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[Thorin Cain]

1.09 Physics/Camber Test​

Using the tune posted above, I decided to test camber after 1.09 update. I ran 5 laps at Silverstone GP first to get familiar with the car and then to Silverstone International for the test. Tune was build originally months ago and not the same since the update although I have not driven in a month atleast.

Original tune as posted above - 5 laps - 1:06.439
Original tune with suspension only defaulted - 5 laps - 1:06.747 (did run a red lap at 1:06.436)
Toe changed to 0.00 / 0.04 - 5 laps - 1:06.238 (still default suspension camber 0.5 / 1.5)
Camber 0.0 / 0.0 - 5 laps - 1:06.331 - noticed slow corner exit looser, understeer since default change
Camber 0.0 / 0.5 - 5 laps - 1:06.710 - not sure what happened, driver error?
Camber 0.5 / 0.5 - 5 laps - 1:06.305 - understeer and slow exit improved
Camber 0.5 / 1.0 - 5 laps - 1:06.254 - slow exit even better
Camber 1.0 / 0.5 - 5 laps - 1.06.259 - Felt even better
Camber 1.0 / 1.0 - 3 laps - 1:06.011 - slight oversteer on slow corner exit returned?

red lapped 2 more, got distracted
​

Back to original tune........
Camber 0.5 / 1.5 - 5 laps - 1:06.083 (Push on high speed turns, needs front toe!)
Camber 0.5 / 1.0 - 5 laps - 1:05.846 (closer to previous average and feel pre 1.09)
Camber 1.0 / 0.5 - 5 laps - 1:05.764 (Best feel, most consistent all around through the test)
Camber 1.0 / 1.0 - 5 laps - 1:06.128 (understeer mid-corner, loose off. DID NOT like the feel of these

settings. Had to really work to keep up with ghost from 1.0 / 0.5)​

Camber 1.5 / 1.0 - 5 laps - 1:05.822 (Better turn in- had to change braking points. Better mid corner

speed allowed a little high speed exit looseness.​

Camber 1.0 / 1.5 - 5 laps - 1:05.890 (most laps were 1:06.400 or worse, rear had more grip but added

more understeer(?). Again, hard to keep up with ghost)​

Camber 2.0 / 1.5 - 5 laps - 1:06.131 (Seems to have gone too far with front camber, rear good grip.

TOO tight in mid-high speed corners. Brakes much worse, earlier reguired.​

Camber 0.0 / 0.0 - 7 laps - 1:05.710 (decided to finish where I started. Fastest lap time. Faster than

ghost for first half of the lap, then behind consistently. Better final section made it faster. Was set on lap 6, lap 7 was 1:06.690 caused by rear loose on exit.)

​

What I have noticed so far: brakes decline with front camber
front camber helps grip mid-high speed corners but slower in slow corners
Rear camber helps exit on slow corners, might aide in mid-high speed corners.
Obviously, 0.60 rear toe helps stability and corner exit but hurts rotation overall.
Rear toe at 0.04 helps rotation but needs help to control slow corner exit.
The car feels better and more consistent with front camber higher than rear.

Default settings:
Ride Height - 110 / 110
Springs - 7.12 / 7.98
Comp - 3 / 3
Ext - 3 / 3
ARB - 3 / 3
Camber - 0.5 / 1.5
Toe - 0.00 / 0.60

Conclusion​

Does camber make you faster, that is the question? The answer is NO and Yes. By itself no, however you can feel gains with it as well as loses. Mid-corner grip goes up with front camber, exit grip with rear. Braking suffers if you go too high with the front. Lap times are not the best way to judge, feel is. This test allowed me to feel each change and I had to adjust to each. The tune did not like the rear higher than the front or equal to it. It always felt better with the front higher than the rear. I suspect this would be the opposite with a MR car. I also suspect (and will have to test) that harder tires, i.e.; comfort soft/sport hard would like less camber and softer tires, RH-RS would like more. Braking becomes a big issue and with tires having less grip to begin with, you would really need to brake earlier and lap times would suffer. Tires with more grip would handle more before noticing(just a theory right now).
The use of camber as an aide for certain handling issues will make a tune faster in parts of the track and slower in others. A 0.0 camber tune may still be faster for a given lap!!! but over a span of laps, I believe the consistency with would win out. Camber can definitely now be used to improve a tune whereas in 1.08, it would hinder.
For me, somewhere around 1.0/0.5 is the sweet spot and I would build from there with this car. Building a tune from scratch and using camber would be more beneficial than just adding camber. This car was tuned for 0.0/0.0, with camber it may need a few tweaks to make the car better. I would suggest trying this tune at 0.0 and than with 1.0/0.5 for yourself and see if you feel the difference. As for me, I will be using camber going forward until I hear results from @Motor City Hami with his testing. Better more clear tester than myself, very thorough as we all know and trust.

