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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%

  • Total voters
    29
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Perhaps the more disturbing aspect of this is a point raised by Sir Keir Starmer in PMQs yesterday, which is that these woeful food packages are actually pretty much in line with the Government's own guidance says should be given to families in need.



The fact that it supposedly costs £30 is a secondary issue/insult.
 
The absolute cringe when Matt Hancock was being interviewed is leg-crossingly excruciating.

He is a living Alan Partridge with none of the humour.

You already said that when I posted the same interview a few posts upthread. :lol:
 
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The absolute cringe when Matt Hancock was being interviewed is leg-crossingly excruciating.

He is a living Alan Partridge with none of the humour.






If anyone is curious as to how MPs voted this paints quite the picture:

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People would be so much more forgiving with politicians if they would just ANSWER THE BLOODY QUESTION.
 
Perhaps the more disturbing aspect of this is a point raised by Sir Keir Starmer in PMQs yesterday, which is that these woeful food packages are actually pretty much in line with the Government's own guidance says should be given to families in need
On a different note regarding Prime Minister's Questions.

The tone of PMQs yesterday seemed less bombastic than I remember seeing since at least before Theresa May's premiership, particularly from the Prime Minister. I suspect some of that is down to the depressing state that the nation is in due to the pandemic and some of it is down to a desire to be viewed as less like Donald Trump than I think he was last year.

The Speaker seemed keen to maintain discipline as well, interrupting the Prime Minister twice here.
The first section that I've bolded relates to language used and the second relates to using parliament's time for what is intended. The underlined section suggests an effort to maintain standards in the longer term and members' ongoing consciousness of those standards.
Hansard
The Prime Minister
The right hon. and learned Gentleman’s words would be less hypocritical and absurd if it were not for the fact that the—

Mr Speaker
I do not believe anybody is a hypocrite in this Chamber. I think we need to be a little bit careful about what we are saying to each other. There was a “not true” earlier and there were also comparisons to others. Please, let us keep discipline in this Chamber and respect for each other. We are tidying up how this Parliament behaves and I certainly expect the leadership of both parties to ensure that that takes place. Prime Minister, would you like to withdraw the word “hypocrisy”?

The Prime Minister
I am delighted to be advised by you, Mr Speaker. Let me confine my criticism to the absurdity—which I hope is acceptable, Mr Speaker—of the right hon. and learned Gentleman attacking us over free school meals when it was a Conservative Government that instituted free school meals—universally approved— not a Labour Government. Of the £280 billion that we have spent securing the jobs and livelihoods of people across this country, uprating universal credit and, in addition, increasing the living wage by record amounts this year and last year, as well as increasing the local housing allowance, the overwhelming majority of benefits—the bulk of the measures—fall in favour of the poorest and the neediest in society, which is what this House would expect.



The right hon. and learned Gentleman takes one position one week and one position the next. That is what he does. That has been his whole lamentable approach—if I can get away with lamentable, Mr Speaker—throughout this pandemic. He says he supports the vaccine now. He says he supports the vaccine roll-out, and he tries to associate himself with it because he senses that it is going well, but be in no doubt, that that was the party that wanted us—this country—to stay in the European Union vaccine programme. That is absolutely true. He stood on a manifesto, which he has not repudiated, to dismantle the very pharmaceutical companies that have created this miracle of science, which is true—

Mr Speaker

Prime Minister, there are questions and sometimes we have got to try to answer the question that was asked of you. To run through the history is one thing, but in fairness, it is Prime Minister’s questions. It was the final question. We have lots of others to go through, so I think I am now going to move on to Simon Jupp in Sidmouth, who is desperate to ask a question of you, Prime Minister.
This isn't wholly unusual for a Speaker but suggests a renewed emphasis.
 
Boris just can't handle Keir Starmer and there's nothing he can do about it... he's getting ripped apart and his frustration is showing.

It's so bad that Boris is trying to deflect by suggesting that Labour aren't being more helpful! It's like the school bully crying because the kids they've bullied won't tell them the answers to the class test. It's sad, but it's entirely expected...

Boris is so far out of his depth it's ridiculous, and it will only get worse as Boris's flagship 'achievements' of a disastrous Brexit deal, the break-up of the UK, and his mishandling of the pandemic become more and more apparent.
 
I like this new speaker - much fairer and less inclined to biased outbursts than Bercow. There's been an improvement in the environment in the House of Commons not seen since Betty Boothroyd.

The issue with the lunch boxes comes from having to pay the transportation costs, picking costs, profit, etc. I'm sure it's sometimes the case that there's a bit of gameplaying - it benefits the recipients to say it's worse than it is to get better quality boxes; of course, I'm not saying everyone is dishonest.
 
Boris just can't handle Keir Starmer and there's nothing he can do about it... he's getting ripped apart and his frustration is showing.

It's so bad that Boris is trying to deflect by suggesting that Labour aren't being more helpful! It's like the school bully crying because the kids they've bullied won't tell them the answers to the class test. It's sad, but it's entirely expected...

