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Best SPA Time
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I think we both no why dont we 
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I agree, I wish I could have seen that video before the TT! After watching that video I learned that I was shifting too much and too early. I'm still getting use to my new wheel after being a pad player all my life so I still have a lot to learn. But the good news out of all of this I can now get in the 203's about every third lap with the new shifting point
I also learned to finally race with all the assists off, the only assist I ever used was steering assist because I couldn't hardly keep it on the track unless I had it on. The problem was I had the wheel set to 270* because I like quick response. But trying elite with 270* is a handful, but soon as I changed it to 420* it was a night and day difference and became much easier to drive.
Well I was going retire Shift 2 but if there was enough interest we could run a Glendale East TT with the Zonda R, I know US-SR likes it much better than the Apollo
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I'm sorry Steve but still i don't get it. I think we are on two different pages here.
I agree, I wish I could have seen that video before the TT! After watching that video I learned that I was shifting too much and too early. I'm still getting use to my new wheel after being a pad player all my life so I still have a lot to learn. But the good news out of all of this I can now get in the 203's about every third lap with the new shifting point
As for the lap I'm still stuck in 2:04, so i think my car needs better suspension because I'm using gearing in 100% Also i use paddle shifters so down shift while breaking from 6th to 2nd takes me a little more time then just put gear straight from 6th to 2nd. Somehow i just can't use gear box, i don't like take my hands of the wheel even if it's just one hand.
Well I was going retire Shift 2 but if there was enough interest we could run a Glendale East TT with the Zonda R, I know US-SR likes it much better than the Apollo
Last time when i really pushed was Dubai Autodrome GP where in 911 Cup R i did 1:56.776 hoping to take another victory in Porsche World Series. But series died, and my interest in the game too. Did not have much time to practice Apollo on Spa and then could not be there. And F1 is coming soon so for me Shift 2 with it's bugs and freezes and finally no 3rd DLC is pretty much history now. I can't even force myself to finish career races and gather trophies.
Yes Zonda R is way much softer car 👍 than Gumpert but it's slower car. And somehow when i had a chance to drive fast, then who in the right mind would want to drive slow?
I'm not intend to get rid of my Shift 2 copy
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Ok nWcPL oh sorry i mean ussr, for some reason i keep getting you too mixed up nWcPL said i was cheating at Spa because in practice i run from the very top of the hill, i never did this in the event as i told him i dint need too. Ricky Zonda R Glendale West sound good mate:tup:
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Well I was going retire Shift 2 but if there was enough interest we could run a Glendale East TT with the Zonda R, I know US-SR likes it much better than the Apollo
I'm in 👍 ....... hell with that, buggy game or not it's the people who i'm racing with makes this game great! And you all fantastic and worth staying with
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I bought and tuned (Renown works) the Zonda R yesterday, and ran it on several tracks including Glendale West....probably my favourite.
I just couldn't get along with it at all.
Times weren't too bad, but it was just such a handful to drive, and not at all like the old Zonda on Shift1, which was always my car of choice for any of the Glendales, Ebisu, plus most street-type circuits.
I just couldn't get along with it at all.
Times weren't too bad, but it was just such a handful to drive, and not at all like the old Zonda on Shift1, which was always my car of choice for any of the Glendales, Ebisu, plus most street-type circuits.
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- RickyRacer1
I don't think it's possible for me to get into the 2:02 range range at SPA with the Apollo, after the TT and 50 laps later I felt pretty good just doing 2:03's. On a different note I'm not going to be able to do any more TT's in the immediate future, this is my busy time at work and it leaves no time for practice with Shift 
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Two corners decides whenever you do 2:02 or 2:03, you may loose from 0:00:500 up to 0:01:000 on last two chicanes and very last corner. I did very neat and tidy lines just like you and i did every time 2:03, but when decide to go wide and crazy i did gain a lot of time. That is the weirdest thing. You may drive all the corners perfectly and even last two also, but driving them differently will make crucial difference.
I'm sad to hear you must quit Shifting
I'm sad to hear you must quit Shifting
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New Spa time
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its far from boring, takes a lot to run that car that smooth trust me
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With those you can easy do on SPA 2:02, and strong consistent 2:03s.