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Great test and super data Bowtie! 👍

I've not had a lot of time to test properly due to other commitments, but what I have done so far pretty much goes along with your findings. I run more MR cars and you're right on the money, just about every one I've tried is better with higher rear camber.

 

[Otaliema]

Great data sir, i've been too tired due to lack of sleep to really test the last week. My youngest is not sleeping great and my oldest is getting up earlier ugg.

Just an oberservation on the MR Elise '11 i tuned it liked higher front camber for feel and consistancy. and as your tests showed less than half a degree was the key.
tune Elise '11 550PP Sports tires

*edit corrected auto incorrect mistake thanks shaunm for pointing it out

 

[shaunm80]

Great data sir, i've been too tired due to lack of sleep to really test the last week. My youngest is not sleeping great and my oldest is getting up earlier ugg.

Just an oberservation on the MR Elise '11 i tuned it liked higher front camber for feel and consistancy. and as your testes showed less than half a degree was the key.
tune Elise '11 550PP Sports tires

Is it normal to talk about ones reproduction system in this forum? I know theres a lot of men that visit this site but lets not exclude the women from this conversation.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Is it normal to talk about ones reproduction system in this forum? I know theres a lot of men that visit this site but lets not exclude the women from this conversation.

I'm sure that's his phone.

 

[brian wolf]

1.09 Physics/Camber Test​

Using the tune posted above, I decided to test camber after 1.09 update. I ran 5 laps at Silverstone GP first to get familiar with the car and then to Silverstone International for the test. Tune was build originally months ago and not the same since the update although I have not driven in a month atleast.

Original tune as posted above - 5 laps - 1:06.439
Original tune with suspension only defaulted - 5 laps - 1:06.747 (did run a red lap at 1:06.436)
Toe changed to 0.00 / 0.04 - 5 laps - 1:06.238 (still default suspension camber 0.5 / 1.5)
Camber 0.0 / 0.0 - 5 laps - 1:06.331 - noticed slow corner exit looser, understeer since default change
Camber 0.0 / 0.5 - 5 laps - 1:06.710 - not sure what happened, driver error?
Camber 0.5 / 0.5 - 5 laps - 1:06.305 - understeer and slow exit improved
Camber 0.5 / 1.0 - 5 laps - 1:06.254 - slow exit even better
Camber 1.0 / 0.5 - 5 laps - 1.06.259 - Felt even better
Camber 1.0 / 1.0 - 3 laps - 1:06.011 - slight oversteer on slow corner exit returned?

red lapped 2 more, got distracted
​

Back to original tune........
Camber 0.5 / 1.5 - 5 laps - 1:06.083 (Push on high speed turns, needs front toe!)
Camber 0.5 / 1.0 - 5 laps - 1:05.846 (closer to previous average and feel pre 1.09)
Camber 1.0 / 0.5 - 5 laps - 1:05.764 (Best feel, most consistent all around through the test)
Camber 1.0 / 1.0 - 5 laps - 1:06.128 (understeer mid-corner, loose off. DID NOT like the feel of these

settings. Had to really work to keep up with ghost from 1.0 / 0.5)​

Camber 1.5 / 1.0 - 5 laps - 1:05.822 (Better turn in- had to change braking points. Better mid corner

speed allowed a little high speed exit looseness.​

Camber 1.0 / 1.5 - 5 laps - 1:05.890 (most laps were 1:06.400 or worse, rear had more grip but added

more understeer(?). Again, hard to keep up with ghost)​

Camber 2.0 / 1.5 - 5 laps - 1:06.131 (Seems to have gone too far with front camber, rear good grip.

TOO tight in mid-high speed corners. Brakes much worse, earlier reguired.​

Camber 0.0 / 0.0 - 7 laps - 1:05.710 (decided to finish where I started. Fastest lap time. Faster than

ghost for first half of the lap, then behind consistently. Better final section made it faster. Was set on lap 6, lap 7 was 1:06.690 caused by rear loose on exit.)

​

What I have noticed so far: brakes decline with front camber
front camber helps grip mid-high speed corners but slower in slow corners
Rear camber helps exit on slow corners, might aide in mid-high speed corners.
Obviously, 0.60 rear toe helps stability and corner exit but hurts rotation overall.
Rear toe at 0.04 helps rotation but needs help to control slow corner exit.
The car feels better and more consistent with front camber higher than rear.

