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- monty_YNOS-j
I know where my COTW member of the year vote is going at the annual awards!
Beater or Sleeper? GT6 Car of the Week Thread
- Thread starter McClarenDesign
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- Canada
- BaronBlitzRed
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- Rob_on_Drums
This may be a dumb question, but..... Do I have to download the Cotw track, or is it only the host that needs to have it for all of us to race.
Or is that just for the TT?
Or is that just for the TT?
- 5,785
- Norman, OK
- McClarenDesign
I haven't tested, but I'm sure for online races only the host needs it.
- 2,229
- Canada
- BaronBlitzRed
I was in a Zero Cup lobby with @tarnheld on Monday, and he loaded one of his own created tracks without any troubles and without all of us having it saved.
Cheers
- 2,228
- Bielefeld
- tarnheld
The biggest problem is that you can only use one user track per room and you can not switch to other tracks in this room, even normal ones. So if you plan to use other tracks you have to create another room.
I really hope PD lifts this restriction ASAP!
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- Norman, OK
- McClarenDesign
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- Kuala Lumpur
- CODEDestro
Hi. It's been a while again.
On a positive note, I see lots of newcomers to this group. It's great seeing such an active community of people who have plenty of things to discuss. I'm just about wrapping up my first semester in college, so if there hasn't been any change in race time, I should have no problem joining for a couple of weeks.
However, I did get a chance to try out the new Course Maker app (on Bluestacks) and I think I can list down a few pros and cons of the app and subsequently, data transferring the course into GT6.
Pros:
- The fact that it exists, is great, giving us creative control over track design, layout, even scenery.
- Transferring the course to GT6 from the app is quick, and painless.
- Test driving the course before saving it is great if you didn't like how it turned out and gives you the opportunity to remake it, no problem.
- Plenty of real-world tracks already replicated, although scenery, elevation changes, and scale is relatively limited.
- Hosting a user-created track in a lobby is easy, since only the host needs the track to begin with.
- Standing starts. 'Nuff said.
- I like the replay cams that are automatically set. They look really good sometimes.
Cons:
- Why is it an app?? I don't have a tablet, so I'm only allowed to use Bluestacks to run it. Camera control is limited on it however (no zooming in or out).
- You have no power over the run-off areas of the created track, so if I wanted to make something like, say a touge, I can't get rid of any run-off areas the app decides to put in.
- 10km is great, yet somehow I find it a little lacking for some of the tracks I had in mind.
- No elevation settings means I can't make something like Cape Ring, with that giant circle of a turn.
- Course width (minor issue) is a little limited, so if I want to replicate a course that's wider than the max width I'm given, quite impossible.
I'm probably just nitpicking, but I do feel like the app could be a lot better. That said, this feature has been a long time coming, and definitely adds replayability to the game. Once I figure out how to make anything resembling a touge, this will be the only thing I drive on.
I've missed a lot of CotW's (and sorry Brad @McClarenDesign for not replying your PSN message, as I only saw it the next time I came online), but I'm hoping that, once my finals are over, I'll be able to join again. See you in a couple of weeks.
On a positive note, I see lots of newcomers to this group. It's great seeing such an active community of people who have plenty of things to discuss. I'm just about wrapping up my first semester in college, so if there hasn't been any change in race time, I should have no problem joining for a couple of weeks.
However, I did get a chance to try out the new Course Maker app (on Bluestacks) and I think I can list down a few pros and cons of the app and subsequently, data transferring the course into GT6.
Pros:
- The fact that it exists, is great, giving us creative control over track design, layout, even scenery.
- Transferring the course to GT6 from the app is quick, and painless.
- Test driving the course before saving it is great if you didn't like how it turned out and gives you the opportunity to remake it, no problem.
- Plenty of real-world tracks already replicated, although scenery, elevation changes, and scale is relatively limited.
- Hosting a user-created track in a lobby is easy, since only the host needs the track to begin with.
- Standing starts. 'Nuff said.
- I like the replay cams that are automatically set. They look really good sometimes.
Cons:
- Why is it an app?? I don't have a tablet, so I'm only allowed to use Bluestacks to run it. Camera control is limited on it however (no zooming in or out).
