Can GT5 be the saviour for the Playstation 3?

[Kryz11]

But if you are Final Fantasy Fan and dont already own a PS3 or 360, will you really buy a 360 instead of the PS3 to play it?

Don't forget about FF XIII Versus Exclusive to PS3, so you get 2 FF13 games for PS3 over Xbox.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

That's your opinion, frankly I think the PS3's game selection sucks.

Which has as much meaning as saying you think ice cream sucks... it's just a personal opinion that says more about the person making it than it does the subject they are sharing an opinion about.

To paraphrase a recent post by amar212 regarding Forza and GT

I do not doubt for a second that fanboyism, biasism and internet communities have in the past and will continue to try and minimize the PS3's game selection, but the fact remains that many of the highest rated games are PS3 exclusives, and on sites like Metacritic and GameRankings that aggregate published reviews, show an abundance of highly rated games for the PS3 including many exclusives... and in the last year, more for the PS3 than any other console.

Well, Joey's posts are a good reason why PC and console gamers see things so differently. The only RPGs on PC I have any inclination for are MMORPGs, and only one, Anarchy Online. Fortunately it doesn't eat my soul like World of Warcraft does so many.

While the PS3 does need more RPGs, especially JRPGs, they're coming. I expect the buzz around the planet is going to revolve mostly around SONY's upcoming games such as Uncharted 2, Ratchet & Clank Future ACIT, God of War III, MAG, inFamous, Final Fantasy XIII and GT5. And when these games hit the shelves, especially GT5, PS3s are going to go with them. But no, it doesn't need any saving.

Well said, and just to add, not only are there some excellent RPG games already out for the PS3, but a few are exclusives like Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice, and Folklore (a game that is often considered one of the most under rated and under appreciated PS3 games of 2007).

There have also been a few highly rated exclusive RPG games for the PS3 released in Japan like Cross Edge (which is supposed to be coming out this month in NA), Demon's Soul (which is available in English and can be purchased online, but not yet officially released in NA or EU), Yakuza 3 (which an English version may be in the works), Yakuza Kenzan, and as NoxNoctis Umbra mentioned, the English version of White Knight Chronicles should be getting a release date by E3.

However, as Tenacious D said, there are in fact many RPG, JRPG, and even MMORPG games confirmed to be coming out for the PS3, most of which are not going to be available on any console other than the PS3. In fact there are so many I went ahead and started a thread specifically about RPG games for the PS3. 👍

Edit: Also to those who say the PS3 doesn't need saving, this says otherwise.

You're basing that on one month's sales figures? In America?

The PS3 sold 23 million units while being the most expensive console on the market. And everyone is acting like the PS3 will never see a price cut. And even though the PS3 is still a little higher, with a price drop it would be well within the margin of the 360 when it was supposedly selling like tacos. Which, sorry, but after the 30% failure rate fiasco, I don't believe anything MS says anymore.

I'm not the least bit worried. The world doesn't love PC gaming, and the market where the 360 is flourishing is the west, America, the UK, Down Undah. And it appears the 360 is loosing steam, like the market is saturating. And of course, the Playstation market is still wide open. The RPGs are doing poorly on the 360. Playstation game seriess mostly bomb. 360 players want more Halo, GEARS!, Madden, NFS, Burnout and Forza, the kinds of games college frat boys play. Meanwhile, Playstation games, games with more worldwide appeal, are selling globally.

By the way, no one has a clue when FF XIII will appear for the 360. Rumors are that the thing could be delayed a long time. But other than that, Halo Tactics, Forza 3 and Alan Wake, I'm unaware of much buzz for any 360 game.

GT5, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, God of War, MAG... there are several games people are looking forward to personally for PS3. And the library of games from the previous two and a half years are chock full of goodies for new PS3 buyers. But what's going to get the PS3 to sell a lot isn't a game, but a measly $50 price cut.

No, I'm not worried.

Well said.

Articles like that are a prime example of the FUD tactics seen in some media to draw attention to their sites and make them money in return. Heck, if you are going to cherry pick a region and a month of sales, why not look at the sales of consoles in Japan, the largest per capita consumer of video game hardware and software. The PS3 has even been out selling the Wii the last few weeks.

More importantly though, in the two and a half years since they launched, MS have only sold just over 600K 360s in Japan compared to 3.2m PS3s over the same amount of time.

In fact, the PS3 has been selling at a faster sales rate than the 360 since launch in every single region except North America... despite costing even more outside of Asia and NA.