Boris is so far out of his depth it's ridiculous, and it will only get worse as Boris's flagship 'achievements' of a disastrous Brexit deal, the break-up of the UK, and his mishandling of the pandemic become more and more apparent.
If Conservative MPs recite his nonsense as if it's fact, then:
Might not be a bad idea to anticipate Boris inciting insurrection.
What are we normally, about 10 years behind the US?
 
We all think they're sadists but maybe the Tories have actually been masochists all along. They just can't wait to be owned by Marcus Rashford again.
 
The Home Office has accidentally deleted 150,000 or more records from the Police National Computer's database. BBC. These include the DNA and fingerprints of each individual concerned.

My worry is that these relate to people who were arrested but against whom no further action was taken. It's not clear if that means in addition to being found guilty of a crime on another occasion, but it's concerning that so many records existed of people who may only have been arrested on 'reasonable' suspicion but were never taken before a court.
 
Strong and stable government. And the way they go on about being pro-police after slashing police numbers, police budgets and slashing court resources for a decade.

:censored:ing idiots.
 
The Home Office has accidentally deleted 150,000 or more records from the Police National Computer's database. BBC. These include the DNA and fingerprints of each individual concerned.

My worry is that these relate to people who were arrested but against whom no further action was taken. It's not clear if that means in addition to being found guilty of a crime on another occasion, but it's concerning that so many records existed of people who may only have been arrested on 'reasonable' suspicion but were never taken before a court.
213,000 now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55684320
 

Nobody seems to be asking why DNA and fingerprints are on record for people who may never have been found guilty of a crime - in fact "no further action" was taken after their arrest. It's not clear if this is de-arrests or no further action from bail. Have all these people have been separately convicted and, if so, why is the emphasis then on "no further action"? It's concerning that we seem to be taking it as read that the police hold these records without charge.
 
Wales, winter, 1979. Awesome photoset.

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This photoset is also in today's Guardian, and it's quite poignant to me as we spent our 1980 summer holiday in Rhyl.

My sister found this a few years ago:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/explorers-huge-abandoned-ship-welsh-11403118

We actually went to this place (called 'The Fun Ship') and one or two of these photos brought back some very dim and distant memories. I was only 5 years old, but I swear I can remember being in that ship (apparently it opened as an attraction in 1979...) and winning a teddy bear for getting up on stage and telling a joke.

Speaking of teddy bears, my sister and I both got a stuffed toy dog each from the same shop near Rhyl's promenade. My sister's is still in mint condition stored in her attic (along with about 50 other stuffed toys that never made the grade!), but mine became my teddy and I still have him today. He turned 40 last July but unfortunately he's seen better days and is slowly falling apart at the seams.. a bit like his owner.
 
we spent our 1980 summer holiday in Rhyl.

I'm very sorry.

We actually went to this place (called 'The Fun Ship') and one or two of these photos brought back some very dim and distant memories. I was only 5 years old, but I swear I can remember being in that ship (apparently it opened as an attraction in 1979...) and winning a teddy bear for getting up on stage and telling a joke.

This is my neck of the woods, just a few miles away. I'd always heard that it used to be like a fun activity centre by day and a club by night. The reason it closed down and was abandoned was because they lost their licences due to emergency service vehicles being unable to fit through the very narrow path from the main road; it crosses under the railway and the bridge is way too narrow for ambulances or fire engines. Shame.

The TSS Duke of Lancaster. It's still there now. Not impossible to do it up again in some capacity but its vulture capitalist owners in Liverpool just choose to let it rot.
 
I'm very sorry.



This is my neck of the woods, just a few miles away. I'd always heard that it used to be like a fun activity centre by day and a club by night. The reason it closed down and was abandoned was because they lost their licences due to emergency service vehicles being unable to fit through the very narrow path from the main road; it crosses under the railway and the bridge is way too narrow for ambulances or fire engines. Shame.

The TSS Duke of Lancaster. It's still there now. Not impossible to do it up again in some capacity but its vulture capitalist owners in Liverpool just choose to let it rot.
We actually went back in '81 (or '82) to relive the magic. As a wee kid, it was a great place... esp. if all you wanted to do was visit arcades.

Oh, and if not for that first holiday, I wouldn't have my teddy, and I wouldn't swap him for Jeff Bezos' bank account. Wait, does that make it the most expensive trip to Rhyl imaginable?
 
Britain has successfully prosecuted its first drunk-driving e-scooter case, another historic first.

The culprit, Kyah Jordan, was almost three times over the limit when she went through a red light and almost crashed into an unmarked police car. Ruuuuule BriTTANIA!

Aaah the Isle of Wight, it looks quaint and has some nice beaches but the level of education is appalling and there is so little to do that Newport often looks like a zombie apocalypse in the middle of winter. When all the tourists have left the only people still walking about are the drug addicts and kids who want to fight everyone outside of McDonalds. And idiots on scooters, apparently.
 
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The Isle of Wight exists in its own parrallel universe that's 50 years behind the rest of the country.
 
The Isle of Wight exists in its own parrallel universe that's 50 years behind the rest of the country.
 
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