Cactus Tuner reviews **Clueless Impreza** Reviewed

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440pp Mini test.

Top Performance Tuning have 2 Minis in their line up.
I thought I'd test the 2 of them in the Mini Seasonal. Test tunes and make cash while I'm doing it. testing cars and buying all the parts and available cars from the UCD really has dented my wallet. over the lat 2 weeks.

I know with the seasonal there have been few more Minis pop up in turners garages that are around the 440pp I may if I find time check these out too.

So the cars:

Mini cooper s '05
440PP
235BHP
1109kg
Premium

Mini One '02
440PP
238BHP
1077Kg
Standard


Tracks tested on:
Tsukuba
Trial Mountain
London
Autumn ring mini

On the first track I did a pre and post tune race to see the difference the tune made. I added all the parts for the first run so it was at the correct BHP, weight and PP but left the finder settings alone.

Tsukuba.

Pre tune:
Cooper S - This wasn't a great car with just parts added. Lots of under steer in to just about all the corners. Not much fun to drive at all.
Best lap time: 1:07.143

One - Much better to start than the mini cooper at the same PP level. Less understeer, felt better going in and coming out of the corners
Best lap time: 1:06.834


Post Tune
Cooper S - This felt like a different car. Much better turn in on the corners, but gave me a little too much confidence so still ended up on the grass a couple of times when I was going way too fast in to the tight corners. Much better once parts were tuned, great job.*
Best Lap time: 1:06.440

One -The tuned car felt a lot better than the time difference would lead you to believe. Again like the cooper it gave me to much confidence and twice I over shot my breaking point on the first corner. Other wise very similar story felt like it would grip for ever. Great car.
Best Lap time: 1:06.507


Trial Mountain.
Cooper S - this is a touge style track, so I was most interested to see how the cars handled this track. I have top say i was really happy with how well these little cars took to the track and held on in the big corners as well as the tighter ones.
Best lap time: 1:44.657

One - Now I made a bit of a mistake with this I some how managed to put it back on to Comfort medium tyres when I first got on the track. so the start of this review is for Comfort tyres.
The mini one just wasn't up to the job of taking on the trial mountain. There was a huge lack of front end traction on the larger high speed corners. This car eats the tight lower speed corners up no problem. But lets go leaving you heading for the track edge if there is any real speed involved.
Best time 1:49.530
Scrap that. I did this race on comfort medium Tyres no wonder it felt so understeery.
Once it was running on the right tyres this was a great little car on this touge stye track. Sticks to the road and is a Hugh amount of fun to drive.
Best lap time: 1:45.146


London.
Cooper S - The London track was a night mare for the minis. The wheels seemed to spin a lot on this road surface so I just couldn't get the car round the track fast enough to win the race. I managed a second and a few thirds before I gave up and pulled my 450pp mini with race soft tyres out and wone the race by about 5 seconds. This car was more constant around London but couldn't quite get the same lap time as the mini one. Cooper would be better for a race. But would loose a time trial against the mini one.
Best lap time:1:04.315

One - Not a great track for the mini one. But it wasn't built for London street racing. Best less said on this section the better. Couldn't do better than third. Too much understeer and lots of wheel spin.*I got one fast lap but was a whole second slower on average.
Best lap time:1:03.518


Autumn Ring Mini.
Cooper S - this was the better of the 2 cars on this track by about a second. But it's hard to tell. Being in a race situation on this track stopped me getting any clean lap times. Don't like this track at all. I needed to crack out the 450pp race soft tyres again to win this race.
Best lap time: 44.5xx

One - Silly track too much traffic in the race to get a clean time and I kept cutting corners 7 laps and they were all in the 45 seconds bracket.
Best lap time: 45.5xx


conclusion
Both great cars at 440pp but for me I'd take the mini one out every time. Just feels a little more responsive to me suits my driving style.

 
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Thanks for the review. Great job! I like the comparison between the two cars. Very well written. Keep up the good work!
 
ThanksKren, it took me long enough to get it all together. Glad you liked it mate.

It was nice to test cars in a set of seasonal races. Earn some cash again.
 
Fun Cars


Here are a few reviews for cars that don't fit in to the Touge or NSX posts.
Well one car so far. More to come.

Car Details
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA '65
237bhp/6900rpm
24kgfm/6900rpm
675kg
495pp
Tuner:Harvey Wallbanger's Cafe & Outlaw Motorsports Garage

What a great little car this is, it's such an amazing looking car, a real pleasure to look at. I have to admit to being a little silly and I tried to put it on sports hard tyres and get it round deep forest as a touge style test but the tyres weren't a great idea for the car and it's not really touge friendly.

It is however a huge amount of fun on sports hard tyres. I put together some great drift combinations round the bendy section of deep forest in it. So much fun it's unreal. I'll not win any races with this car but I will be keeping this tune on it for the fun factor. It has a little too much oversteer for my driving style.

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Great drifting

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Not a perfect drift line but it held the whole way round the long corner.

