Back End Keeps slipping Out???

[Schwartz]

Step 1: Turn up LSD settings all the way
Step 2: Slowly start tuning them down until you have a good balance of grip and handling.

 

[joe dirte9]

All camber in the game is negative, it's just not noted as such: -1.5 = 1.5

As to the original question, try more rear toe-in.

ty... i was so confused

 

[MiDriftSmoke]

If you want it to stop, make your SP in front stiffer than your rear and give it more rear camber than front and make your brake settup 7/3. It should help, I use that kind of settup on my cars and it works fine. But it might not work for everyone.

 

[Lambob]

Is your RPM / engine revving high when you are about to lose the rear traction? if yes, make that transmission gear a taller ratio, or lower the Final drive. /myGT5peeve. These cars have the brute power necessary to teleport you , without having to rev too high in any gear. Something I noticed is, as much as we "like to hear" our cars racing in high RPM, i found out that by lowering my Final Drive, thus increasing my top end speed and top end in each gear, the car won't sound like it's racing, but look at your lap times in the end, yeah, it's wierd I know. And watch out when you drift through twisty sections, it's like drafting behind a truck, you won't need the gas pedal that much.

If your front end is also setup to induce oversteer, then that will amplify itself as you shift the weight to the front from deceleration, and whiplash the rear. Some of the things I think about when tuning here and there. If all else fails, just read the ingame help manual, and take them word for word, they usually help in the end.

 

[MrGrado]

Someone earlier gave me a link to there acct's tune of the pescarolo hybrid.. i took it... and messed a little with transmition and the LSD...ALMOST PERFECT... its still a little looseer in the back then i want.. and i cant get the camber to go -1.5/-1.5

Something im missing? b/c it only goes to 0-10 on front and rear... is there upgrade or soemthing that allows me to go into negatives?

Thanks for trying my settings out. This is a very difficult car to get set up good. It seems to drive far worse than other similar cars. It might be a glitchy car. At the very least, PD has messed up the ride height adjustment with this car.

 

[dr_slump]

Thanks for trying my settings out. This is a very difficult car to get set up good. It seems to drive far worse than other similar cars. It might be a glitchy car. At the very least, PD has messed up the ride height adjustment with this car.

What's wrong with it?

 

[MrGrado]

The maximum rear ride height is -20.

 

[joe dirte9]

Yeah... your set up is very good... much more controllable and i LOVE the transmition to be honest... just seems perfect... it still slips a little more than im used to.. but thats because i have a really fast pace..

 

[MiDriftSmoke]

If you have a fast pace, then maybe its not the setup. When you are entering a corner, instead of just using the brake to slow down, brake while you are on the throttle and stay like that through the corner. This technique is what I've adapted to because cars that don't like to turn with just the brake or using the throttle (I.E: GT-R R35 or Enzo Ferrari). It may take some time to get used to but it's a good technique overall.

 

[joe dirte9]

so wait... when i got to take the turn... while im going through hold gas and brake at same time? or how does that work?

 

[dr_slump]

The maximum rear ride height is -20.

And?

 

[skyhigh90210]

I would say increase the ballast weight and shift it to the rear of the car. That worked on my MR-S.

 

[MiDriftSmoke]

so wait... when i got to take the turn... while im going through hold gas and brake at same time? or how does that work?

Well to be honest I'm not sure how it works. I know it sounds crazy but with a little practice and tuning knowledge, you can turn just about any car.

 

[Vegard]

It would help if you posted the complete setup of the car (Aero, LSD, and suspension).
I'm guessing your front anti roll bars are too stiff.

 

[joe dirte9]

hmm

 

[joe dirte9]

here we go... this is the dudes build... i changed it a little better for my prefferences... and my cars prefferences... but not much...

im face paced driver... so my car + loose = not good...

i mean rly face paced though...

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4233/74285048.png

 

[Vegard]

this is the dudes build... [/url]

Really?

I would try a radically different approach.
Something like this maybe:

aero: 58 / 85 (if 80 is max rear try 55 / 80)

-10 / -20
12,5 / 17,5
5 / 8
6 / 7
4 /6

1,8 / 1,1
0,00 / -0,15

9 / 23 / 24

This is basically a shot in the dark as i no longer have any peskys to test.
This tune is based on previous Pescarolo tuning and general Sportscar tuning.

PS: it really tied the room together.

 

[joe dirte9]

Really?

I would try a radically different approach.
Something like this maybe:

aero: 58 / 85 (if 80 is max rear try 55 / 80)

-10 / -20
12,5 / 17,5
5 / 8
6 / 7
4 /6

1,8 / 1,1
0,00 / -0,15

9 / 23 / 24

This is basically a shot in the dark as i no longer have any peskys to test.
This tune is based on previous Pescarolo tuning and general Sportscar tuning.

PS: it really tied the room together.

whats what... im confused whats Spring rate and ect on ur list here.. some things are obv... but the 3 things under Ride height.. whats damper1,2 and roll bars out of all that... forgot also spring rate

 

[MiDriftSmoke]

Joe. How about you go into the suspension and put the settings in as you see them.
-10/-20 RH
12.5/17.5 SP
5/8 DE
6/7 DC
4/6 ARB

1.8/1.1 Camber
0.00/-0.15 Toe

9/23/24 LSD

 

[joe dirte9]

thanks..... next time get a better attitude though.. seemed a little on the mean side nobody likes mean douchbags

 

[MiDriftSmoke]

Well, when you said "whats what... im confused whats Spring rate and ect on ur list here.. some things are obv... but the 3 things under Ride height.. whats damper1,2 and roll bars out of all that... forgot also spring rate," you sounded like you have never read a tune before.

 

[joe dirte9]

nah ive read tunes before... i just had a brain block

 

[joe dirte9]

Through 2 different tunes from MrGrado and Vegrard i have tried both... and made a tune that is in the middle of the 2

This Tune is the best yet... but im having a problem with Braking and understeer while entering turns. Here is the complete tune and all... plz help with this problem and will be #1 pescarolo hybrid tune imo.. b/c the rear end doesnt even kick out atm like it used to.

Racing hard
TCS 1
everything else off

No turbo's or car upgrades
total hp: 950

Aerodynamics: 60,85

Transmission: 1st: 4.500 2nd: 3.00 3rd: 2.200 4th: 1.672 5th: 1.280 6th: 1.000
Final gear: 2.791 Top Spead: 236 actually top speed: about 240...

RH: -10, -20
SR: 12.7, 17.3
DE: 5, 8
DC: 6, 7
ARB: 5, 6

Camber: 1.0, 1.3
Toe angle: .02, .15

LSD: 5, 5, 20 (idk y but i like my initial torque and acceleration sensitivity rly low)
Brakes: 8, 7 (i think this may have a lot to do with my brake/ turn entry understeer problem)

plz try the tune and help me fix my braking / turn entry understeer problem

PS: i do all my testing on Grand Valley and La Sarthe 2009 with chicane...
i feel liek Grand Valley is the perfect test track for about everything but top end speed... but thats what La Sarthe is for

so tune at these 2 tracks if u can... i feel if my car does good here... it does good everywere

Grand Valley: 1.39.573 at best so far with this car
Le Sarthe: 3.24.535 Terrible time i know... hlp fix