Default settings:
Ride Height - 110 / 110
Springs - 7.12 / 7.98
Comp - 3 / 3
Ext - 3 / 3
ARB - 3 / 3
Camber - 0.5 / 1.5
Toe - 0.00 / 0.60

Conclusion​

Does camber make you faster, that is the question? The answer is NO and Yes. By itself no, however you can feel gains with it as well as loses. Mid-corner grip goes up with front camber, exit grip with rear. Braking suffers if you go too high with the front. Lap times are not the best way to judge, feel is. This test allowed me to feel each change and I had to adjust to each. The tune did not like the rear higher than the front or equal to it. It always felt better with the front higher than the rear. I suspect this would be the opposite with a MR car. I also suspect (and will have to test) that harder tires, i.e.; comfort soft/sport hard would like less camber and softer tires, RH-RS would like more. Braking becomes a big issue and with tires having less grip to begin with, you would really need to brake earlier and lap times would suffer. Tires with more grip would handle more before noticing(just a theory right now).
The use of camber as an aide for certain handling issues will make a tune faster in parts of the track and slower in others. A 0.0 camber tune may still be faster for a given lap!!! but over a span of laps, I believe the consistency with would win out. Camber can definitely now be used to improve a tune whereas in 1.08, it would hinder.
For me, somewhere around 1.0/0.5 is the sweet spot and I would build from there with this car. Building a tune from scratch and using camber would be more beneficial than just adding camber. This car was tuned for 0.0/0.0, with camber it may need a few tweaks to make the car better. I would suggest trying this tune at 0.0 and than with 1.0/0.5 for yourself and see if you feel the difference. As for me, I will be using camber going forward until I hear results from @Motor City Hami with his testing. Better more clear tester than myself, very thorough as we all know and trust.

​

Excellent work! 👍 Nicely summed up! 👍

 

[Otaliema]

Is it normal to talk about ones reproduction system in this forum? I know theres a lot of men that visit this site but lets not exclude the women from this conversation.

*face palm* gotta love auto incorrect

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

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Pending tunes
458 600pp
M4
M3
Cobra R
Grand National
SSR
SST Concept
Tesla Signature S
Miura
LFA
LFA Nurb Package


Above list of tunes are either done and are waiting to be posted or are close to being done. They will be removed when posted.
I will either continue to use this post for future pending tunes or will use it to post a tune.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

FITT Viper Strike Tuning Challenge​

Viper GTS '13​

Lightning Blue Metallic
Ray's 57Xtreme inch up 1 (GT Chrome 009-N)
Aero Type C, Flat Floor, Other Part B
Custom Wing: Mount F, Wing C, Winglet C, Height +0, Width +0
PP:630 // HP: 750
WEIGHT: 1300kg // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 50:50
TIRE(S): Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 95 / 95
SPRINGS - 10.75 / 11.75
COMP - 5 / 7
EXT - 7 / 6
ARB - 3 / 4
CAMBER - 1.4 / 0.7
TOE - -0.18 / 0.02
BRAKES - 6 / 7

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 149
1ST - 2.685
2ND - 1.900
3RD - 1.460
4TH - 1.185
5TH - 0.995
6TH - 0.855
FINAL - 3.600

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 8
ACCEL - 14
DECEL - 16

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes


POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 1
COMPUTER - no
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - Isometric
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - no
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 97.1%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 55KG @ 0
DOWNFORCE - 10

NOTE: This tune does not like too much second gear, try not to use as third gear will do you just fine.
Fastest lap in tuning was 1:25.357, only used 2nd gear once. If you need to use 2nd to go faster, try short shifting into 3rd out of slow corners to tame wheel spin.

Trial Mountain
Lap Time Average - 7th( .505 behind 3rd, .776 behind 1st)
Driver's Choice - 8th

This is a good tune that I am overall happy with, some of the lap times testers got out of it were faster than me.....unfortunately I ran into some tuners who were just faster.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

FITT Viper Strike Reviews:​

by iainoflo85 -

Bowtie-Muscle:

1:24.565

Very much what I was expecting a Viper to be like, not too loose, very nice in the corners but was not able to be as smooth as with Brian Wolf's which was pretty similar.

DC - 8


by Lionheart2113 -

Bowtie-muscle
Good tune with a high level of comfort, except for the wheelie on the backstretch! Tapping the throttle coming out of 2nd gear corners helped keep the back in check since I can't short shift in automatic.
Lap Time: 1:24.276
DC Score: 8.5


by biffa3 -

@@Bowtie-muscle
Time - 1:25:811
DC - 8.5
Very stable car. Touch of oversteer on corner exit if mashing the go button. Deserved a better time.


by Otaliema -

1. @Bowtie-muscle | Tune here
   
   Lap time; 1:27.491 Drivers Choice; 7
   
   Impressions of the tune; I couldn’t quite seem to keep this car going in straight on an aggressive exit. I would always lose the tail. Had great turn in and grip through the corners. Was stable at speed and under braking.

by brian wolf:


@@Bowtie-muscle
Time - 1:25.369
DC - 7

This tune rides the bumps nicely, turns in nice, with a little understeer mid corner and will try to kill you on exit
if you`re not gentle on the loud pedal! But, good fun. Just not as easy as some to lay down some tidy laps. Well done.


by ImToLegitToQuit -


@@Bowtie-muscle 1:24.863 DC-8

- the car was very predictable overall and had very useable gearing. 3rd,4th,and 5th are the meat for the track and they were nearly perfectly matched to the power. I had a bit of exit understeer and had to wait a bit longer than i wanted to get back on the gas. Both of those (small) gripes probably would have disappeared with a higher accell setting.
- the car felt great and behaved as expected.