I managed to get round deep forest in 1:35.xxx I might be able to improve on that with more time but I'm pretty sure I'll not be able to get it sub 1:30 on sports hard tyres.


So after my hard tyre failure I decided to do the right thing and put it on sports soft, the tyres the car was tuned for in the first place and in my first lap got a 1:30.424. Now we're talking. This is a much better feeling car now. Next lap it was down to 1:29.487 the following lap at the last split I was ahead by .846 of a second and I messed up the second from last corner just clipping the inside barrier. So there is still room for improvement on this time.
I had to retire after this lap, my fun was finished. And it was a lot of fun.

the car now sit on the road really nicely and hold on in the corners. with a tap of the hand break you can fling the back out and start a drift if you wanted to. My car only had a few miles on the clock so my BHP and PP levels were a little lower than the actual tune required.

Final thought
Brilliant little car. Maybe not a race winner for it's pp level but it looked amazing while it slid round the deep forest corners. Great work Desp
 
Well life (moving to a new house) and call of duty MW3 have made finding time to test cars and write my little reviews impossible.
But this last week I've found the time to run the new seasonals. I really like this seasonal format, getting a win bonus that increases the lower the cars pp is a great idea. This is making me run cars i would never have used and running with the lowest pp level I can manage to win the races with.

2 quick reviews

So last night I tested another 2 cars Both from the outlaws garage.

First up we have a tune by XDesperado67

The Outlaw Motorsports Garage tunes
Toyota, Celica GT-R (ST183, 4WS) '91, "Pretty in Pink"

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WOW

I just ran this car round the cape ring periphery in the FF seasonal and to say I'm hugely impressed would be an understatement.
Of course I got first place in this.
I was in first from the loop of the third lap.
I won by just over 20 seconds.
I won 974,465cr.

This car grips the road forever, no idea what you did with this but it's amazing.
I was leaving breaking to the last second dab the breaks and start the turn and it pulls in and gets you round the corner every time. The gearing is perfect. Pulls hard in every gear using auto box.
I also ran the same race again but with 10 less PP yes I restricted the BHP a little I know this wasn't part of the shoot out rules but after beating the opposition so easily I wanted to see if I could do it with this car at 370pp, see if I could make 1mil from one race.

Well I won again and brought home 1,082,333cr this makes the Celica the biggest single race money earner I have so far.
Again it's an amazing car. I've painted mine in the same pink with the same wheels and this will hold a spot on my fav list from now on.
Cheers desp, great car.

Well done on making this car go so well.


Then we have a car tuned by ACSR421

The Outlaw Motorsports Garage tunes "Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI GSR T.M. SCP ‘99”

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While looking through the outlaw garage to find another car to run around one of the new seasonals I found this. Now I love Lancer Evos or more the idea of lancer evos, not had much luck tuning them myself in GT5 so tend not to use them. But I thought I'd give AC's tune a go.

Set the car up as per AC's tune then took to the track. the track of chice was from the 4WD seasonal, 530PP 4WD Challenge: Toscana (Tarmac) 104A / 7 Laps. I really didn't do well on this track all the others in this seasonal I was dropping the PP level to below 500. with this on I needed a 522pp gold R32 and only just won. so I thought it would be a goot test for the 520pp Evo.

first thing I noticed was I could very easily make the car slide in to corners with some late breaking while I turned the car would kick sideways and slide round the corner. this is not a negative, it was actually a lot of fun. sliding round the undulating corners at toscana felt very satisfying. Not sure its the fastest way round the track but it was working for me.
I won the race first try, so I was very happy and I won with a 6 or 7 second lead. So i'm pretty sure i could drop the PP level a bit to increase the cash prize if i so desired.

Maybe not the fastest car at it's PP level but a lot of fun to drive, I have finally found an EVO tune in GT5 that I really like.

Thanks for another great car guys
 
it's a pleasure ACS, Thanks for making the tune mate.
I'll be trying a few more from the Outlaws garage over the weekend. all things that fit in to the current seasonals. trying to find what car gives the biggest payout.

Just need to find something to spend the current 20mil on so i'm not wasting winnings.
 


Car Details
Toyota Sprinter Trueno BZ-R '98
220bhp/6900rpm
140 ft-lb/9100
918kg
430pp
Tuner:Harvey Wallbanger's Cafe & Outlaw Motorsports Garage




Over the weekend I took another look thought the Outlaw garage to see if I could find another I was interested in testing. Well I did, I picked out the Onboy tune for the Sprinter trueno '98.
Now as i love the older sprinter I have tried to make something of this newer FF car in the past, but failed miserably. So i was very keen to see if Onboy had managed to make the car any better.

Got the car on the cape ring track FF seasonal the pp limit is 430 for this race so I was confident that in a 430 pp I should win the race with out to much trouble.
The lights went green and I was off.
The gearing is really nice and pulls the car quickly up to 100mph. breaking hard in the for first left hand corner I found I had over done the breaking and was going way too slow for the car.
For the next corners the right hander I didn't break so hard and started to expect the trade mark understeer of an FF. I waited but the car was turning. I started to put the power down and still the car stuck to the road for the following set of bends over the crest. and down to the right hander to start the loop. over cooked it, too much power and I found the limit of the car grip.just about staying out of the crash barrier I accelerated in to the loop.the grip point in the loop was 97MPH I say grip limit I may have done more but the car ran out of power and couldn't get the car any faster.

