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Stay Home. Protect the NHS. Crave Wives.
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Arse Hancock resigns
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And is replaced by Sajid Javid. Musical Chairs: Government Edition goes on. You would think with specialist cabinet positions such as this it would be prudent to have someone who's at least worked in a hospital in some form before rather than banking and finance but, you know, Tories gonna Tory...
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Bye bye Matt, don’t let the door hit you in the back.
He was dead when a Daily Telegraph poll had 95% saying he should resign/be sacked. 1st thing Boris does in a morning is read the DT... itswhat he’s going to do for the day.
He was dead when a Daily Telegraph poll had 95% saying he should resign/be sacked. 1st thing Boris does in a morning is read the DT... itswhat he’s going to do for the day.
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To be fair, over here they would've blamed it on communism.
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To be fair to Hancock, he was only trying to do to her what he's been doing to the entire country for the last year.
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I absolutely don't care about where a man chooses to put his wang, so long as it's a consenting place. It makes Hancock an absolutely awful person - and Coladangelo is also an absolutely awful person, because not only is she knowingly screwing a married man, she is also married, and there's six kids involved in all of this too, and there's a good bet this has been 20 years in the making - but that doesn't exactly mark him out as a government minister, or an MP, or even a public figure. He can bang as many consenting women, or men, or both, as he wants, with whatever kink he wants, so long as he can do the job objectively. The affair itself is a nothing professionally, even if it makes him (and her) a scumbag personally.
Efficacy of the COVID response aside (we're all second-guessing anyway, and largely after the fact, and we doubtless have less information than the SSHSC), it's pretty clear he cannot.
It's painfully obvious that he's ignored all the social distancing rules he's been foisting onto other people for over a year. Mixing fluids with your sidepiece is definitely mixing households, given that he's got a wife and three kids and she's got a husband and three kids. That's unacceptable, and he should have gone on that alone - not apologising for it and considering the matter closed. You can't establish a restrictive, authoritarian policy (and it is, even if it's an understandable and necessary one) for everyone else and piss all over it.
Having trysts with his mistress in his cabinet office is also on the scale of unacceptable and speaks of man with a schoolboy mentality and an inability to make sensible decisions if there's vagina involved, but making her an aide, giving her a parliamentary pass, and even having her accompany him to confidential meetings is just bald-faced nepotism - and the business with her brother looks to be pretty much the same. That's corruption, and it's ridiculous neither of them considered for a second how it would look if their affair ever came out; given that they're now leaving their respective spouses for each other anyway, it looks like the endgame of the affair was never even contemplated.
However... the biggest and most concerning part of all of it is how someone smuggled, fitted, and activated a hidden camera literally inside the parliamentary offices in Whitehall. It's an incredible breach of security and begs several further questions like "were there others", "what other information has it captured and how sensitive/secret is it", and "what if it had been a different kind of device, like the one that goes 'bang'?".
Efficacy of the COVID response aside (we're all second-guessing anyway, and largely after the fact, and we doubtless have less information than the SSHSC), it's pretty clear he cannot.
It's painfully obvious that he's ignored all the social distancing rules he's been foisting onto other people for over a year. Mixing fluids with your sidepiece is definitely mixing households, given that he's got a wife and three kids and she's got a husband and three kids. That's unacceptable, and he should have gone on that alone - not apologising for it and considering the matter closed. You can't establish a restrictive, authoritarian policy (and it is, even if it's an understandable and necessary one) for everyone else and piss all over it.
Having trysts with his mistress in his cabinet office is also on the scale of unacceptable and speaks of man with a schoolboy mentality and an inability to make sensible decisions if there's vagina involved, but making her an aide, giving her a parliamentary pass, and even having her accompany him to confidential meetings is just bald-faced nepotism - and the business with her brother looks to be pretty much the same. That's corruption, and it's ridiculous neither of them considered for a second how it would look if their affair ever came out; given that they're now leaving their respective spouses for each other anyway, it looks like the endgame of the affair was never even contemplated.
However... the biggest and most concerning part of all of it is how someone smuggled, fitted, and activated a hidden camera literally inside the parliamentary offices in Whitehall. It's an incredible breach of security and begs several further questions like "were there others", "what other information has it captured and how sensitive/secret is it", and "what if it had been a different kind of device, like the one that goes 'bang'?".
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The knives were out for Hancock already, hence it seems more than a tad suspicious that he gets caught out like this now. Cummings anyone??
I couldn't help but think of this video, however, when Downing St. actually said that they 'now consider the matter closed'... Little Britain indeed.
I couldn't help but think of this video, however, when Downing St. actually said that they 'now consider the matter closed'... Little Britain indeed.
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11/10 post that basically covers how I feel. I'm happy for any excuse to divert a tidal wave of vitriol to anyone in Johnson's cabinet but do the ends justify the means here?