Rules
Tunes and reviews list

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Chevelle SS 454 '70​

Fathom Blue Metallic
American Racing VINTAGE TORQ THRUST inch up2

PP: 525 // HP: 532
WEIGHT: 1306kg // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54.46
TIRE(S): Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No?
Rigidity Improvement - Yes

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 95 / 100
SPRINGS - 11.75 / 6.00
COMP - 4 / 4
EXT - 5 / 6
ARB - 3 / 2
CAMBER - 0.2 / 0.0
TOE - -0.22 / 0.04
BRAKES - 8 / 7

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.500 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 2.725
2ND - 1.865
3RD - 1.415
4TH - 1.145
5TH - 0.955
FINAL - 3.400

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 7
ACCEL - 12
DECEL - 14

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes


POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - no
COMPUTER - Yes
EXHAUST - Sports
MANIFOLD - no
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Yes
INTAKE TUNING - Yes
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 98.0%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT -Yes

BALLAST - 0
DOWNFORCE - n/a

NOTE: Old and heavy, use throttle control, tuned for Big Willow

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Nova SS '70
Misty Turquoise Metallic
American Racing VINTAGE TORQ THRUST inch up 1
Aero Type-A
Rigidity Improvement

PP: 525 // HP: 506
WEIGHT: 1272 // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54:46
TIRE(S): SM/SS
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 95 / 100
SPRINGS - 10.50 / 5.25
COMP - 4 / 5
EXT - 8 / 6
ARB - 3 / 3
CAMBER - 0.4 / 0.0
TOE - -0.12 / 0.05
BRAKES - 6 / 5

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 2.950
2ND - 2.050
3RD - 1.565
4TH - 1.250
5TH - 1.020
FINAL - 3.150

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 7
ACCEL - 12
DECEL - 10

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: n/a

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 2
COMPUTER - no
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - no
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - no
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 95.3%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 0
DOWNFORCE - n/a

NOTE:

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

El Camino SS 396 '67
​

Enkei 5 Spoke inch up 2
Other - Part B
Rigidity Improvement
PP: 525 // HP: 508
WEIGHT: 1250 // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54:46
TIRE(S): SS
OIL CHANGE - NO

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 95 / 100
SPRINGS - 10.25 / 5.00
COMP - 5 / 3
EXT - 7 / 4
ARB - 2 / 4
CAMBER - 1.0 / 0.5
TOE - -0.15 / 0.15
BRAKES - 6 / 7

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 2.785
2ND - 1.945
3RD - 1.475
4TH - 1.175
5TH - 0.965
6TH - n/a
7TH - n/a
FINAL - 3.000

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 7
ACCEL - 14
DECEL - 8

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: n/a

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 2
COMPUTER - no
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - Isometric
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - no
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 100%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 47kg @ 0
DOWNFORCE - n/a

NOTE: This car really might just be out of it's range for the "Sweet Spot", you may also try to lower the power Down to 500pp and give her a run.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

​

Corvette Stingray Convertible (C3) '69
​

Enkei 5 Spoke inch up 1
Aero Type A
Custom Wing Type-A
PP: 500 // HP: 367
WEIGHT: 1242 // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54:46
TIRE(S): Sport Hard-Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 90 / 95
SPRINGS - 10.50 / 6.50
COMP - 4 / 6
EXT - 7 / 5
ARB - 3 / 4
CAMBER - 0.0 / 0.0
TOE - -0.15 / 0.05
BRAKES - 5 / 6

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 2.820
2ND - 1.935
3RD - 1.450
4TH - 1.165
5TH - 0.975
FINAL - 3.000

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 7
ACCEL - 12
DECEL - 10

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: n/a

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 2
COMPUTER - no
EXHAUST - Semi-Racing
MANIFOLD - Standard
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - no
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 98.7%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 0
DOWNFORCE - 0 / 5

Note:

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

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Corvette Stingray Convertible (C3) '69
​

Monza Red(Thanks PD for the Birthday Present-yeah, I'm that old)
Aero Type A
Custom Wing Type A
American Racing VINTAGE TORQ THRUST or Enkei 5 Spoke (inch up 1)

PP: 525 // HP: 438
WEIGHT: 1242 // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54:46
TIRE(S): Sport Medium/Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 95 / 100
SPRINGS - 11.50 / 6.50
COMP - 5 / 6
EXT - 7 / 5
ARB - 3 / 4
CAMBER - 0.0 / 0.0
TOE - -0.18 / 0.06
BRAKES - 5 / 6

