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There definitely are better sauces here but I wasn't really expecting a "hot sauce". I'm actually not a fan of "hot sauce" at all unless there's just a hint of it in a stew or something. Buttery buffalo sauce is the jam but it ruins me these days. I also absolutely love vinegar-based bbq sauces but I suppose these things are sort of our specialty. Very heavy, extremely rich flavors I'd say.
Peri peri sauce didn't have a taste or texture like any sort of hot sauce I've ever had. Almost how a cucumber is lost somewhere between fruit and veg but is still tasty, peri peri was hard to describe. It did not have the rich flavor I was expecting. It's almost like people in other parts of the world don't try to make meals as heavy as possible lol.
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I know what you mean. The sauce I posted is the mildest of the three they do despite the name. It just tastes good and adds excitement to the meats I'm eating.
I also eat a lot of this stuff. There is a US equivalent I found on amazon but that has pineapple mixed in, ugh.
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.. and flavourless bulking additives such as water, starch and maltodextrin, and flavourless chilli extract to bump the heat level of the diluted mix back up.. and then dried/powdered tomato, garlic and onion to impart flavour to the flavourless bulking additives. I get not having tomato or vinegar might be flavour choices, but such ingredients have other, worthwhile purposes, and their presence really isn't necessarily a reflection of the quality of the sauce.
Don't want to sound like a chilli-sauce snob... if you like it... crack on, it's good to support independent producers, but if you want a 'purer' sauce that isn't full of filler or vinegar, a decent fermented sauce would be your best bet, and I'd suggest finding one that doesn't reintroduce chilli extract is generally a good sign of 'purity'.
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It absolutely is a flavour choice with me. I don't get on with vinegar based chilli sauce. Can you recommend a brand that you prefer if this one is so bad? I'm eager to taste the difference.
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If I find one, I'll certainly let you know... failing that, if I get a decent harvest this year, I'll make you one!
Vinegar (or the lack of it) may be a flavour choice for you, but in sauce making it's often used to lower the pH of sauce. A lower pH means it can sit on your shelf for longer and stuff is less likely to grow in it, and Vinegar is a natural way of doing this (versus maltodextrin). Fermentation of peppers will drop the pH of the sauce without requiring vinegar, or preservative powder, or even cooking, and... for my two cents, brings out the flavours in the sauce way, way better, but then, it takes way longer to manufacture with fermentation, so less people do it... it's simply a suggestion anyway.
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GB News viewing figures fall to zero for certain programmes as viewers boycott the new channel over 'taking the knee' gesture:
www.theguardian.com
That's right. A GB News presenter showed his solidarity with the England footballers last week by 'taking a knee' live on air, causing outrage among GB News's fledgling audience.
GB News shows attracted zero viewers after boycott over taking the knee
Channel label Guto Harri’s on-air gesture in solidarity against racist abuse suffered by the England team ‘unacceptable’
That's right. A GB News presenter showed his solidarity with the England footballers last week by 'taking a knee' live on air, causing outrage among GB News's fledgling audience.
GB News has been a disaster so far and it's been a joy to see it fail. Thing is - will it fail completely or will it survive?GB News viewing figures fall to zero for certain programmes as viewers boycott the new channel over 'taking the knee' gesture:
GB News shows attracted zero viewers after boycott over taking the knee
Channel label Guto Harri’s on-air gesture in solidarity against racist abuse suffered by the England team ‘unacceptable’
That's right. A GB News presenter showed his solidarity with the England footballers last week by 'taking a knee' live on air, causing outrage among GB News's fledgling audience.
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So the news channel that was supposed to champion "free speech" is coming out against someone....making a gesture they want to control??GB News viewing figures fall to zero for certain programmes as viewers boycott the new channel over 'taking the knee' gesture:
GB News shows attracted zero viewers after boycott over taking the knee
Channel label Guto Harri’s on-air gesture in solidarity against racist abuse suffered by the England team ‘unacceptable’
That's right. A GB News presenter showed his solidarity with the England footballers last week by 'taking a knee' live on air, causing outrage among GB News's fledgling audience.
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GB News viewing figures fall to zero for certain programmes as viewers boycott the new channel over 'taking the knee' gesture:
GB News shows attracted zero viewers after boycott over taking the knee
Channel label Guto Harri’s on-air gesture in solidarity against racist abuse suffered by the England team ‘unacceptable’
That's right. A GB News presenter showed his solidarity with the England footballers last week by 'taking a knee' live on air, causing outrage among GB News's fledgling audience.