I mean that from several angles. Firstly, yes, it's pretty terrifying that journalists have access to what definitely seem like security cam shots actually within parliament. Not only does that seem like a huge security lapse that shouldn't be acceptable, it smells of corruption much like the whole Hancock affair in general. Who is turning a blind eye to where security footage from parliament is ending up, and how fat is their pocket? This seems like the kind of footage/access you'd be concerned about falling into the hands of terrorists or foreign aggressors. If people within government will sell that out for a payday/revenge plot I worry.
Further to this, it's all hilarious and all, but let's really look at the record here. Hancock has been certified as a total douche-nozzle for months and months now and enjoyed more prime time TV exposure than plenty of A list celebrities. Time and again he's been the face of fumbled covid policy and limp-wristedly led the way for the conservative government's "Hype 'em up, then lock 'em down" strategy this whole time. He's a Tory boy given his cabinet seat as the favour he's owed for how many decades of bootlicking and in typical fashion for such people was assigned to a job he appeared to have no expertise in (or interest).
Despite all that and his intensely, deeply punchable face, it takes this to get rid of a guy like that. We have to have (illegally obtained) evidence of marital infidelity. Nothing to do with his job and his complete inability to do it. We couldn't remove him based on how many people have died or had their livelihoods destroyed and threatened under his policies - but a snog will do the trick in a couple of days. I despair.
Side question, since I can't be bothered looking it up:
When's the last time the person who was Health Secretary had any professional ties or relevant experience to the NHS or healthcare sector in general?
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Skimming through Wikipedia's list of every Health Secretary (and equivalent positions) going back to 1848, the only ones with any kind of medical/healthcare background are Dr Christopher Addison (LAB, 1919-1921), who was a doctor and lecturer of medicine; Neville Chamberlain (CON, 1923, 1924-1929, 1931) who was founding member of the National United Hospitals Committee of the British Medical Association; Walter Elliot (CON, 1938-1940), who had a medical degree; David Ennals (LAB, 1976-1979), who was campaign director for MIND; and Andy Burham (LAB, 2009-2010), who was a parliamentary officer for the NHS Confederation. The other 47 ministers don't appear to have had any medical training or to have worked within some kind of administrative or business position within the healthcare industry.
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To an extent, yes, but if we're talking about their salary and allowable expenses (which is its own box of woes) it shouldn't be any more of an issue than Tiger Woods using his vast sponsorship money - basically washed fan money, as much as MPs' salaries are washed taxpayer money - to go out of bounds on his marriage. It's not necessarily linked to their professional capacities - and again, if Hancock, or any of the other ministers and MPs caught outside their briefs over history, need to keep their ends wet to do their jobs, it's scummy but not unprofessional - until it is, in which case book-throwing should occur.
Bill Clinton also used his position and office, paid for by US taxpayers, to conduct an affair. It was a scandal, but not a political problem until he lied about it. The lying, rather than the laying, got him impeached. That's largely as it should be. Similarly, Hancock (and Coladangelo) should be roundly condemned for being a spouse-cheating, home-wrecking 🤬pig, but it's only because he broke emergency public health laws he oversaw and the obvious 🤬 for favours shenanigans that should see him fired.
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GB News viewing figures plummet behind Welsh language Paw Patrol
GB News has taken a hit in its viewing figures, with the latest stats revealing that it has fallen below Welsh language S4C shows.
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A friend of mine just spotted Her Majesty The Queen on Maryhill Road in Glasgow.
Presumably on her way to The Royalty Bar... a bit early for a pie and a pint, but she can pretty much do whatever she likes.
Presumably on her way to The Royalty Bar... a bit early for a pie and a pint, but she can pretty much do whatever she likes.
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If she's 7 ft tall and in 5-inch stilettos she's probably not the queen you think she is...
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The thing that winds me up about the whole Hancock situation isn't the fact they're homewreckers, or that they've been doing the deeds on government time or even that there has been a secret camera installed in Parliament. It's that after all the lying, giving out contracts to his mates and allowing insane amounts of people to die from covid on his watch, the only thing that's made him pause for thought and consider his position is being grassed up by The Scum necking one of the aforementioned cronies. It literally makes me grind my teeth with rage.
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Apparently it wasn't secret, it was a plain to see standard CCTV dome on the ceiling.
The solution? It's been disconnected and covered in tape... nothing to see here!
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You should have heard Johnson on PMQs today. They really are the lowest of the low.
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Just watching now. I absolutely hate this polar bear-looking eejit we have in charge. I hate this image of the 'big silly puppy' he projects, because the contempt he has for the people of this country is absolutely vile.
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Does anyone else support the banning of second jobs for MPs? It's now a full time occupation that earns £70k a year, and in my opinion if that isn't enough and you "need" to also work elsewhere then you have no business representing normal people, most of whom will probably never earn anything close to £70k. That's before we get into ministers with second jobs that are a complete conflict of interest, for example the new health minister also being paid as an adviser for an American firm that mostly deals in privatised healthcare.
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I think the problem is that being an MP is their second job...