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 2.820
2ND - 1.920
3RD - 1.450
4TH - 1.165
5TH - 0.975
FINAL - 3.000

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 8
ACCEL - 12
DECEL - 10

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: n/a

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 3
COMPUTER - no
EXHAUST - Semi-Racing
MANIFOLD - Standard
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - Tuned
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 99.9%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 0
DOWNFORCE - 0 / 5

NOTE: Even at only 525pp, will easily win 550pp Laguna Seasonal, IF you watch your rearview mirror AI love to over shoot corners and try to take you out.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Impreza Coupe 22B-STi Version '98​

PP: 525 // HP: 429
WEIGHT: 1050kg // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54:46
TIRE(S): Sport Medium/Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 110 / 110
SPRINGS - 6.25 / 6.00
COMP - 3 / 6
EXT - 6 / 5
ARB - 3 / 4
CAMBER - 0.8 / 0.4
TOE - -0.15 / -0.05
BRAKES - 4 / 5

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 6.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 2.465
2ND - 1.825
3RD - 1.470
4TH - 1.230
5TH - 1.055
6TH - 0.910
FINAL - 3.700

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 7 / 7
ACCEL - 22 / 20
DECEL - 6 / 7

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: Installed @ 40:60

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 1
COMPUTER - Standard
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - Standard
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - Standard
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - High RPM Turbo
POWER LIMITER - 100%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Body Color
WINDOW WEIGHT - Installed

BALLAST - 11kg @ 0
DOWNFORCE - n/a

NOTE:

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Impreza Coupe WRX Type R STi Version VI '99​

Pure White
OZ Racing Ultraleggera inch up 1

PP: 500 // HP: 356
WEIGHT: 1100 // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54:46
TIRE(S): Sport Hard-Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 115 / 115
SPRINGS - 6.25 / 5.75
COMP - 4 / 5
EXT - 5 / 6
ARB - 3 / 5
CAMBER - 0.8 / 0.4
TOE - -0.15 / -0.05
BRAKES - 6 / 4

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 6.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 2.605
2ND - 1.930
3RD - 1.545
4TH - 1.300
5TH - 1.105
6TH - 0.960
FINAL - 3.890

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 5 / 6
ACCEL - 22 / 20
DECEL - 6 / 8

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: Yes - 50:50

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - no
COMPUTER - no
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - no
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - no
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - High RPM Turbo
POWER LIMITER - 93.9%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 2
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 19kg @+20
DOWNFORCE - n/a

NOTE:

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Impreza WRX Sti Prodrive Style (Type I) '01
​

Pure White
Ray's RE30 inch up 1

PP: 525 // HP: 438
WEIGHT: 1200 // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54:46
TIRE(S): Sport Medium/Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 110 / 105
SPRINGS - 6.25 / 6.75
COMP - 3 / 4
EXT - 6 / 5
ARB - 3 / 4
CAMBER - 1.0 / 0.5
TOE - -0.18 / -0.05
BRAKES - 5 / 6

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.500 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 3.110
2ND - 2.305
3RD - 1.855
4TH - 1.555
5TH - 1.330
6TH - 1.170
FINAL - 3.450

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 7 / 7
ACCEL - 18 / 16
DECEL - 6 / 8

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: Yes - 40:60

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 2
COMPUTER - Sports
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - no
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - no
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - High RPM Turbo
POWER LIMITER - 97.6%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 29kg @+25
DOWNFORCE - n/a

NOTE: UPDATED April 16, 2015, changed from 515pp to 525pp!

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Impreza Sedan WRX STi (Type II) '02
​

Pure White
OZ Racing Ultraleggera inch up 1

PP: 525 // HP: 432
WEIGHT: 1200 // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 54:46
TIRE(S): Sport Medium/Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 105 / 100
SPRINGS - 6.25 / 7.15
COMP - 4 / 5
EXT - 6/ 4
ARB - 3 / 5
CAMBER - 0.8 / 0.4
TOE - -0.12 / -0.05
BRAKES - 6 / 6

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.500 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 3.240
2ND - 2.350
3RD - 1.855
4TH - 1.555
5TH - 1.325
6TH - 1.155
FINAL - 3.500

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 7 / 7
ACCEL - 18 / 16
DECEL - 5 / 7

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: Yes - 40:60

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 1
COMPUTER - Sports
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - Isometric
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - Standard
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - High RPM Turbo
POWER LIMITER - 98.1%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 20kg @ 0
DOWNFORCE - n/a

NOTE: UPDATED April 16, 2015, changed from 515pp to 525pp.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Suzuki GSX-R/4 '01
​

