battle and Skill points won't go as high as they should.
It is likely the same thing you had to do with GT4 which is teach your B-Spec driver how to be good, just as somebody said with Pokemon. Your Pokemon hardly kicked ass when you first got it, so what makes you think B-Spec is any different?
Follow Orion_SR's write up on here about improving your B-spec points, it makes a huge difference. As I said in GT4 I can leave Bob to his own devices and he wins. Then again he has over 3,000 miles around the "Green Hell" so...
You give the B-Spec driver a car marginally faster than the competition and he should win, but your Machine, Battle and Skill points won't go as high as they should.
It is likely the same thing you had to do with GT4 which is teach your B-Spec driver how to be good, just as somebody said with Pokemon. Your Pokemon hardly kicked ass when you first got it, so what makes you think B-Spec is any different?
Follow Orion_SR's write up on here about improving your B-spec points, it makes a huge difference. As I said in GT4 I can leave Bob to his own devices and he wins. Then again he has over 3,000 miles around the "Green Hell" so...
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- Enzo_Guy
- GTP EnzoGuy
For the first race I cut him loose on Autumn Ring Mini in a tuned 600hp Viper GTS. He turned it into a drift event. I have a totally hot-headed driver, so I guess that didn't really help.
The second time I gave him a 414hp Evo VI GSR. He took to it like a pig to mud. It seems that at a lower level at least my personal B-Spec J. Hendrix was much more capable of performing in an AWD car that had moderately high horsepower. So a Skyline, Evo, STI, etc. would likely be a good choice for the first few B-Spec levels.
The second time I gave him a 414hp Evo VI GSR. He took to it like a pig to mud. It seems that at a lower level at least my personal B-Spec J. Hendrix was much more capable of performing in an AWD car that had moderately high horsepower. So a Skyline, Evo, STI, etc. would likely be a good choice for the first few B-Spec levels.
RF951
Premium
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- BF951
I currently am at level 13 B spec with 3 level 9 drivers. Two are calm types and one is a hot head. They all perform pretty much the same. The most important thing I've learned relates to the temperature bar. Keep it in the middle and you get the highest performance. At the beginning of a race all three drivers max out red as they fight to gain position. Once in front each will begin to calm down. The mellow dudes have to be pumped up more to prevent them front falling asleep...literally. I had one of these guys in an early 10 lap race in my '07 GTR which was huge overkill. I went away for 5 minutes and when I came back he was ice cold running laps 10 seconds slower than his best. Almost lost the race.
What I don't know at this point is what the up, down or sideways arrows mean.
What I don't know at this point is what the up, down or sideways arrows mean.
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- Franchaise
I put my level 9 driver in my slightly tuned Lambo SV. He likes this car and seems to crush the opposition with it quite well.
213crz
(Banned)
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- brandonjmeade
1. wtf is this pokey-man bs?? what is pokey-man? im 27 not 47 why you guys make me feel so damn old? lol
2. my driver never gets any commands accept for slow the F down bob and he is doing great.
3. you need to balance between giving him a better prepared car than competition, and not TOO much better of a car. if you want him to learn. as in real life your driver gains skill by driving in tougher races (or fairer), not just by winning. if you give him a rarri modena and the rest of the guys are driving miata's... he will get about half of the points he would get if he is also in a miata of equal power to weight. i think the trick for me that has worked the best is to just prep the car well.
it is very much like the real world where i have spent the last god knows how many years prepping my customers cars for the track and watching inexperienced driver after driver learn how to properly pilot their cars, i ALWAYS turn the boost down until they can handle it, else they just learn nothing but how to fly off the track, hit other cars, or at the very best waste their money on tires and brakes. and i know i learned far better by going up against the best in my usually underpowered but better prepped honda.
4. yeah can anyone at PD please fill us in as to wtf these arrows are all about?
2. my driver never gets any commands accept for slow the F down bob and he is doing great.
3. you need to balance between giving him a better prepared car than competition, and not TOO much better of a car. if you want him to learn. as in real life your driver gains skill by driving in tougher races (or fairer), not just by winning. if you give him a rarri modena and the rest of the guys are driving miata's... he will get about half of the points he would get if he is also in a miata of equal power to weight. i think the trick for me that has worked the best is to just prep the car well.
it is very much like the real world where i have spent the last god knows how many years prepping my customers cars for the track and watching inexperienced driver after driver learn how to properly pilot their cars, i ALWAYS turn the boost down until they can handle it, else they just learn nothing but how to fly off the track, hit other cars, or at the very best waste their money on tires and brakes. and i know i learned far better by going up against the best in my usually underpowered but better prepped honda.
4. yeah can anyone at PD please fill us in as to wtf these arrows are all about?
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- damaged_case
the arrow beside the helmet is your driver's form.
up and blue is good, right and green is average, down and orange is bad.
he learns that from you. if you direct him through a race and he has a rough go of it, he'll learn bad things from you, dropping his form. if you direct him in a brilliant race, he'll learn very good habits from you and raise his form.
it's easier for him to learn bad things than good.
experience is directly related to level of competition, so far as i've gathered.
if you do like i did and start your B-Spec driver in a Lamborghini Mercielago he won't learn as much as he would in, say, a Mitsubishi FTO.
i know this because i have 3 drivers now. my first one i put directly into my best cars. he was slow building. the 2nd driver, i'm taking a more civilized approach with and he seems to be learning quicker. 3rd driver i haven't taken to a race yet.
one of my drivers has a poor temperament.
one is about middle of the road.
the last one i got has a really good attitude.
