Best car for Le Mans 30 minute 700 race?

[CoffeeCupAF]

So far I have been beating this race fairly easily in the Genesis G70 Gr.4 with minor adjustments. However, are there any other cars that are any better to do this race in? I was thinking maybe of getting the Toyota Supra GT500 97 but is it actually worth it if I already have a car that I can comfortably win the race with? Would the difference be noticeable or fairly similar? 1.8 mil is a lot to spend simply for a few seconds of time difference.

 

[Islaygaz]

Did this a couple times with an engine swapped R34. Fuel map 6 and you don’t need to pit for fuel or tyres (but only if you get lucky with the weather)

 

[BangsMcCoy]

Did this a couple times with an engine swapped R34. Fuel map 6 and you don’t need to pit for fuel or tyres (but only if you get lucky with the weather)

Bump TCS to max and set the differential split to 50/50 while the track is wet and you can stay out during all but the heaviest of rain on racing slicks.

 

[smoothbore12]

Did this a couple times with an engine swapped R34. Fuel map 6 and you don’t need to pit for fuel or tyres (but only if you get lucky with the weather)

R92CP ,787 and Porsche 962 are capable to do 7 laps at FM6 .
Was something that use to do but i quit that way since it depends prity much on the weather, so i went FM1 chasing best lap times at dry weather.

 

[Pizzapants]

You can win this race with practically any car. Don’t even understand why this thread has legs. Pick any car, give it a lot of HP, you win.

 

[smoothbore12]

You can win this race with practically any car. Don’t even understand why this thread has legs. Pick any car, give it a lot of HP, you win.

You might have right if you see it from that point of view.
But the same happens at the majority of lot events.

Anyway , its like complaining why some people have a favourite brand to buy shoes when all shoes do the same job.
At Tokyo thread happens the same , they win with swap cars , low hp cars , cheap cars , stock cars , fast cars and whatever can fit in the 600pp aerea.
Didn't notice someone complaining about it .
For example, personally i " hate " Tokyo but i admire the way that some guys try to put " spice" at that race from time to time.
I never thought why they do it like this when are way easier ways to win .

Lets say that this thread is for us who have " short " legs and small " foot " .

 

[GT PRO-AM]

Just yesterday I tested a Maserati MC20 that I would like to tune as a GT3, but which I was unable to bring (despite 510hp x 1,310kg and RM tyres) beyond 695.xx PP, so I thought of using it in this race. Very easy win. I also prepared a setup, very basic... It went like on rails. Very kind with the tires too... The only small problem, doing three laps per stint wasn't exactly easy, even on fuel map 6, I had to do lift and coast here and there. But I immediately recovered the "investment" made (300,000 Cr. for the car, + another 100,000 or more in tuning... then 825,000 Cr. as race reward, not bad!).

However, for all those who find this race boring, even if it pays well (this also applies to the 1 hour race at Spa-Francorchamps or to the race in Sardinia): try NOT to use proper racing cars, but rather to take road cars and tune them like GT3 or GT4 cars... Even without exaggerating with the hp. It makes everything much more challenging and if you win very rewarding and satisfying too.

 

[smoothbore12]

However, for all those who find this race boring, even if it pays well (this also applies to the 1 hour race at Spa-Francorchamps or to the race in Sardinia): try NOT to use proper racing cars, but rather to take road cars and tune them like GT3 or GT4 cars... Even without exaggerating with the hp. It makes everything much more challenging and if you win very rewarding and satisfying too.

i know exactly what you mean.
its what they do at Tokyo and Sartegna.
unfortunately only those two races have " standard " weather plus they're not time depending which is more important i guess.
Anyway that what it is like it or not.
Personally,am in the period that i want to take the maximum from what i use , chasing my tale for best outcome.
i don't like cars with two laps limit due to fuel consumption and I don't like fuel saving drive ( that might change in the future, nobody knows ) .
Of course they are many ways to add " spice " like what you said but time limit doesn't attract the " big boys " there plus weather can bring everything upside down, so ,faster , bigger, larger , cheaper etc. can't find the nesesery room to fit there as they do at Spa also .

Although it would be interesting among those who like that race , to make a " small" competition by using certain cars trying to pull out the best of them , sharing set ups and all that stuff.
The few months am on the game ,never find someone interesting about these things in that race even if many people run it every day .
usually they propose what they use and that's it , they don't want to look any further and i don't blame them.
Enough said and i don't wanna become the one who shouting in the wilderness.

 

[bigmull]

So far I have been beating this race fairly easily in the Genesis G70 Gr.4 with minor adjustments. However, are there any other cars that are any better to do this race in? I was thinking maybe of getting the Toyota Supra GT500 97 but is it actually worth it if I already have a car that I can comfortably win the race with? Would the difference be noticeable or fairly similar? 1.8 mil is a lot to spend simply for a few seconds of time difference.