- You have no power over the run-off areas of the created track, so if I wanted to make something like, say a touge, I can't get rid of any run-off areas the app decides to put in.
- 10km is great, yet somehow I find it a little lacking for some of the tracks I had in mind.
- No elevation settings means I can't make something like Cape Ring, with that giant circle of a turn.
- Course width (minor issue) is a little limited, so if I want to replicate a course that's wider than the max width I'm given, quite impossible.
I'm probably just nitpicking, but I do feel like the app could be a lot better. That said, this feature has been a long time coming, and definitely adds replayability to the game. Once I figure out how to make anything resembling a touge, this will be the only thing I drive on.
I've missed a lot of CotW's (and sorry Brad @McClarenDesign for not replying your PSN message, as I only saw it the next time I came online), but I'm hoping that, once my finals are over, I'll be able to join again. See you in a couple of weeks.
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- TrinityRai
Nice commentary! I think you should do more..💡
On other news, starting from next week, i might start doing some weekly COTW Cars videos. 👍
Anyway, the TVR V8S while it's definitely doesn't have the best handling or top speed or might even break down, i still had fun hot lapping on the brand hatch in that classic British sports car. I can't wait to race with you guys tomorrow.
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- Thibodaux
- TrinityRai
Nice commentary! I think you should do more..💡
On other news, starting from next week, i might start doing some weekly COTW Cars videos. 👍
Anyway, the TVR V8S while it's definitely doesn't have the best handling or top speed or might even break down, i still had fun hot lapping on the brand hatch in that classic British sports car. I can't wait to race with you guys tomorrow.
Thanks, and as for the car... I had fun with it, but I hated it... I fought with understeer the 3rd and 4th entire races
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- Lincoln
- Victory_Reign93
- Linthium Reign
It's that time again, where I kick procrastination to the curb and write about our weekly escapades which mostly include jabs at topical news, one liners and occasionally making @McClarenDesign contemplate "justifiable homicide" against yours truly. 
All joking aside, we do have a lot of fun when the servers are cooperating because as the old saying goes....
"Birds Of A Feather, Flock Together"
Yes we are starting with the 1969' (Datsun) Nissan Bluebird 1600 Deluxe (510) and this car would have more meaning than most.
The reason? It's the first car we drove after finding out our good friend @Baron Blitz Red had recovered from a serious heart attack and was getting back up to speed ( quickly if I'm honest 👍).
So with 'The Raven', 'BloodBird' and 'Sir Campbell's Bluebird' taking up the grid alongside all the COTW regulars and newcomers, we took to the track and got to work on the Bluebird.
Powered by a 1600cc 4 cylinder engine, it made 95hp after an oil change and whilst it isn't much, it's a plucky motor and wants to be driven hard.
It helps that it also weighs 930kg and has a decent 4 speed manual gearbox to boot.
The handling was pretty good, slightly biased towards understeer, but could also kick the tail out with some effort. Thats a reason the 510 did well in the under 2500cc class in Trans Am Racing.
One thing I noticed when we rallied the Bluebird is another drawback to having an open differential, as soon as you took weight off of one wheel, it'd start spinning all the power away and when your climbing up the Eiger mountain road, you definitely notice it.
That's not to say it was rubbish off road, there's a reason we have a rally version of in the game.
It is a sleeper, it didn't really blow us away on the straights, but was good fun through the turns and provided some close racing throughout the night.
Verdict: Sleeper👍
From Japanese simplicity to Italian Hot Hatch insanity.
'A New Day, A New Set Of Front Tyres'
Last weeks contender was the Alfa Romeo 147 GTA from the year 2002 (Christ that makes me feel old
).
Now from the outset, it looks very promising as it shares its badge, engine and drivetrain layout as last years Sleeper Of The Year, the 3.2 GT.
So will Alfa get the title for the second year running?
Afraid not.
You see the problem is that the Gran Turismo Amateur takes what the GT had and over does it.
Both have V6's upfront with the Grand Theft Auto making almost 250hp to the GT's near 230 horses.
The GT is actually slightly lighter than the Getting Tyres Already(?) too with both just under the 3000lb mark.
But the Gratuitous Tyre Annihilator handles much worse the GT.
So why the big difference in handling? I believe it's in how they set up from the start.
