Britain - The Official Thread

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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
Boris is Teflon coated. There's too much cult of personality surrounding him for this to make much difference.
Every little helps :D

He's recovered a bit in the polls but he's still on the low side, and those constituencies that went Blue from Red will no doubt be strong contenders for flipping back, plus those that haven't quite found the sunny uplands Brexit was offering.

I'm not sure Starmer represents a better choice for many voters, and I don't have any real intention of voting Labour myself, but the people really need to demonstrate they won't put up with the **** that the Tories have pulled.

I'll probably be swapping my vote anyway.
 
What's the talk about rejoining the EU? Strategically speaking, now would be a really good time for the UK to be thoroughly integrated and economically powerful.
 

Their timing couldn't be better
And of course he opens the event with a trans joke:


Meanwhile, a possible U-turn on a U-turn:

 
I can't wait for PMQs

EDIT: Just saw that parliament has broken up for Easter so there won't be PMQs tomorrow
 
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Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Chancellor Rishi Sunak are to receive fixed-penalty notices for breaching Covid laws over lockdown, Downing Street has said.
Is that the same Johnson that stood up in parliament and said no parties and no rules broken? I don't remember Sunak doing that so he could just resign. Johnson though? Let's see how good his teflon coating is.
 
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Is that the same Johnson that stood up in parliament and said no parties and no rules broken? I don't remember Sunak doing that so he could just resign. Johnson though? Let's see how good his teflon coating is.
Among Tories it's pretty good, among others... not so much...

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I'm not buying into him claiming he once poked his head into a small gathering for about 10 minutes. There wouldn't been nearly this much coverage and outrage over something as pathetic as that. He knows he's in the wrong, but he doesn't have the balls to own up to it or just be honest for once in his life. Instead, he just skirts around the problem by saying someone along the lines of, "The inquiry being conducted by one of my staff will determine several months down the line when everyone's hopefully forgotten about this whether I was at a party or not, since I apparently lack the intuition to recognise what a social gathering is.". Ukraine couldn't have come at a better time for him.

The list of politicians and other elites to have ignored their own rules is a not a short one, and it shows that they don't fear the virus, but they're apparently gonna go to the ends of the earth to make sure all the peasants do...
 
Boris Johnson is flailing around like a punch-drunk boxer who should have quit years ago, stumbling from crisis to crisis and with little chance of making a meaningful recovery.

Johnson and far too many of his colleagues have proven beyond any doubt that they hold the British public - including a large swathe of their own voters - beneath contempt... they not only don't give a damn about what people think of them, they actively believe that they are and ought to be beyond sanction.

Johnson's defence that he didn't know that he was breaking any laws by holding illegal social events while legally compelling every person in the country to avoid seeing each other, even dying relatives, would be laughable if it were not so contemptable. Even a schoolchild could tell you that ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it; but no-one is buying the idea that all of Johnson's transgressions were 'accidental' or somehow concocted just to make him look bad - he wilfully and repeatedly broke his own laws simply because he and many others don't believe such laws apply to them, and that they know better...
 
“He has mastered the use of error, omission, exaggeration, diminution, equivocation and flat denial. He has perfected casuistry, circumlocution, false equivalence and false analogy. He is equally adept at the ironic jest, the fib and the grand lie; the weasel word and the half-truth; the hyperbolic lie, the obvious lie, and the ******** lie – which may inadvertently be true.”

- Rory Stewart
 
To quote myself from January...
It seems like all we've heard about on the front pages this year is Novak Djokovic, and Boris Johnson's parties or not-parties, or work events, or whatever the hell they are.

This isn't going to be what kills him
. Most people don't care, or have been driven not to care by outrage fatigue (Trump's technique). Of those who do, most also broke lockdown rules or think he's a right lad innit. The rest is probably an even split between the absolutely outraged and the resigned to this mincery, with probably a small number who actually believe he didn't go or if he did go he thought it was a work event and didn't know it broke the rules he was telling everyone about at the same time.

If the parties were going to oust him, it would have happened two weeks ago. I get that we don't really want to know about nuclear war in Ukraine, but it's clear that it's keeping other stuff off the front pages while we flap on about whether the blustering, lying, philandering apeclown is lying again or not.
I get the anger, but it is abundantly clear that the parties are not only not going to be the nail in the coffin but they're a clear and deliberate distraction from other news. I think we're on day... seven of the extra-angry "he was fined for it so clearly broke his own law" fury right now, and there was just enough space left over for "UK immigration concentration camps in Rwanda" - along with the obvious Ukraine coverage which makes a lot of news sites a lot harder to use right now...

... but what else is going on in our government that this is drowning out?
 
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