Beater or Sleeper? GT6 Car of the Week Thread

[Niku Driver HC]

Hey, don't look at me, I have an European car ready and primed if I ever get called a "winner" of this biz again. You just spoke to the wrong people, that's all.

But hey, good choice. The Focus ST does tick all boxes, except the one that says "RS 500", but hey, beggars can't be choosers. And besides, I need to drive this more, I get the feeling that I've been missing out on all the fun. Can you do it, Ford?

 

[McClarenDesign]

 

[Niku Driver HC]

Nice seats.

Also, does that have any special meaning, or I am thinking way too much into it?

 

[McClarenDesign]

Nice seats.

Also, does that have any special meaning, or I am thinking way too much into it?

It's just a non-Japanese car. Or is it?

 

[Niku Driver HC]

It's just a non-Japanese car. Or is it?

My god, have you been lying to us this whole time? It is it the new GT-R R36, cunningly disguised as a Ford Focus? You fiend!

 

[McClarenDesign]

...You fiend!

I prefer the term "anti-hero".

 

[Niku Driver HC]

I prefer the term "anti-hero".

What sort of "anti-hero"? Shadow the Hedgehog? Zechs Marquise?

 

[McClarenDesign]

What sort of "anti-hero"? Shadow the Hedgehog? Zechs Marquise?

This kind.

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[Vic Reign93]

I'm calling it now, Someone is going to complain about the dodgy 5th gear.

To the ones who don't know this, PD being PD made a mistake when inputting the ST's gear ratios causing 5th gear to be very long.

I prefer the term "anti-hero".

I think "Puckish Rouge" is better suited.

 

[McClarenDesign]

I'm calling it now, Someone is going to complain about the dodgy 5th gear.

To the ones who don't know this, PD being PD made a mistake when inputting the ST's gear ratios causing 5th gear to be very long.

How long is it? (BONUS race hint)

 

[Vic Reign93]

How long is it? (BONUS race hint)

Around the 4:00 mark is when he goes for 5th gear.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

This kind.

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A fair enough answer, Mr. Brad, I'll accept it. Does this mean you love chimichangas, by any chance?

I'm calling it now, Someone is going to complain about the dodgy 5th gear.

To the ones who don't know this, PD being PD made a mistake when inputting the ST's gear ratios causing 5th gear to be very long.

Oh PD, when will you learn how to beta test things before putting them out for the whole market to see? I actually never knew about that, and I am surprised to hear that it hasn't been fixed.

Ah well, hopefully the handling part isn't too broken, at least.

How long is it? (BONUS race hint)

Be careful with that bonus race, you may never know if a lion might come and strike you... Beware of latecomers, if you prefer.

 

[Draggon]

I'm calling it now, Someone is going to complain about the dodgy 5th gear.

To the ones who don't know this, PD being PD made a mistake when inputting the ST's gear ratios causing 5th gear to be very long.

The muffler appears to be made by Dyson 👎

 

[McClarenDesign]

The muffler appears to be made by Dyson 👎

I like the deep tone. The fact that you know what brand means you spend too much time looking at vacuum cleaners.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

I like the deep tone. The fact that you know what brand means you spend too much time looking at vacuum cleaners.

Now that was a strong blow, Mc. Man, I do hope this whole "PD hires former Forza sound guy" bit solves the sound issues, so that such an annoying complaint can finally bite the dust... Meanwhile, let's worry about the A.I. instead, shall we?

 

[lilcat89]

Now that was a strong blow, Mc. Man, I do hope this whole "PD hires former Forza sound guy" bit solves the sound issues, so that such an annoying complaint can finally bite the dust... Meanwhile, let's worry about the A.I. instead, shall we?

It won't happen overnight. I wouldn't expect any changes until GT7.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

It won't happen overnight. I wouldn't expect any changes until GT7.

Of course, I'm not expecting the fix to be immediate either. Not with PD's own reasoning, that is.

 

[McClarenDesign]

Off topic, I need one (uno, singular) volunteer.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

Off topic, I need one (uno, singular) volunteer.

A volunteer for what sort of aspect?

Oh wait, you probably don't want to put all the cards out right away. But does it involve the game itself?

 

[Draggon]

Off topic, I need one (uno, singular) volunteer.

There are no volunteers, only victims........

 

[lilcat89]

I think we should be allowed to fix the trans for Tuesday. Apparently, the Focus ST has a final gear for 1st to 4th and a separate final drive gear for 5th and 6th. Not totally PDs fault, but could have figured out the effective ratio. I found the corrected ratios. http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-...013-focus-st-featured-gran-turismo-6-a-5.html

 

[McClarenDesign]

There are no volunteers, only victims...

No, sadly this is serious.

A volunteer for what sort of aspect?

Oh wait, you probably don't want to put all the cards out right away. But does it involve the game itself?

