Britain - The Official Thread

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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
the second of those have almost nothing at all to do with EU membership, but rather NATO membership.
I'll respectfully disagree with that.

The trouble in Ukraine was stirred up, in part, by Catharine Ashton. From which party does she take orders?
 
I'll respectfully disagree with that.

The trouble in Ukraine was stirred up, in part, by Catharine Ashton. From which party does she take orders?
You said new cold war with Russia, that's not the same as the Ukraine.

Further more the issues with the Ukraine are as much, if not more about the potential for NATO on another of Russia's borders as it is the EU, or has the US now joined the EU?

Sanctions on Russia came from the EU yes, but the also came from a much wider range of sources as well.
 
I'd like to know more about Catharine Ashton.
Well you could start by spelling her name right.

What about her and why do you seem to believe she is the main reason why a new cold war is in place?
 
Ah, Gladys Kinnock. Name comes back to me now. I was sure he got some sort of top EU job. Not as high as Commissioner, though.
 
So her fealty is to Labour (and Tony Blair?)
Well that would be a question you would have to ask her personally, and I'm not sure what Tony Blair has to do with it (unless we are stuck in a time warp and its 2007 all over again) given that he's not been a Labour MP or PM since 2007?

Nor do I really see what that has to do with her being a major factor in the new cold war with Russia?
 
...a dangerous woman nonetheless...

I have an affinity for dangerous women. Every week I take fencing lessons with no less than 5 of them. All gorgeous, all classy, and all dangerous as hell. :drool:

"There is a beast in every man and it stirs when you put a sword in his hand."
―Jorah Mormont[src]
 
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Let freedom and democracy ring! :rolleyes:

Richly deserved blowback for the compulsive tendency to meddle in the affairs of others.



It said the Terrorism Act 2000 would now be amended to make it an explicit offence for insurers to reimburse such payments.
The Liberal Democrats said it was "good news" that the Home Office had "finally got round" to producing plans to give police powers to find out who was using a phone or computer at a certain time.
 
UKIP have the same colours as the Standing At The Back Dressed Stupidly Looking Stupid Party. Coincidence?

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I am going to go way out on a limb and say UKIP is absolutely nothing to be concerned about. Even if elected, they could never govern, simply because the culture has moved on. Please correct me if there's any chance I'm wrong.
 
I am going to go way out on a limb and say UKIP is absolutely nothing to be concerned about. Even if elected, they could never govern, simply because the culture has moved on. Please correct me if there's any chance I'm wrong.
They won't get into power. They will get max 10 seats in the election.
 
The Tories should be more worried about the SNP than UKIP. The SNP are projected to win a landslide in Scotland, going from their current 6 seats at Westminster, to anything up to around 50 seats! Even with considerably less than that (a realistic 30 seats, for example) they are likely going to hold the balance of power if the two main parties end up without an overall majority, which is extremely likely. However, the SNP would have a major dilemma - support the Tories and end up like the Lib Dems? I can't see that happening. But it is hard to see the SNP getting into bed with Labour as well, and either way it could end badly for the SNP. Compared to the SNP, UKIP are practically an irrelevance in the 2015 general election. I think they might score more than 10 seats, but it is still small beer and UKIP have little to offer besides promising to wrest the UK from the grasp of those dastardly bureaucrats in Brussels...
 
@Touring Mars But the SNP are completely irrelevant in the media because England. What you have raised is a very interesting point; I can only wish Plaid Cymru had the same kind of presence or potential presence in Westminster.

UKIP will take us away from Brussels? Vote Farage, get Farage. Now there's a scary thought.
 
Indeed, but it is a masterpiece of irony that the SNP can possibly (and likely will) hold the balance of power at Westminster without even contesting a single seat south of the border! I can tell you right now that this is not going to go down well at all. Instead of 'English votes for English laws', it's going to be more like 'English votes for English laws, if the Scots say so', which is precisely the same kind of situation that the SNP want to get rid of in Scotland!. You couldn't make this stuff up.
 
I suppose it could end up like the alliance of the Liberal Party and the Irish Parliamentary Party in the late 19th/early 20th centuries.
 
Daily Post

At least one child sex abuse scandal has gotten somewhere with prosecutions. Am I right in hearing that there are fresh reports of a paedophile ring having existed within Westminster?
 
Apparently a UKIP representative just confused Westminster Cathedral for a mosque. The fact that they claimed that holding a straw poll outside a mosque would lead to biased results also has to stand as the most transparent way of saying that one is racist without actually saying one is racist (muslimophobic, to be exact) possible.
 
Bristol sexual abuse scandal

Don't shoot the messenger...

Speaking of which, is Mirror a news site to be trusted? http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rotherham-sex-abuse-monster-flies-4126300
> rape countless children
> serve 3 1/2 years jail
> get out of country
Maybe there's a cultural difference between Westerners and Asians (me; people who live in this part of the world who hold much more conservative views, not British Pakistanis) in the perception of child rape because I can't comprehend what I'm reading. :boggled: Are child rape laws that lax in Britain?

PS: I'm not relating race, religion or culture of the perpetrators here... I'll do that in the other thread. :dopey:
 
Speaking of which, is Mirror a news site to be trusted? http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rotherham-sex-abuse-monster-flies-4126300
> rape countless children
> serve 3 1/2 years jail
> get out of country
Maybe there's a cultural difference between Westerners and Asians (me; people who live in this part of the world, not British Pakistanis) in the perception of child rape because I can't comprehend what I'm reading. :boggled: Are child rape laws that lax in Britain?

PS: I'm not relating race, religion or culture of the perpetrators here... I'll do that in the other thread. :dopey:

I'm not sure where the rape laws are lax in the UK, this was a very complex case involving youngsters from incredibly complex backgrounds. The man was punished appropriately, I think, and there was no suggestion in court that he was one of the rapists. The Mirror is a very low-brow shock-tabloid and this is pretty much par for their standards of reporting.


What IS true is that there seems to have been an endemic, systemic failure in Britain to give credibility to the sexual abuse of young people, there's even a strong suggestion that figures in high authority may have been involved both in Rotherham and beyond.
 
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