You see that the GT is more of coupe design and as its name suggests, setup for long drives in comfort and the engines power delivery reflects that, it's smooth enough that it doesn't immediately shred the tyres.
The Greatly Terrrible Analogies on the other hand is completely nuts, more power and a more performance oriented setup makes it beat those front tyres like they own it money.
It's quick in a straight line, but terrible going through turns ( no I'm not going to make THAT comparison as that's just low hanging fruit.
)
If I had to make an apt comparison, the GTA is the girl who'll put a big smile on your face, but also kicks you in the family jewels without warning and quite often.
The GT on the other hand is the one that can put a smile on your face and then asks if you want pizza too.:tup:
So the 147 GTA is a Beater.👎
Last, but by no means least, We have a Brit in our midsts, the TVR V8S.
(Off Topic, a Japanese styled car with a temperamental Italian engine and British electronics is officially my version of automotive hell
)
'Sound, Soft Top and Smoke'
The TVR brings a 4 litre V8 to the party and although is a few horses down on the nutty Alfa, it's also down on weight at just over a ton and it's up on torque as well.
Packing a 5 speed gearbox, the V8S was more than capable of over 160mph at tracks like SSR7 whilst sounding very nice.
With it being a lightweight, handling is responsive, but it's got quite a bit of understeer built into it.
When I drove it on CS tyres, it was still quite competitive against the standard cars SH tyres and was actually good fun to drive.
If one can adapt to the understeer, it is a pretty quick car to drive.
It didn't surprise me like the Bluebird, but it didn't try and throw me face first into the nearest gravel trap like the 147 GTA.
It's a Neutral for the V8S, fitting as that's the gear it'll be in most of the time due to constant break downs.
All joking aside, we do have a lot of fun when the servers are cooperating because as the old saying goes....
"Birds Of A Feather, Flock Together"
Yes we are starting with the 1969' (Datsun) Nissan Bluebird 1600 Deluxe (510) and this car would have more meaning than most.
The reason? It's the first car we drove after finding out our good friend @Baron Blitz Red had recovered from a serious heart attack and was getting back up to speed ( quickly if I'm honest 👍).
So with 'The Raven', 'BloodBird' and 'Sir Campbell's Bluebird' taking up the grid alongside all the COTW regulars and newcomers, we took to the track and got to work on the Bluebird.
Powered by a 1600cc 4 cylinder engine, it made 95hp after an oil change and whilst it isn't much, it's a plucky motor and wants to be driven hard.
It helps that it also weighs 930kg and has a decent 4 speed manual gearbox to boot.
The handling was pretty good, slightly biased towards understeer, but could also kick the tail out with some effort. Thats a reason the 510 did well in the under 2500cc class in Trans Am Racing.
One thing I noticed when we rallied the Bluebird is another drawback to having an open differential, as soon as you took weight off of one wheel, it'd start spinning all the power away and when your climbing up the Eiger mountain road, you definitely notice it.
That's not to say it was rubbish off road, there's a reason we have a rally version of in the game.
It is a sleeper, it didn't really blow us away on the straights, but was good fun through the turns and provided some close racing throughout the night.
Verdict: Sleeper
👍From Japanese simplicity to Italian Hot Hatch insanity.
'A New Day, A New Set Of Front Tyres'
Last weeks contender was the Alfa Romeo 147 GTA from the year 2002 (Christ that makes me feel old
).Now from the outset, it looks very promising as it shares its badge, engine and drivetrain layout as last years Sleeper Of The Year, the 3.2 GT.
So will Alfa get the title for the second year running?
Afraid not.
You see the problem is that the Gran Turismo Amateur takes what the GT had and over does it.
Both have V6's upfront with the Grand Theft Auto making almost 250hp to the GT's near 230 horses.
The GT is actually slightly lighter than the Getting Tyres Already(?) too with both just under the 3000lb mark.
But the Gratuitous Tyre Annihilator handles much worse the GT.
So why the big difference in handling? I believe it's in how they set up from the start.
You see that the GT is more of coupe design and as its name suggests, setup for long drives in comfort and the engines power delivery reflects that, it's smooth enough that it doesn't immediately shred the tyres.