Yes, it's game and thread related. First one to volunteer gets a PM with the details.

I think we should be allowed to fix the trans for Tuesday. Apparently, the Focus ST has a final gear for 1st to 4th and a separate final drive gear for 5th and 6th. Not totally PDs fault, but could have figured out the effective ratio. I found the corrected ratios. http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-...013-focus-st-featured-gran-turismo-6-a-5.html

Sadly there's no way to limit mods on Tuesday. I would definitely abuse the option.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

Yes, it's game and thread related. First one to volunteer gets a PM with the details.

Ok, I'll bite. Count me in. I want to be sure that it's something I can do.

 

[lilcat89]

Heck, I'll volunteer.

 

[McClarenDesign]

Ok, I'll bite. Count me in. I want to be sure that it's something I can do.

PM sent.

Heck, I'll volunteer.

Thanks for your willingness. It is noted and appreciated.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Ford Focus ST '13

2.0L
252 hp / 5,500 rpm
248 ft-lb / 2,500 rpm
1,462 kg (3,223 lbs)
429 pp

Ford Focus ST '06

2.5L
220 hp / 6,000 rpm
236 ft-lb / 2,000 rpm
1,430 kg (3,153 lbs)
415 pp

The new car makes 32 more horses, 12 more ft-lbs of torque, and weighs just 32 kg (70 lbs) more than the outgoing ST. It also has a smaller engine, by 0.5L, and now has doors for backseat passengers.

Mid-Field lap times on Comfort Soft tires.

1:27.186 - 429 - Ford Focus ST '13
1:28.304 - 415 - Ford Focus ST '06

A little more than 1 full second separates the old from the new.

What cars come close to the new ST?

1:26.718 - 423 - Honda S2000 '06
1:26.816 - 433 - Honda Mugen Motul Civic Si '87
1:26.850 - 415 - Spoon Integra Type R (DC2) '99
1:26.876 - 408 - Lotus Elise '96
1:26.920 - 438 - Subaru Legacy B4 Blitzen '00
1:26.975 - 403 - Opel Speedster '00
1:27.183 - 428 - SRT SRT4 '03
1:27.186 - 429 - Ford Focus ST '13
1:27.237 - 434 - Toyota Supra 2.5GT Twin Turbo R '90
1:27.309 - 395 - Hommell Berlinette R/S Coupe '99
1:27.342 - 423 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04
1:27.363 - 410 - Mercedes Benz 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evolution II '91
1:27.368 - 431 - Mitsubishi Eclipse GT '06
1:27.406 - 408 - Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 '85
1:27.444 - 428 - Audi S4 '98
1:27.460 - 417 - Chrysler Crossfire '04
1:27.530 - 414 - Honda Civic Type R '08
1:27.539 - 414 - Honda Civic Type R (EP) '04
1:27.572 - 410 - Honda Integra Type R (DC2) '99
1:27.613 - 439 - Mazda Mazdaspeed Atenza '05

The Focus ST '13 is a bigger, fatter Neon SRT4, and that's not a bad thing. I'll call this one a sleeper, but only barely.

It's too bad the Mazdaspeed 3 and VW Golf VI GTI weren't in the game, as they would make great rivals for the Focus.

 

[Thomas__633]

did you mean golf 7 suzuka?
also the MPS 3 isn't quite as fast (based on another game)
A better rival is the Golf R
I also reccomend an Elise '11 Suzuka

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Sure, the Golf VII GTI would be a great competitor! Golf R is 4WD, so I wouldn't count that.

And what game is the MS3 in?

 

[lilcat89]

Sure, the Golf VII GTI would be a great competitor! Golf R is 4WD, so I wouldn't count that.

And what game is the MS3 in?

Forza.

First impressions aren't good, I'm afraid. 4th gear is the highest useful gear. The lift off oversteer is ver welcome on entry, but the understeer on exit is not welcome at all. It also looks as though the LSD that the real car has, albeit electronic, didn't find its way into the game either. This car is a really badly replicated version. I will reserve judgement though until after Tuesday.

 

[Draggon]

Well, I didn't think I'd like it at all, based upon the sound. It handled fairly well, so I've been messing with it for the better part of today. I just couldn't tune the thing. I found a cardboard box tune to be the best overall, but it was missing something, for me anyway:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ake-posted-a-tune.292688/page-7#post-10095236

Then I decided to just throw some stuff at it and see what sticks. Nothing like I'd expect to work, but it does. A half second quicker around Deep Forest. Try it out!

450pp
SH tires, works with SM and SS
No oil change
No increased ridgidity

Suspension
72/60
4/5
6/6
2/3
0.0/0.0
0.00/-0.02

Racing brakes
3/2

Trans FCS not tuned

LSD
9/17/12
Standard clutch

Semi-racing exhaust
Power limiter 95%

Weight reduction stage 3
Carbon hood
Window weight reduction