PP: 500 // HP: 249
WEIGHT: 790kg // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 53:47
TIRE(S): Sport Hard
OIL CHANGE - No?(Believe Not)
Custom Wing - Mount E, Wing C, Winglet C, Height and Width both +0

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 75 / 80
SPRINGS - 5.50 / 6.50
COMP - 4 / 7
EXT - 6 / 5
ARB - 3 / 5
CAMBER - 0.0 / 0.0
TOE - 0.10 / 0.20
BRAKES - 6 / 5

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 6.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 4.240
2ND - 3.040
3RD - 2.360
4TH - 1.910
5TH - 1.610
6TH - 1.390
FINAL - 4.200

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 10
ACCEL - 12
DECEL - 18

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: N/A
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: n/a

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 3
COMPUTER - Sports
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - Isometric
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - Yes
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 99.5%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Standard
CARBON HOOD - Standard
WINDOW WEIGHT - Standard

BALLAST - 150kg @-30
DOWNFORCE - 5

NOTE: Not my best track but was ranked 382(and dropping like a rock I'm sure) with this tune at Bathhurst Seasonal. Made mistakes as well, better driver should get lower. Guaranteed Gold DS3!!

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Scirocco R '10
Hot Hatch Tuning Challenge​

Laguna Blue Tintcoat
Inch up 1 OZ Racing Ultraleggera
Rims painted GT Chrome 009-N
Aero Type A
NO OIL CHANGE

299hp, 1240kg, 470pp, 49:51 Wgt Dist, Sports Hard tires

Parts Installed:
Full - Suspension, Trans, LSD
Racing Brakes, Triple-Plate Clutch
Racing Exhaust, Sports Catalytic Converter
High RPM Turbo
Weight Reduction Stage 3, Carbon Hood, Window Weight Reduction

Suspension:
Ride Height - 105 / 90
Springs - 6.50 / 7.50
Comp - 2 / 3
Ext - 5 / 4
ARB - 4 / 3
Camber - 0.0 / 0.0
Toe - -0.10 / -0.25
Brakes - 4 / 6

Trans:
Final to 6.000, Top Speed to 124, Then
1st - 2.490
2nd - 1.760
3rd - 1.365
4th - 1.110
5th - 0.945
6th - 0.825
Final - 4.200

LSD:
Initial - 8
Accel - 18
Decel - 5

Ballast 85kg @ +50
Power Limiter 89.0%

Lap Time Ayg. - 3rd (.365 behind 1st)
Driver Choice - 8.0 (6th)
Brands Hatch GP rules

**Have been toying with redoing this tune and have it in the works, watch for Version II**

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Scirocco R FITT Hot Hatch Challenge reviews: ​

by Otaliema:


@Bowtie-muscle - Scirocco R '10

Fastest Lap;1:39.580 Drivers Choice; 8.5

Impressions of the tune; This car was light on it’s feet so to speak, almost to light, it had great turn in and grip on entry-mid corner, I found exit grip a little on the light side. I did find that this car didn't like having it’s tail tapped on curbs. I had more than a few great laps go out the window cause I tapped the tail on a curb. I found the TLOR hard to control in this car, it either didn't happen or happened so fast I spun the car. I could tell there was more in this car I just couldn't find it, maybe a better driver will. The LSD was done very with this car, allowed for great turn in and control on exit. But caused mid corner understeer.



by backnfourth:


@@Bowtie-muscle
Fast Lap: 1:38.072
DC: 7
Comments: The most fun and probably most consistent through turn 1 and always good sector 1 times. Steep learning curve. Braking was solid and helped with corner entry. Mid corner slide could be unpredictable and over rotate at times and getting on the throttle would turn the outer front tire red. When rotation was manageable corner exit was tight and with good speed. The back end just felt too floaty to be consistent.



by Bowtie-muscle:


@@Bowtie-muscle

1:38.223 DC - 8.5
Too soft on the dampers. Too long to get used to the tune after driving the others but still fast.
10 Laps chasing Hami' ghost and couldn't hold on.

**{I do not feel comfortable rating my own tune}**



by Pete05:


@@Bowtie-muscle VW Scirocco
1:37:406 DC 8.5
A little on the loose side but good rotation. Corner exit traction was very on edge but fast if you're careful.



by biffa3:


@@Bowtie-muscle - Scirocco R '10
Time - 1:39:510
DC - 7.5
Turn in bordering on oversteer here, but it does give you confidence to brake late and get on the power early, because you know it's going to get through the corner.