The brilliant grip continued to hold well through the second half of the track. and with no problems I managed to take the lead by half way round the 3rd lap. then went on to win by a huge margin. after the race finished I left the leader board up to see how mu I had beaten them all by but I ran out of time the screen moved on before the 2nd place guy made it to the finish. So i think I was well over 10 second ahead.

Onboy has done the sprinter name justice. this is just as good now as I wanted it to be when i first tried to tune the car myself.

Grips well in corners for an FF, has a very good gearing pulling the car up to speed nice and quickly once out of the corners. this was a great car for the cape ring and I'm sure it would be able to attack any of the short and tighter track with great success.
Nice work Onboy, great car.

Thats 3 cars from the outlaw garage that have all made it in to my favorites list in the last week. You guys really are doing some great work, Keep it up guys
 
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Added review of the Subaru Impreza Coupe WRX STI Version VI '99 by Newdriver over at Clueless Tunes


I also updated the OP linking to relevant review sections.




SUBARU IMPREZA COUPE WRX STI VERSION VI '99
384HP / 7100rpm
330ft-lb /4600rpm
1260kg
500pp
Tuner: Clueless Tunes


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Well I took a look through the Clueless garage for another 500pp car that would fit in with my other cars tested. and i found this little beauty.
So very excitedly made a version for myseld and took it to my fav track.

Now i know this car was set up for the ring, but as thats a very long track it's not great for testing on when you have limited time. I took it for a drive around Deep forrest. This is my preferred track for testing and I know it well.

First off I took a stock Impreza coupe Rebuilt the engine and chassis, made sure it was running the same tyres and the tune and took it round Deep forrest.
The car handled really well for a stock car and I got round in just undEr 1:30
Well 1:29.421 to be exact. I was happy with this. I like to beat the 1:30 on this track.

So I took the car to the garage and added all the parts from newdrivers tune but left them all as they where, the car had more power now and started to slide round the corners like the suspension and the tyres were just quite not good enough. But the parts added did reduce the lap time by more than 2 seconds down to 1:27.083. this si to be expected a decent BHP hike will always improve the la time.

Now for the Newdrivers tune test.
Back to the garage a repaint in purple new wheels, tune all the parts and back to the track.
the car was now a lot more capable in the corners, but there was still a fair amount of sliding. these tyres just don't hold the road enough. gearing was good but I think set more for the ring than Deep forrest, I found the car 100th of a second faster in general if I used the 6 speed close ration gearbox over the tuned FC gearbox, but as I said this box was tuned for teh Nurburging.
I think the car has just a little too much power for the tighter twisty tracks, I did try to play with a few setting but couldn't make it any better on Deep forrest than Newdrivers set up.

Over all a really nice tune on a car I had totally neglected. I hav ea few versions of the 22B coupe but only one of this version.
After this test I'll be on the look out for another couple of these to play with. I'll be keeping the newdriver version as a bench mark for this car.

Nice work Newdriver, I like it a lot. i'd be really keen to see what you would change with the suspension to help the car around Deep forrest, if anything.
My only comment would be it does slide quite easily, which is actually a lot of fun. but not always the fastest way to get round.

 
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Hi Sir DAN ( Cactus ) thank you for your review about my car and i will work on it to be can drive in Deep Forrest and i will send it for you when its done as gift from me thanks again .but for the slide of the car that give quite easily slide around the corner i love it and this is my still iam not that looking for fast car on lap to make perfect time iam only looking for the car that sliding like real car on the track . And also keep in your mind that iam still NEWDRIVER in GT5 but if you take alook on my site in NFS Shift Unlished you will found my tune doing good there but here iam still adjusting between the two games its completely deffernt for the tune but i will . An shaa AllAH .thanks again mate .
 
I did really enjoy the drive around Deep forrest. in that respect it's a perfect tune.
I enjoy drifting as well and this with the tap of the hand break can do some really good 4 wheel drifts.
I will keep this tune on the car and need to find another so I can keep this one safe.
thanks again for a great tune.

As a newdriver you're doing very well. I'm impressed.
 
cactusOnR
I did really enjoy the drive around Deep forrest. in that respect it's a perfect tune.
I enjoy drifting as well and this with the tap of the hand break can do some really good 4 wheel drifts.
I will keep this tune on the car and need to find another so I can keep this one safe.
thanks again for a great tune.

As a newdriver you're doing very well. I'm impressed.
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Dan i send you FR request my psn is OTS_NEWDRIVER2 accept it and i will send you another one thanks
 
Opps :dunce::banghead: wrong thread :drool:
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But since I'm here, I would like to say, you've been gone a while , and it's great to see you back cactus :cheers:
 
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