Most importantly, the PS3 continues to have a faster sales rate world wide than the 360:

Which also explains why when you see articles like the one Northstar3914 used to support his opinion tend to only mention North American sales. Yet as Tenacious D said, despite the higher cost, the PS3 has been selling at a faster rate world wide than the 360... so based on facts and not hyperbole, there is no evidence that suggests that the PS3 needs saving.... can it do better? Certainly. Will GT5 drive up PS3 sales? Very likely... but that is very different than suggesting that it will be the savior of the PS3.

 

[Tenacious D]

Thank you for the quoting, Foolkiller. I forgot to mention that the XBoxes attract PC gamers which want either a cheap alternative to a hefty PC gaming rig, or a console which feeds their need for PC flavor gaming. The reason I referred to "frat boys" playing 360s is that on college campuses all over western cultures and in parts of Europe, there are lan wires linking 360s for lan gaming alongside PCs.

 

[Peter]

The PS3 doesn't need saving, but it needs a boost in North America. GT5 will put the PS3 ahead of the XBox 360 in sales in NA most likely, but the big wonder is if GT5 could put the PS3 ahead of the Wii. Seems unlikely since the Wii has over 2 times as much sold, but we will see.

 

[Raitziger]

GT would have had to come out much earlier to make any differense in system sales.

 

[m00ndancer]

GT would have had to come out much earlier to make any differense in system sales.

Why? Because of GT5P and MGS4? One thing that would boost the sales even more in EU would be a video store like the one in NA. Because of the !#"¤!"#!%!¤%!"¤#"¤ TV, movie and music companies that holds the rights can't agree on releasing media worldwide instead of in regions or not at all. Vidzone is just a joke together with the Youtube function.

I think that IF Sony could release GT5, video store and a few other mainstream games this fall/christmas together with a price drop of "only" €50 then they would sell a lot of consoles. You have to remember that Sony has always regarded the PS3 as the "Home entertainment system", with games, movies, music and photos. GT5 will add a lot to that being an icon in the console world for many gearheads.

 

[TofuStoreDrift]

I agree with others here that don't believe the PS3 needs saving, but I do know GT5 will help push consoles. I myself have a few friends waiting on GT5 to be released (whenever that happens) before they'll buy a PS3.

 

[Tenacious D]

I believe that Gran Turismo 5 is the only game left for which people are waiting to buy a PS3. Price drop or not, there will be a huge sales spike when GT5 ships. And you can add to that a lot of Logitech and Fanatec racing wheels.

 

[nuno2k]

this will be

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[Raitziger]

well we have to see but now it looks to me that most of people who really want to play GT already has ps3 and GT5. PS3 has done ok without GT5 but some people say that GT is not a well known brand anymore in US. On the other hand GT5 seems to be the only game that can really make differense in terms of graphics to 360. Price drop with GT5 bundle would be killer in europe and japan at least.

 

[II IVORBIGUN II]

I believe that Gran Turismo 5 is the only game left for which people are waiting to buy a PS3. Price drop or not, there will be a huge sales spike when GT5 ships. And you can add to that a lot of Logitech and Fanatec racing wheels.

That is exactly what the manager of my local gamestation store told me.

Myself and my friends purchased a PS3 last year because we are hardcore racing fans and simply had to play GT5P. Using my Xbox live friends list as an example of the impact of GT5 being released, I can tell you that I have many friends who are willing to give Forza 3 a miss in preference for GT5 and these friends are diehard Forza fans.

Anyone who is a fan of racing games simply must own GT5 and many will purchase the PS3 just to play this game. I even know friends who aren't fans of racing games but will buy GT5 just on the strength of the name!

I asked a friend of mine what would you pay for GT5 should it cost more than the average game. He replied money is no object and would pay over £100!!

 

[Jay]

I personally have two friends waiting for GT5 before they buy a PS3 (one will also buy a PS3 for Tourist Trophy 2 if it was released) and two other friends that couldn't wait and bought it for GT5P which is also what I did. There are a lot of people waiting for it but don't pursue the latest news online, a couple other people I know are like that and ask me about the latest when they see me, I am pretty sure they will also buy a PS3 when GT5 comes.

IMO Gran Turismo is still a system seller no doubt.

 

[Tenacious D]

I asked a friend of mine what would you pay for GT5 should it cost more than the average game. He replied money is no object and would pay over £100!!

Wow... I know this is anecdotal, but this is the only game I've heard this level of excitement for. Many of us here feel the same way.

I have three friends who have become devout Forza fans, even though two of them play racing games with a hand controller. But the third decided to make the plunge and bought a PS3 and GT5P - he already had a G25 wheel for PC sims - and was pleasantly surprised. Now he's more interested in Gran Turismo 5, especially with the allure of a load of cars and tracks and mystery of features like damage and weather. GT5 has the potential to sell as much or more than GT4, which sold at record levels when it was released in 2005.