The Greatly Terrrible Analogies on the other hand is completely nuts, more power and a more performance oriented setup makes it beat those front tyres like they own it money.
It's quick in a straight line, but terrible going through turns ( no I'm not going to make THAT comparison as that's just low hanging fruit.
)If I had to make an apt comparison, the GTA is the girl who'll put a big smile on your face, but also kicks you in the family jewels without warning and quite often.
The GT on the other hand is the one that can put a smile on your face and then asks if you want pizza too.
:tup:So the 147 GTA is a Beater.
👎Last, but by no means least, We have a Brit in our midsts, the TVR V8S.
(Off Topic, a Japanese styled car with a temperamental Italian engine and British electronics is officially my version of automotive hell
)'Sound, Soft Top and Smoke'
The TVR brings a 4 litre V8 to the party and although is a few horses down on the nutty Alfa, it's also down on weight at just over a ton and it's up on torque as well.
Packing a 5 speed gearbox, the V8S was more than capable of over 160mph at tracks like SSR7 whilst sounding very nice.
With it being a lightweight, handling is responsive, but it's got quite a bit of understeer built into it.
When I drove it on CS tyres, it was still quite competitive against the standard cars SH tyres and was actually good fun to drive.
If one can adapt to the understeer, it is a pretty quick car to drive.
It didn't surprise me like the Bluebird, but it didn't try and throw me face first into the nearest gravel trap like the 147 GTA.
It's a Neutral for the V8S, fitting as that's the gear it'll be in most of the time due to constant break downs.
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- Golden
- racer2833
If I knew of a good converter program for Mac I would share some of my replays from CotW but most of the well known programs are only for windows.
As for the VHS, I mean DVR! I mean TVR V8S. It's not to bad of a car and handles fairly well. You could get the power down but seemed to lack a decent top speed. The breaks are marginal for a heavy car and with some of the courses you could get on the brakes later and still keep it on course. I'm giving the TVR V8S a neutral standing as its neither a beater or sleeper.
As for the VHS, I mean DVR! I mean TVR V8S. It's not to bad of a car and handles fairly well. You could get the power down but seemed to lack a decent top speed. The breaks are marginal for a heavy car and with some of the courses you could get on the brakes later and still keep it on course. I'm giving the TVR V8S a neutral standing as its neither a beater or sleeper.
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- GreenBRAINS
Hey - What did I miss?
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- Lewis_Hamilton_
Hey - What did I miss?
Hey Green, good to see you join the forum after all these years.
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- GreenBRAINS
Hey Lewis - Thanks. Great to see you all on here. And, thanks for the shout out months back... Looking forward to following this thread.
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- Norman, OK
- McClarenDesign
Hey - What did I miss?
I little of everything, but you can catch the previous threads and discussions, because interwebs 'n stuff.
I'm about to watch this, I've been looking forward to it all day!
I also want to take this time to make a confession. Each week I select one of you guys to pick the next car, but this week is gonna be a little different. Since my birthday falls on Sunday, I'm going to gift myself the selection of this week's car.
Cheating? Yes, but I'll also offer you the option if your birthday falls on a Sunday, and if you notify me of this fact ahead of time. I will, however, give you a hint of what next week's car will be, using one of my favorite movies: Clerks.
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Dante Hicks
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Dante Hicks
Randal Graves
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- Rave2Grave
"Starlet" gave it away 💡
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- Thibodaux
- TrinityRai
the starlet glanza, I have to buy a new one
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- California
- GreenBRAINS
Make sure you get the optional dual airbag package.
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- Valongo
- Hcclipper
Woah woah, hold on just a gosh darn second; can we really expect that guess to be this easy? Last time I checked, Starlets don't really represent car porn all that much, unless you have some sort of sick obsession for hatchbacks.
Also, if the Starlet is indeed the choice for next week, then even McClaren has fallen victim of the "JDM bug". Not even the one person who once thrived for car variety when it came to our choices can resist a good ol'Japanese box of fun...
Also, if the Starlet is indeed the choice for next week, then even McClaren has fallen victim of the "JDM bug". Not even the one person who once thrived for car variety when it came to our choices can resist a good ol'Japanese box of fun...