If you want to drive something different that can win the Le Mans race,check out my Classic car tunes,you don’t have to spend a fortune on a lot of them,they sound great and are fun to drive,bare bones racing for a lot of them.check out my tunes in “The Doc’s Classic Car Tunes emporium “.Anything in there will win the race but some of them will need you to have a good pit strategy.

 

[GT5 Level 41]

Just yesterday I tested a Maserati MC20 that I would like to tune as a GT3, but which I was unable to bring (despite 510hp x 1,310kg and RM tyres) beyond 695.xx PP, so I thought of using it in this race. Very easy win. I also prepared a setup, very basic... It went like on rails. Very kind with the tires too... The only small problem, doing three laps per stint wasn't exactly easy, even on fuel map 6, I had to do lift and coast here and there. But I immediately recovered the "investment" made (300,000 Cr. for the car, + another 100,000 or more in tuning... then 825,000 Cr. as race reward, not bad!).

I tried this car today. Went with the 2 lap pit strategy. Rain was not as usual with light rain with no track change to clear skies then to heavy rain for the last two laps. Won by over 2 minutes.

 

[GT PRO-AM]

I tried this car today. Went with the 2 lap pit strategy. Rain was not as usual with light rain with no track change to clear skies then to heavy rain for the last two laps. Won by over 2 minutes.

Yes, the two-stop strategy is definitely the easiest to use with the MC20. To do three laps per stint, as I have already said, you need to stay on fuel map 6 (which in any case allows for considerable top speed... bear in mind that I have made a gear ratio which actually uses only 6 of the 8 gears, I found it more "racing" than the stock gearbox, the GT3s don't have more than 6 gears) and also lift and coast. I won by about the same margin, just a few seconds behind (1:56 lead if I'm not mistaken).

However, apart from the specific case of this Maserati: does anyone know what tuning can be tried to reduce fuel consumption? I read a while ago that increasing the bore and stroke could help, I tried it on a C8 Corvette but didn't notice any significant improvements. Has anyone done any other experiments?

 

[Batschisane52]

Yes, the two-stop strategy is definitely the easiest to use with the MC20. To do three laps per stint, as I have already said, you need to stay on fuel map 6 (which in any case allows for considerable top speed... bear in mind that I have made a gear ratio which actually uses only 6 of the 8 gears, I found it more "racing" than the stock gearbox, the GT3s don't have more than 6 gears) and also lift and coast. I won by about the same margin, just a few seconds behind (1:56 lead if I'm not mistaken).

However, apart from the specific case of this Maserati: does anyone know what tuning can be tried to reduce fuel consumption? I read a while ago that increasing the bore and stroke could help, I tried it on a C8 Corvette but didn't notice any significant improvements. Has anyone done any other experiments?

One thing that works for me:If you have to reduce the hp, using the ECU to reduce it yields better results for fuel-saving than using the power restrictor to lower the hp...
Another thing: Don't apply and use an anti lag system when you want to save fuel!

But I'm also open for any other tips for fuel saving besides short shifting and coasting...especially in the WTC800 races where you race against GR3 cars I am struggeling a lot with customized road cars because of their bad fuel consumption compared to the GR3 cars...

 

[BangsMcCoy]

Bumping up TCS also worked for me in the past. Not as significant on dry track conditions compared to wet, but still helps save some fuel when needed and no other options/settings left to use mid race. Not sure if any recent updates have changed that or not though, it’s been a few months since I’ve done that.

 

[Marneus_boss]

I made the race yesterday with the Alpine VGT detuned, the car is barely a 740pp, so 70% of power, with hard tyres and inter tyres.
Map 6 on lap 1 to save fuel, map 1 to come back for Lap 2, and the rain comes after soo

 

[Sithlord1978]

Has anyone tried the Toyota Crown Athlete with the Lexus engine swop. Just asking....😉

 

[Chikane_GTR]

Has anyone tried the Toyota Crown Athlete with the Lexus engine swop. Just asking....😉

Toyota Crown Athlete.

Really good car no extra HP and raced spec in the other areas.
Car is able to 8 lap the race.

Top speed -9
Acceleration - 8
Handling - 8
Braking - 7
Fuel Mapping - 6 Laps On FM 3






I got mess-up by rain on lap 6 so just ignore that lap.

 

[Sir Crashalot]

I have been using the Alfa Giulia GTAm upgraded to 700pp , start the race on inters , set the power to around 510bhp and weight to around 1250kg , gear it to around 330kmh and lift and coast, set to fuel 6 and lift and coast in the braking zones, easy money when you need it. No tyre swaps needed, 1 maybe 2 fuel stops depending how your coasting goes


I can get you the proper spec if it helps ?

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Is coasting still a thing to save fuel? Just wondering how much of a difference it makes since you can't coast when using a controller.

 

[hhhaaa]

So far I have been beating this race fairly easily in the Genesis G70 Gr.4 with minor adjustments. However, are there any other cars that are any better to do this race in? I was thinking maybe of getting the Toyota Supra GT500 97 but is it actually worth it if I already have a car that I can comfortably win the race with? Would the difference be noticeable or fairly similar? 1.8 mil is a lot to spend simply for a few seconds of time difference.