Aero is set to maximum down-force, but you can loose 1 or 2 points to speed if you feel comfortable with Gumpert sliding here and there. But you will loose precious time. This is what you don't want to have. So in my opinion set them to MAX down-force, but then drive precisely, or learn how to do it. Otherwise you will stuck in some useless pattern of the same laps. Learning process is also fun so don't quit. I promise you that while you join 2:02 club you will be proud.
As for the gearing i work on those quite hard and come to this conclusion that maximum acceleration is the most important in this track. You use 6 gear in two places. On the long straight after EAU Rouge chicane and then again on long straight before OLD Bus Chicane.
So Set final Gear to 2 and then 6th gear to 1. I will give you right amount of Speed and also much needed acceleration. I think it's uses Gearbox in 100%. Maximum speed is 170 mph/ 171 mph. You could off course have more but then you will use more time to brake into LES Combes chicane, this way you may loose some precious time.
Also i use 2nd gear set to 1, in two corners which separate 2:02 lap from 2:03. Those are the last two corners, last BUS Stop chicane and last LA Source corner which you have to take very wide. If you set 2nd gear into 1 position then rear wheel will not slide and give you more traction.
Those are only pointers i could give You. When you go to time trial, set time to 1 minute, you need only one lap to do 2:02
Those are split times you may use as reference to your lap and progress.
S1: 0:32.798 32 seconds is the hard to get because of LES Combes corner, this is the place where you loose the most of your time. From breaking into corner, and having right amount of speed when driving precisely through that right left corners. It's tricky. Try to get close to 32 seconds as close as you can. This may be 33.160 / 33.200. But closer you will be to 32 seconds then you get it 👍
S2: 0:50.681 This section is really hard. You need speed, nothing else, just speed. Go as quick as you can and precise. Practice this section because if you don't have 1:23:900 / 1:24.200 while crossing second check point then you may start again entire lap.
S3: 0:38.640 Last one is probably second hardest after middle section.
Yes, second part of the track it's the hardest. This one because of last corners is second hardest. And this is the place where your 2:02 lap is separated from 2:03. Because you may all the time drive through first two parts of SPA identically and have exactly the same split times. This is the place when difference is made. In order to drive fast you will have to learn first two parts of the track perfectly !!! After that and only then you may start practice third one.
Once you cross second split time. You should have strong 1:23.900, from that point your lap depends of last two corners. You may drive neat and tidy. Then strong 1:23.xxx will appear on your time clock. Or you may practice much wide angle. Brake hard and down shift aggressive.
Good luck 👍
Aero is set to maximum down-force, but you can loose 1 or 2 points to speed if you feel comfortable with Gumpert sliding here and there. But you will loose precious time. This is what you don't want to have. So in my opinion set them to MAX down-force, but then drive precisely, or learn how to do it. Otherwise you will stuck in some useless pattern of the same laps. Learning process is also fun so don't quit. I promise you that while you join 2:02 club
you will be proud. As for the gearing i work on those quite hard and come to this conclusion that maximum acceleration is the most important in this track. You use 6 gear in two places. On the long straight after EAU Rouge chicane and then again on long straight before OLD Bus Chicane.
So Set final Gear to 2 and then 6th gear to 1. I will give you right amount of Speed and also much needed acceleration. I think it's uses Gearbox in 100%. Maximum speed is 170 mph/ 171 mph. You could off course have more but then you will use more time to brake into LES Combes chicane, this way you may loose some precious time.
Also i use 2nd gear set to 1, in two corners which separate 2:02 lap from 2:03. Those are the last two corners, last BUS Stop chicane and last LA Source corner which you have to take very wide. If you set 2nd gear into 1 position then rear wheel will not slide and give you more traction.
Those are only pointers i could give You. When you go to time trial, set time to 1 minute, you need only one lap to do 2:02
Those are split times you may use as reference to your lap and progress.