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He was also doing it front of a black woman who wasn't doing it, likely didn't want to do it at the time, and looked extremely uncomfortable with him doing it. There's a time and a place. Does he walk around the grocery store and kneel in front of every black person he sees? I don't doubt this dude had good intentions but in my opinion that was pretty tasteless. It's the job of white folks to listen, learn, and assist where they can, not to perform awkward and unwanted displays of whatever that was. I don't doubt many of the people boycotting this station are actually supportive of movements against racism, but are boycotting because this guy is clearly misguided.
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Okay, stick with me on this one.
March 10 - Serving police officer Wayne Couzens is charged with the kidnap, rape, and murder of Sarah Everard, who was kidnapped in central London, raped, and strangled to death (I'm not sure what the order on those two is), before her body was dumped in a gravel bag at a paintball centre next to a railway line in Kent*
June 8 - Serving police officer Wayne Couzens pleads guilty to the premeditated kidnap and rape of Sarah Everard, and admits responsibility for her death.
July 9 - Serving police officer Wayne Couzens pleads guilty to the murder of Sarah Everard.
July 16 - Serving police officer Wayne Couzens is dismissed from the Metropolitan Police at a disciplinary hearing.
Now... everything has a process, sure... but surely being found guilty of, or pleading guilty to, offences which carry custodial sentences of this magnitude constitute a clear breach of any police code of conduct (what with the police being charged with protecting rights and all) and should qualify for instant dismissal with no disciplinary hearing required?
I know he's been on remand in prison for the last four months, but he's officially been a murdering rapist kidnapper for an entire week while still being a copper. And he's been a rapist kidnapper for more than a month, but still a copper. If nothing else, he's drawn a cop's salary for a month after pleading guilty to these crimes.
I've seen people sacked quicker for misgendering a fish on Facebook.
*I've paintballed twice ever. Once was there.
March 10 - Serving police officer Wayne Couzens is charged with the kidnap, rape, and murder of Sarah Everard, who was kidnapped in central London, raped, and strangled to death (I'm not sure what the order on those two is), before her body was dumped in a gravel bag at a paintball centre next to a railway line in Kent*
June 8 - Serving police officer Wayne Couzens pleads guilty to the premeditated kidnap and rape of Sarah Everard, and admits responsibility for her death.
July 9 - Serving police officer Wayne Couzens pleads guilty to the murder of Sarah Everard.
July 16 - Serving police officer Wayne Couzens is dismissed from the Metropolitan Police at a disciplinary hearing.
Now... everything has a process, sure... but surely being found guilty of, or pleading guilty to, offences which carry custodial sentences of this magnitude constitute a clear breach of any police code of conduct (what with the police being charged with protecting rights and all) and should qualify for instant dismissal with no disciplinary hearing required?
I know he's been on remand in prison for the last four months, but he's officially been a murdering rapist kidnapper for an entire week while still being a copper. And he's been a rapist kidnapper for more than a month, but still a copper. If nothing else, he's drawn a cop's salary for a month after pleading guilty to these crimes.
I've seen people sacked quicker for misgendering a fish on Facebook.
*I've paintballed twice ever. Once was there.
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Unfortunately we live in a society where people engage in lawsuits for anything and everything.
And the law on dismissal is very clear that the policy of the employer must be applied to the letter.
Which usually includes various appeal procedures which can be dragged on for quite a while.
I've been party in the past to dealings where the employer was clearly correct to dismiss, but where they did not follow clause X in their procedures and as a result the ex employee was paid a significant amount.
All large bodies such as the Met (and the NHS) face this daily.
In practice, the internal conversation goes
1) should they be dismissed
2) will we get sued
The Met may or may not have gone OTT (only they will know), but I wouldnt be surprised if guidance from solicitors over the timing was taken somewhere.
And the law on dismissal is very clear that the policy of the employer must be applied to the letter.
Which usually includes various appeal procedures which can be dragged on for quite a while.
I've been party in the past to dealings where the employer was clearly correct to dismiss, but where they did not follow clause X in their procedures and as a result the ex employee was paid a significant amount.
All large bodies such as the Met (and the NHS) face this daily.
In practice, the internal conversation goes
1) should they be dismissed
2) will we get sued
The Met may or may not have gone OTT (only they will know), but I wouldnt be surprised if guidance from solicitors over the timing was taken somewhere.
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Definitely the case, I'm just amazed that things that literally disqualify you from ever becoming a police officer:
are not also grounds for immediate, summary dismissal:Metropolitan Police
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We got another U-turn....
www.independent.co.uk
This coming just weeks after the Hancock U-turn
Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak say they will self-isolate after exemption sparks outrage
Initial attempt to avoid rules designed for ‘the plebs’ will undermine Test and Trace, warns Labour
www.independent.co.uk
This coming just weeks after the Hancock U-turn
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