Nissan GT-R GRB

 

[Pizzapants]

Is coasting still a thing to save fuel? Just wondering how much of a difference it makes since you can't coast when using a controller.

???

 

[nickf1gr]

1968 Alpine 220 race car is very capable car with reasonable fuel consumption (3 laps with FM2) even in stock form.

 

[Sir Crashalot]

???

No clutch, no neutral.....am I missing something here?

 

[BangsMcCoy]

No clutch, no neutral.....am I missing something here?

Just the fact that you can coast using a controller. I’ve done it since day 1. It’s how I managed to get certain cars around LeMans on only 2 tanks of fuel.

 

[05XR8]

Finished 2nd in a stock Gr.4 Mazda3. I had to pit at the end of Lap 5, with a 25s lead, as the IW wore into red tips, in half a lap. Horrible tyre wear on IW. In a tow, top speed is 280km/h. Alone, about 255-260km/h. Fuel economy is great though. FM1 is good for 4.4Laps. RH tyre wear will have last me all race, if no rain.

 

[smoothbore12]

I think that the term " best " must cover some aspects cause right now is very undefined.
Usually we propose what we use to run , what we like to run for some period etc.
At this race can compete successfully more than the half cars of the game and what is remaining outside,is what can't fit to the 700pp regulation.
It's not like the mission races that we have very few cars to choose and propose.

So the term best need some clarification, best in what ?
Top speed ?
Handling ?
Fuel consumption ?
Fast lap times ?
Easiness of driving ?
A combination of those. ?

I think that how this thread started , now became more like what we use to run with.
For example,can't be best a gr4 car that need fuel saving for doing just 3 laps .
They are plenty of cars that can do it better or a lot better.
Can't be better a swapped road car that need half the straight to brake etc.etc.

My point is that any proposal, must be at least " best " to something without a doubt.
Otherwise there is hundreds of options to suggest.

Also is another thing asking for best car a new player and very different if someone playing the game too long and is familiar with many cars of the game .
Usually new players asking such a question cause the older players know very well what is best for them and might search for an alternative.

And to end this , for me the " best " can be only those cars that have all the above on the positive side and of course doesn't worth a fortune to buy them .

 

[05XR8]

If the best car costs a fortune, then it’s the best for doing this race. The best car that doesn’t cost a fortune, would then be most bang for your buck.

 

[smoothbore12]

If the best car costs a fortune, then it’s the best for doing this race. The best car that doesn’t cost a fortune, would then be most bang for your buck.

I have a friend that he believes McLaren F1 94 and GTR 95 are the "best "cars for him on that race.
And if it is for him why to disagree?
But you can't propose a car worth 20 millions just because you like it and serve YOUR purposes .
And after all are ain't the fastest, their fuel consumption is poor and definitely are not from the easiest to drive.
There's always a middle road, the road of the common sense.

And by the way best cars for me are the R92CP and the 787 even if i have a lot time to use them .
They are fast , great handling, excellent fuel consumption for 6 ,7 or 8 lap race with the minus you must wait to show up in lcd.

 

[p78]

In the category doesn't cost a fortune, both the RSR swapped Porsches.
They both great (no stop) on fuel (FM6 lap 1-4 FM5 4-7) and tire wear.
I find them easy to drive, and they require no tuning, just dropping the HP and adding weight depending on how much weight you removed. On a good run, i can sometimes catch the last driver (i'm an average racer)

 

[MatskiMonk]

No clutch, no neutral.....am I missing something here?

Just come off the power earlier, coast in gear into your braking zones. Over 7 laps it adds up, especially also if short shifting. I don't bother using my shifter/clutch for coasting, so I'm not sure how much more effective it would be.

 

[shadow0460]

Honest, for a fun ride, use the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe. That'll ease the wallet pain considerably.
I also had an outstanding ride in the Mustang Gr4 at Dragon Trail this weekend. The key there is light tuning, just enough to remove the boat anchors and make it work. I softened up the front and ran both RH and RS tires, no TCS or ASM.

 

[smoothbore12]

In the category doesn't cost a fortune, both the RSR swapped Porsches.
They both great (no stop) on fuel (FM6 lap 1-4 FM5 4-7) and tire wear.
I find them easy to drive, and they require no tuning, just dropping the HP and adding weight depending on how much weight you removed. On a good run, i can sometimes catch the last driver (i'm an average racer)

Can you specify the models , i run once the Cayman yesterday but wasn't impressed.
Maybe those you mention are better in this category.
Thanks.

 

[jrbabbitt]

Also is another thing asking for best car a new player and very different if someone playing the game too long and is familiar with many cars of the game .

IMHO the best car for beginners and others that want an "easy grind" of the WTC700 30 minutes would be the REDBULL Junior. It only costs 350K, and you can easily get 5-6 laps on ONE tank of fuel not needing to change tyres unless it rains hard.