 

[jaspery]

I think the PS3 does need some help in the game department, it's a fantastic machine but I think it's really lacking as a gaming console. Honestly I can't think of a better media device though since it plays movies and connects to my computer to get all the crap off of that. GT5 should defiantly help out the gaming aspect of the PS3, barring it's a good game.

This is rubbish. FUD created by fanboys. Going by reviews the PS3 is second to none in terms of exclusives quality. The PS3 already has more exclusive games averaging 80%+ than Xbox even though the Xbox has been out a year longer and also 90%+. Reading different game forums the patterns are always the same every game from Sonys huge 1st party is trolled like mad and must suxxorz. But invariably are normally very good games. But they dont count according to the Xbox fanboy...

Which has created a misconception. Because the xbox fanboy horde so wishes the PS3 to have no games etc you get it repeated endlessly.

 

[civicgsir]

not that it is going to save it, but i have 3 friends that are holding out on buying one until GT5...just saying.

 

[Shooter_Greek]

The way i see it the PS3 does not, and never will need saving. Sony established thier clientel with the Playstation. I'm pretty sure that most of those who had the PS one bought a PS2. And who ever had A PS2 bought A PS3. So for that reason, unless sony where to shoot themselves in the foot i really don't think the PS3 or even any next generation console from sony will need saving.

 

[ZANELE]

All I can say is a lot of PS3's are going to be sold as of NOW just because of that GT5 E3 trailer.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

All I can say is a lot of PS3's are going to be sold as of NOW just because of that GT5 E3 trailer.

All I can say is after all the new announcements and new footage and playable demos of upcoming exclusive PS3 games at E3, I suspect a lot of PS3's are going to be purchased... and I'm sure many would be more than happy to grab some off someone foolish enough to sell a console over a trailer.

 

[EERS4YEARS]

I love Gran Turismo as much as the next guy.... most people like first person shooters. Until you can buy a G25 and a compact stand for less than $100, racing games will not be the best games nor will they save a console. After I got my G25 I sold all my other games, including some pov shooters. The host of E3 on G4 could've cared less about racing games, just like most gamers. GT5 will be a big hit for sim racers and racing game lovers.... not "gamers."

 

[Northstar]

I love Gran Turismo as much as the next guy.... most people like first person shooters. Until you can buy a G25 and a compact stand for less than $100, racing games will not be the best games nor will they save a console. After I got my G25 I sold all my other games, including some pov shooters. The host of E3 on G4 could've cared less about racing games, just like most gamers. GT5 will be a big hit for sim racers and racing game lovers.... not "gamers."

You do realize GT5P is the #1 selling game on the PS3 right?

Also, it's COULDN'T CARE LESS not Could've which implies you do care.

 

[NapoleonMikey]

some people dont realize 50 million games sold for a franchise is a big number. but somehow i really cant belive this thread was resurrected. cant you guys let a stupid thread die.

 

[Racer Dee]

can GT5 be the saviour for the playstation 3???!!!

OF COURSE!!!

 

[NapoleonMikey]

Mod please lock!!!

Im sick of this thread already!!!!

Get the hint people let this thread just die its a stupid thing to say and can be easily proven the ps3 dosnt need saving so mod plz lock.

 

[Terronium-12]

The way i see it the PS3 does not, and never will need saving. Sony established thier clientel with the Playstation. I'm pretty sure that most of those who had the PS one bought a PS2. And who ever had A PS2 bought A PS3. So for that reason, unless sony where to shoot themselves in the foot i really don't think the PS3 or even any next generation console from sony will need saving.

Have you heard any of the outright bold and undeniably stupid things that have come from some of their keynote speeches? Telling someone that doesn't have a backward-compatible PS3 to buy a PS2 if they want to play PS2 games is ignorant. Only console this generation I know where the lesser model has backward-compatibility and the 40GB doesn't. I'd consider that shooting themselves in the foot.

The PS3 does need something to push it, and if that's to be perceived as being "saved" than so be it. I honestly believe it to be true.

 

[alba]

It'll sell 1 Trillions unit first day sales. You heard it first here.














For all we should care about, we'll be enjoying a great GT game. That is all that matters.

 

[regoon]

At this point, the PS3 will most likely end up either 2nd or 3rd. The WII's sales are simply ridiculous. It will take take a miracle for the PS3 to beat the WII right now. It is good that the PS3 is gradually increasing in sales and GT5 will surely increase it further.