Full list of reviews
Scoring

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Scirocco R '10
*Version II*​

Laguna Blue Tintcoat
Inch up 1 OZ Racing Ultraleggera
Rims painted GT Chrome 009-N
Aero Type A
NO OIL CHANGE

298hp, 1240kg, 470pp, 52:48 Wgt Dist, Sports Hard tires

Parts Installed:
Full - Suspension, Trans, LSD
Racing Brakes, Triple-Plate Clutch
Racing Exhaust, Sports Catalytic Converter
High RPM Turbo
Weight Reduction Stage 3, Carbon Hood, Window Weight Reduction

Suspension:
Ride Height - 105 / 90
Springs - 6.50 / 8.50
Comp - 3 / 6
Ext - 7 / 5
ARB - 3 / 4
Camber - 0.0 / 0.0
Toe - -0.10 / -0.25
Brakes - 4 / 7

Trans:
Final to 6.000, Top Speed to 124, Then
1st - 2.270
2nd - 1.665
3rd - 1.325
4th - 1.105
5th - 0.955
6th - 0.840
Final - 4.200 (Adjust here)

LSD:
Initial - 11
Accel - 18
Decel - 6

Ballast 85kg @ +10
Power Limiter 88.9%

Note: Tried to stiffin car up compared to original version, retested @Brands Hatch GP - Grip set to real. Wheel spin on this car is still present but less, still can be a tick loose(I like it this way) but less also. Can lose back end on curbs if not careful (sorry). During testing for the Hot Hatch Challenge my best time was 1:37.955, with adjustments I ran a 1:38.019 after only 5 laps. Way fewer than during tuning for the challenge. Might not have mattered for lap time but might have improved Driver Choice Score.

 

[cbarbosa]

Suzuki GSX-R/4 '01
PP: 500 // HP: 249
WEIGHT: 790kg // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 53:47
TIRE(S): Sport Hard
OIL CHANGE - No?(Believe Not)
Custom Wing - Mount E, Wing C, Winglet C, Height and Width both +0

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 75 / 80
SPRINGS - 5.50 / 6.50
COMP - 4 / 7
EXT - 6 / 5
ARB - 3 / 5
CAMBER - 0.0 / 0.0
TOE - 0.10 / 0.20
BRAKES - 6 / 5

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 6.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 4.240
2ND - 3.040
3RD - 2.360
4TH - 1.910
5TH - 1.610
6TH - 1.390
FINAL - 4.200

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 10
ACCEL - 12
DECEL - 18

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: N/A
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: n/a

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 3
COMPUTER - Sports
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - Isometric
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - Yes
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 99.5%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Standard
CARBON HOOD - Standard
WINDOW WEIGHT - Standard

BALLAST - 150kg @-30
DOWNFORCE - 5

NOTE: Not my best track but was ranked 382(and dropping like a rock I'm sure) with this tune at Bathhurst Seasonal. Made mistakes as well, better driver should get lower. Guaranteed Gold DS3!!

Excellent tune sir! 👍

Managed a 2:17 (for me its great! ) on the lastest 500PP seasonal. Very stable and fast.



Chat soon.

 

[Brewguy44]

Hey Bowtie, Like Corvettes much Like your avatar too. Just tried your GSX-R at Mt. Panorama and got Gold on the first lap 👍 Great Tune! I've was running it on a tune I did but was only getting Silver. I needed that little bit more I was missing and I found it in your tune. Thanks Again and keep up the good tunes, I will be trying some of your Corvette and other tunes soon and I'll let you know how it goes

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Excellent tune sir! 👍

Managed a 2:17 (for me its great! ) on the lastest 500PP seasonal. Very stable and fast.



Chat soon.

Hey Bowtie, Like Corvettes much Like your avatar too. Just tried your GSX-R at Mt. Panorama and got Gold on the first lap 👍 Great Tune! I've was running it on a tune I did but was only getting Silver. I needed that little bit more I was missing and I found it in your tune. Thanks Again and keep up the good tunes, I will be trying some of your Corvette and other tunes soon and I'll let you know how it goes

Thank you guys for trying my tune Glad to see it worked for you

 

[Brewguy44]

I did it 2:22, I'm happy with it knocked 2 secs off my time but I think I could do better, if I would quit hitting the barriers Oh Well, Cheers Gonna go drink some of my beer and try again later.

 

[ferrari35]

Suzuki GSX-R/4 '01
PP: 500 // HP: 249
WEIGHT: 790kg // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 53:47
TIRE(S): Sport Hard
OIL CHANGE - No?(Believe Not)
Custom Wing - Mount E, Wing C, Winglet C, Height and Width both +0

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 75 / 80
SPRINGS - 5.50 / 6.50
COMP - 4 / 7
EXT - 6 / 5
ARB - 3 / 5
CAMBER - 0.0 / 0.0
TOE - 0.10 / 0.20
BRAKES - 6 / 5

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 6.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 112
1ST - 4.240
2ND - 3.040
3RD - 2.360
4TH - 1.910
5TH - 1.610
6TH - 1.390
FINAL - 4.200

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 10
ACCEL - 12
DECEL - 18

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: N/A
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: n/a

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 3
COMPUTER - Sports
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - Isometric
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - Yes
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 99.5%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Standard
CARBON HOOD - Standard
WINDOW WEIGHT - Standard

BALLAST - 150kg @-30
DOWNFORCE - 5

NOTE: Not my best track but was ranked 382(and dropping like a rock I'm sure) with this tune at Bathhurst Seasonal. Made mistakes as well, better driver should get lower. Guaranteed Gold DS3!!