i'll have to take the 3rd to a race to confirm, but with the two i've used so far, the one with the poor starting temperament seems to be faster and willing to take more risks to get ahead / win, but he also makes more mistakes than the more level-headed, slower driving mid-ranged chap (who is heir to the Smirnoff fortune).
all of this information is purely from my experience with playing B-Spec mode and has yet to be confirmed by anyone else that i know of. it's just the things i've picked up on.
i'm levelling my 1st driver as i go, in the cars i use to win races.
also, i'd like to note that i haven't noticed any draw-backs to spamming commands. however, ignoring him for long periods of time seems to have a negative effect on his Form. just make sure you're giving the right command at the right time. it's more strategy than anything.
when i go into a B-Spec race, i'll look over the map and divide the track into sections, then direct my driver according to the sections.
using Grand Valley Speedway Short as an example, the front straight is a Pace Up section. the slight S curves to the east are Maintain Pace section. the squiggly bit in the middle on the bottom is a Pace Down section, and the end on the West side is a Maintain Pace section.
if my driver is doing well as i go, and is in a battle for position, i might up the Pace one. if i'm having an easy time of it, i'll slow him down through the entire track to lessen the risk of a catastrophic crash.
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- damaged_case
one more thing to note on B-Spec drivers.
keep an eye on his mood during the race.
if he gets into the red, he WILL start driving like he's in a demo derby.
Pace Down until he calms down. you'll find that he'll do better, and have a faster laptime driving slower and calmer than he would if you keep pushing and pushing him while he's aggrevated.
keep an eye on his mood during the race.
if he gets into the red, he WILL start driving like he's in a demo derby.
Pace Down until he calms down. you'll find that he'll do better, and have a faster laptime driving slower and calmer than he would if you keep pushing and pushing him while he's aggrevated.
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- GTP_FlyingLizard
I got 13 win out of 14 races. not really with superior cars. I just always keep him in the middle of the temperament meter
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- Downtown North Dakota
- Cy-Fi
I've done some experimenting with the "condition status" as the manual calls it.
My B-Spec driver (F. Pastor) is level 7.
Six laps on Autumn Ring Mini.
Driving a stock Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 Chrome Line.
In the Sunday cup. Be quiet.
Keeping him cool the entire time, his best lap was a 49.915 seconds, 5:06:836 total time, 51.139 seconds average.
Keeping him hot the entire time, his best lap was 45:134 seconds, 5:01:183 total time, 50.197 seconds average.
Keeping him mid-line the entire time, his best lap was 45:720 seconds, 4:43:365 total time, 47.227 seconds average.
So while his fastest lap time was indeed while he was pissed (but by only .586 seconds), kicking the back end out repeatedly and spending a fair amount of time in the grass didn't do him any favors for his total time. Hitting the pit wall probably didn't help, either.
Want the best total time and average lap time?
Keep him in the middle. Keep in mind that these findings are with an open track. Once he's in an evenly matched car and in traffic, he goes into 80 year old man in Boca Raton mode.
My B-Spec driver (F. Pastor) is level 7.
Six laps on Autumn Ring Mini.
Driving a stock Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 Chrome Line.
In the Sunday cup. Be quiet.
Keeping him cool the entire time, his best lap was a 49.915 seconds, 5:06:836 total time, 51.139 seconds average.
Keeping him hot the entire time, his best lap was 45:134 seconds, 5:01:183 total time, 50.197 seconds average.
Keeping him mid-line the entire time, his best lap was 45:720 seconds, 4:43:365 total time, 47.227 seconds average.
So while his fastest lap time was indeed while he was pissed (but by only .586 seconds), kicking the back end out repeatedly and spending a fair amount of time in the grass didn't do him any favors for his total time. Hitting the pit wall probably didn't help, either.
Want the best total time and average lap time?
Keep him in the middle. Keep in mind that these findings are with an open track. Once he's in an evenly matched car and in traffic, he goes into 80 year old man in Boca Raton mode.
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- Ragnogroth
My driver doesn't even need to be told what to do, he's just racing like a pro.
I normally just put him in a car and tell him to go, then I can walk around at home and come back later, then he earned himself a 1st and some nice cash for me..
I normally just put him in a car and tell him to go, then I can walk around at home and come back later, then he earned himself a 1st and some nice cash for me..
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- MidianGTX
How do you use your B-spec dude on an open track?
To be honest if he's winning by that big a margin he's probably not learning much. I read on the GT4 forums they're better off in the long run if they get the chance to battle somewhat.
To be honest if he's winning by that big a margin he's probably not learning much. I read on the GT4 forums they're better off in the long run if they get the chance to battle somewhat.
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- England, Warwickshire
- GTP_Sigma
I've done some experimenting with the "condition status" as the manual calls it.
My B-Spec driver (F. Pastor) is level 7.
Six laps on Autumn Ring Mini.
Driving a stock Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 Chrome Line.
In the Sunday cup. Be quiet.
Keeping him cool the entire time, his best lap was a 49.915 seconds, 5:06:836 total time, 51.139 seconds average.
Keeping him hot the entire time, his best lap was 45:134 seconds, 5:01:183 total time, 50.197 seconds average.
Keeping him mid-line the entire time, his best lap was 45:720 seconds, 4:43:365 total time, 47.227 seconds average.
So while his fastest lap time was indeed while he was pissed (but by only .586 seconds), kicking the back end out repeatedly and spending a fair amount of time in the grass didn't do him any favors for his total time. Hitting the pit wall probably didn't help, either.
Want the best total time and average lap time?
Keep him in the middle. Keep in mind that these findings are with an open track. Once he's in an evenly matched car and in traffic, he goes into 80 year old man in Boca Raton mode.
definitely interesting findings. I will keep that in mind when I start my B-spec career. 👍