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- Norman, OK
- McClarenDesign
the starlet glanza, I have to buy a new one
I wouldn't buy one just yet.
An excellent observation.
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- Valongo
- Hcclipper
An excellent observation.
Yay, I got something right!
(proud face)For once I did not guess wrong, but the problem now is that I can't quite guess what exact car will we drive for next week; it's either an incredibly unknown oddball of a car which has immense perfomance (since the whole "expand my horizons" thing is a part of your quotes), or a high-end Italian supercar (because if you want sexual car porn, you go to Italy first and foremost. It's one of those universal laws which are not spoken of by Morgan Freeman)...
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- Lincoln
- Victory_Reign93
- Linthium Reign
Yay, I got something right!
For once I did not guess wrong, but the problem now is that I can't quite guess what exact car will we drive for next week; it's either an incredibly unknown oddball of a car which has immense perfomance (since the whole "expand my horizons" thing is a part of your quotes), or a high-end Italian supercar (because if you want sexual car porn, you go to Italy first and foremost. It's one of those universal laws which are not spoken of by Morgan Freeman)...
It's a subtle trick he's pulled, leave an obvious ( To car enthusiasts) but false clue, but hide the real clue and rely on the obvious clue to create a distraction.
It's how some racers in the past got away with cheating, they make an obviously illegal modification and when it was discovered by the inspectors, they would focus on that and tell them to sort it, after it was done, they sail through inspection with the inspectors none the wiser to the fact that the car had a much more hidden and illegal modification done to it.
Smokey Yunick was the man behind some the most infamous cheats in NASCAR, including a long fuel line which had anywhere from 3-5 gallons of extra fuel in it.
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- Valongo
- Hcclipper
So in essence our esteemed friend, Mr. Mcclaren, was pulling a Toyota Celica WRC, hiding special tricks masterfully while drawing our attention to fake "obvious" stuff, correct? Haha, he has all the makings of a proper racing driver alright...
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- Lincoln
- Victory_Reign93
- Linthium Reign
So in essence our esteemed friend, Mr. Mcclaren, was pulling a Toyota Celica WRC, hiding special tricks masterfully while drawing our attention to fake "obvious" stuff, correct? Haha, he has all the makings of a proper racing driver alright...
Correct, he threw the rest of the quotes in to build a believable set up where the clue on the face of it, points towards the Toyota Starlet.
But as you said, it's not like McClaren to make it THAT easy to notice.
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- RacingCowboy570
- RacingCowboy570
The V8S. The last of the classic TVRs and my favorite one in GT6. Why? First off, it has a killer sound which makes it fun to cruise around in. Second, it makes a good car at 450pp. Used it in quite a few seasonals and it just dominates the competition, and that's why I'm giving it a sleeper rating. I made a tune for it quite a while back, and it was the second car featured in the Forgotten Cars Thread.
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- Canada
- BaronBlitzRed
Thankfully, my recovery for remembering how to drive has been easier than I was expecting if I had to be honest. Much easier than certain aspects of my physical recovery, but all in all, I must admit even that has surpassed my expectations... to the good that is.
Thanks for all the patience and understanding btw. I'm certainly glad to part of this family we have here at COTW headquarters. And my eternal gratitude will be extended to everyone here for all the concern and well wishes. You people are the best, and will always be appreciated more than words could possibly convey. 👍👍
Cheers
- 5,785
- Norman, OK
- McClarenDesign
This:
I hid it in the most obvious place... right in front of your eyes.
...and you were doing so well. Tsk tsk tsk...
You're gonna kick yourselves when it's revealed.
As you've said, we're family. Cept Vic, he's adopted. (j/k)
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- Valongo
- Hcclipper
You know what they say; there is only one way which can be taken after you hit the top. And now I shall roll right back down faster than a cheese runner in England.
Because that's how I roll (cue "420 swag" style music)...
I'm sure I will, if anything. You have a knack at making the unexpected expected, turning the impossible into possible, etc. I'll try to not sound too surprised when you bust that "secret choice" out, because being nailed with my own shoes tends to hurt a bit.
I knew he was the legitimate son of Matt Neal, that secret couldn't stay hidden for long! How do you explain his fast driving without considering him as the son of a BTCC driver?
...Thought so.