S1: 0:32.798 32 seconds is the hard to get because of LES Combes corner, this is the place where you loose the most of your time. From breaking into corner, and having right amount of speed when driving precisely through that right left corners. It's tricky. Try to get close to 32 seconds as close as you can. This may be 33.160 / 33.200. But closer you will be to 32 seconds then you get it 👍
S2: 0:50.681 This section is really hard. You need speed, nothing else, just speed. Go as quick as you can and precise. Practice this section because if you don't have 1:23:900 / 1:24.200 while crossing second check point then you may start again entire lap.
S3: 0:38.640 Last one is probably second hardest after middle section.
Yes, second part of the track it's the hardest. This one because of last corners is second hardest. And this is the place where your 2:02 lap is separated from 2:03. Because you may all the time drive through first two parts of SPA identically and have exactly the same split times. This is the place when difference is made. In order to drive fast you will have to learn first two parts of the track perfectly !!! After that and only then you may start practice third one.
Once you cross second split time. You should have strong 1:23.900, from that point your lap depends of last two corners. You may drive neat and tidy. Then strong 1:23.xxx will appear on your time clock. Or you may practice much wide angle. Brake hard and down shift aggressive.
Good luck 👍
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Many thanks for the very comprehensive and helpful reply. 👍
What I tried first (because I hadn't yet read your reply) was your original basic settings you gave me a few days ago, and that gave me a 2.04, and then I reduced the downforce to 13, increased tyre pressures to 33 all round because I felt confident with the corners, and also used 3 final drive.
All assists off except ABS.
I then just did a 4 minute Time Attack and got a 2.03....as shown below. (I use my son's profile, but times are mine as he doesn't play Shift).
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As always, I only have Autobox with downshift, because my upshift paddle is broken.
I'm confident I can improve on that.
- Wish I'd saved my split times now !
What I tried first (because I hadn't yet read your reply) was your original basic settings you gave me a few days ago, and that gave me a 2.04, and then I reduced the downforce to 13, increased tyre pressures to 33 all round because I felt confident with the corners, and also used 3 final drive.
All assists off except ABS.
I then just did a 4 minute Time Attack and got a 2.03....as shown below. (I use my son's profile, but times are mine as he doesn't play Shift).
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As always, I only have Autobox with downshift, because my upshift paddle is broken.
I'm confident I can improve on that.
- Wish I'd saved my split times now !
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Yes you can improve it by two seconds.
I wont stop until i go under 2:02.
In the meantime this is just a test of my new camera. Spa drive with telemetry.
And another run without telemetry. This is only camera test. I think picture quality is decent enought. 👍
I wont stop until i go under 2:02.
In the meantime this is just a test of my new camera. Spa drive with telemetry.
And another run without telemetry. This is only camera test. I think picture quality is decent enought. 👍
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looks great, sweet lap too:tup: So will you be recording some of the diehard TT + races events? Would be great to see some live races:tup:
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Brilliant lap, ussr! You really nailed the eau rouge and the bus stop! 👍
I m not a fan on running wide on the curves before and after bus stop, tbh. But I guess for outlandish times like yours and the Steves, you gotta do that. If you are not too proud to take advice from a much slower racer: You can be more agressive on Turn Nr.9 and take it earlier, maybe there you can find some time on your quest for sub 2:02.
I m not a fan on running wide on the curves before and after bus stop, tbh. But I guess for outlandish times like yours and the Steves, you gotta do that. If you are not too proud to take advice from a much slower racer: You can be more agressive on Turn Nr.9 and take it earlier, maybe there you can find some time on your quest for sub 2:02.
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Yes, I'll will record all of our meetings from now:tup:
Thank you
1. Running wide on mus stop is that crucial key that separates 2:03 from 2:02
2. I'll take every single advice i can find 👍 I've been driving through Turn Nr. 9 avoiding inside curb because I'm worry if my suspension together with front wing can take such sudden bump. If not then I'll spin. But i will try to be more aggressive there.
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This make me wonder. If i can do this, then what could be possible with Veyron Works 
......... time to find out 
Updated tune can be found in Renown Tuning Unleashed thread
......... time to find out Updated tune can be found in Renown Tuning Unleashed thread