I would have never brought this car before as its very ugly but I hate time trials so thought I would give it a go as I don't have much at 500pp and I'm glad I did quick question do you think you will do a tune for the corvette LM car's?

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

I would have never brought this car before as its very ugly but I hate time trials so thought I would give it a go as I don't have much at 500pp and I'm glad I did quick question do you think you will do a tune for the corvette LM car's?

Thanks for giving it a go, glad it worked for you. To answer your question, if you notice, I have been working backwards with the Chevys. Just kind of happened that way but I do intend to do the racecars also in reverse(year) order. First I need to do the 69 Camaro as I am ashamed to admit, I have not even touched yet in GT6. Z28 was first rear keeper that I bought in GT5. Keep an eye open, might do a few quicker but I have 8 or 9 to still post that are not Chevy before doing the racecars.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Pro-Spec: Scirocco GT24 Base Model '08
​

Laguna Blue Tintcoat
Rims Chaste White

419hp, 1150kg, 515pp, 49:51 wgt dist, Racing Hard tires, #27

Parts Installed:
Racing Exhaust
Sports Catalytic Converter
Intake Tuning
High RPM Turbo
NO OIL CHANGE

Suspension:
Ride Height 70 / 60
Spring Rate 10.00 / 15.25
Comp 3 / 4
Ext 4 / 5
ARB 4 / 4
Camber 0.0 /0.0
Toe 0.0 / 0.20 (Not adjustable)
Brakes 4 / 6

Trans:
Set Final to 5.500
Set top Speed to 112
1st 2.700
2nd 1.940
3rd 1.500
4th 1.215
5th 1.030
6th 0.895
Final 3.700

LSD:
Initial 8
Accel 21
Decel 5

Ballast 30kg @ +50
Downforce (F)110 (R)105
Power Limiter 89.2%

**NOTE: PD has rendered this tune useless after the 1.09 update due to the fixed toe settings, this also means that the other tunes in this class are also no good.

Nurburgring GP
Lap Time Average - 4th
Driver's Choice - 4th
Rules

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Scirocco GT24 Base Model Reviews​

by biffa3 -


@@Bowtie-muscle
Time - 1:33:475
DC - 7
1st time driving this car, and man is it weird. Glued to the road one minute, then an almost 4 wheel drift the next. A fun car to drive though.


by jules283 -


Bowtie-muscle 1.31.499 DC:7
A fun car this one! Lots of oversteer available, especially when trail braking. Enough to initiate a easily corrected spin. I adjusted to this pretty quickly though! My only other problem was that it seemed to squat down so heavily at the rear under power that I lost traction at the front, forcing me back off slightly, and hurting lap time. I felt braking into chicane to be weak? But my abiding memory of this tune will be trail braking into the right-hand turn leading directly onto the back straight... awesome!


by Bowtie-muscle -


@@Bowtie-muscle
1:31.409 DC - 7

The good news, your going to finish 4th, the bad news, there's only 4 cars
It may have been the best looking, but this tune missed the mark, don't let the time fool you. A combination of lower downforce than the rest and more wheel spin made this a tune requiring precision and a little finesse. If you missed corner entry, a 4 wheel drift followed, miss exit and it would push out. I even managed to roll it over (again). If you got it right, you could pull off a good lap, but it took work. A good effort, if you are looking for a fun, wild and challenging tune to drive, this is it. But be warned, it is not for the faint of heart. After you indulge in a large piece of humble pie, may I suggest the following:
#1 - Read Hami's tuning guide, then drive his tune 💡
#2 - Re-read Hami's tuning guide, then drive jules283's tune
#3 - When you enter a "Spec" series, think twice if there is a "Pro" before Spec


by Otaliema -


@Bowtie-muscle - Tune

Fastest Lap;1:33.117 Drivers Choice; 7.5

Impressions of the tune; I was pleasantly surprised by this tune, after reading other reviews of the car I was expecting to be in spins and slide constantly. It was solid, just a bit off the mark, The body roll was perfect, turn in was fantastic (sometimes a little too fantastic ) Rotation was very good the tail was doing it’s fair share of coming around the corners and not just sitting there getting dragged along as happens so often with FF cars. Overall good tune, well built. Just a bit too stiff, and little light on the front downforce.

Full Reviews
Note:
My review of my tune above was having a little fun with myself knowing that my tune was not as good as the others. As the host of the event, and not wanting to make my tune out to be better than it was, I took an opportunity to lighten the mood.