So only I posted a time this week for the M3 E46 at BMB, let’s just skip that and jump to the new candidate for this week.
Courtesy of our good buddy @Nismonath5 for this weeks pick, We’ll all be driving…
The 1995 Nismo 400R!!!
Yes I know, Nismo picked a Nismo as his pick, Shocker.
But considering Nismo recently had its 40th Anniversary Party, it’s also perfectly fitting too. 👍
The R33 Skyline GT-R is often overshadowed by its predecessor in the R32 and its successor in the R34, while they both also got the Nismo treatment in their lifespans, it was the R33’s version that ended up being the holy grail by comparison.
Nismo took a standard R33 Skyline, threw pretty much everything away including the RB26 2.6 Inline 6 and dropped in the RB-X-GT, a 2.8 Inline 6 that was derived from Nissan’s Le Mans efforts with the LMGT1 & GT2 class Skylines.
All that took the 400R up to as nears as makes no difference, 400hp.
Only 44 400R’s were built, 40 are reportedly still around and rarely come up for sale, so if one does pop up, you can be assured it’ll cost ya a pretty penny to get your hands on it. 🤑
One of those 400R’s however, is even more of a unicorn, because one of these cars was originally a Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R LM Edition that was then converted into a Nismo 400R and being officially dubbed, The Nismo 400R LM, a true One of One Holy Grail.
So as sought after JDM’s go, this is in the upper echelons of that pricey club.
No special challenge this week, But given its Nismo’s 40th Anniversary, feel free to improvise and pay tribute to Nismo in your own personal way. 👍
All lobby details & rules are as per usual in the first post.
Managed a 07.29.829 around the Nords. Yes, it was that important to me to get it into the 20's.
YT review: "Returning from originally GT2, this is a VERY welcome addition imo. Looks pretty damned cool, and with its 400hp (mind you in the 90s that was A LOT), it also packs a punch! Pretty nice to drive as well, also thx to its AWD. Features a nice engine sound as well I think."
I mean screw Bathurst and all, but what happened in my latest climb in the dreaded mountain might be my greatest triumph with the Z8: surviving Bathurst without incident, including this close call by the Dipper.
Slightly off topic, but has anyone max-tuned the 400R? Interested in knowing how much power that peach of an engine can make when I throw every credit possible at it...
Slightly off topic, but has anyone max-tuned the 400R? Interested in knowing how much power that peach of an engine can make when I throw every credit possible at it...
Could you believe that we've never seen Dori-Dori review this car? How can he not - but after scouring the internet, I could not find a single Hot Version episode that features the 400R. Think about that for a minute. LOL DISREGARD THAT
If it's any consolation, I did find out that this car competed at Pikes Peak in 1998. If you don't have twelve minutes to spare, I don't care, watch it.
Not Hot Version, but here's a Best Motoring episode featuring the 400R. Tsuchiya–san wrestles an F40 in a Tsukuba shootout against the 400R! 400R feature starts at 36:10, battle starts at 41:41.
Also, holy cow I had no idea the 400R ran up Pikes Peak! Thank you for sharing that!
Great to see the Nismo 400R getting some love and seeing some of its history being showcased.
I just wish that love didn’t get tainted by a certain incident over the weekend.
Without going into too much detail, a incident occurred during one of the races which led to some heated back & forth between a few drivers, measures were forced to be taken and I hope to 🤬 I don’t have to ever do it again, because I took no pride in dropping the hammer on folks, especially ones i’ve known for quite along time.
I just hope going forward, we can be more calm & collected if such an incident occurs again, because when we race hard & close mistakes can happen, sometimes lag is involved & sometimes an honest mistake occurs, it’s just the nature of online close racing.
If you honestly screw up, own up to it early, no one will think less of you if you do.
Hell I’ve screwed up on multiple occasions and i’m considered the Alien for COTW for pete’s sake.
So Please, in the future use your damn heads, talk things out like adults. 👍
Now on to a more positive note..
This weeks pick was our reserve pick set by @XSquareStickIt and it happens to be…
The 2013 Volvo V40 T5 R-Design!!!
The modern one of the two current Volvo’s is our steed for this week.
Normally the top spec T5 R-Design of this year packs a 254hp, 2.5 litre Inline 5 Turbo, but the one we’ve got is a Japanese spec T5, which has a 210hp, 2.0 litre Inline 5 Turbo.
Both send the power to the front tyres via a 6 speed auto and weighs 1540kgs, though considering its 5* safety rating at the time, its heft is understandable.
Hopefully our cars won’t need an impromptu crash test this week.
As for the Single Player Challenge this week, we head to Catalunya National for some alternative route racing, as you’ll use the unused track just after Campsa and the longer layout at La Caxia instead of the normal track.
This track map should help show which two sections I mean.
Whenever if it’s a Time Trial or racing the Ai, that’s entirely your choice. 👍
All the lobby details are as usual in the first post, BUT for this weeks Wednesday lobby, I’m unable to host due to being on holiday so Square or RX8 Racer will be on hosting duties for this week. 🙂
Many may point to the 2004 Honda Legend V6 for being the car that shattered the gentlemen's agreement between woefully polite Japanese car manufacturers to not advertise more than 280PS (206kW), bringing the infamous "276HP era" of Japan to a close by flaunting 300PS on its spec sheets. However, eight years prior, a complete car was sold by Nissan's motorsports arm, Nismo, that not only packed a rebellious 400PS (294kW), but was also completely untouchable by the authorities for illegal modifications. It had a warranty, met emissions regulations, had even had a naughty speedo that would dare suggest the possibility of speeds above 180km/h (112mph) to its driver! I suspect the reason why not many remember this shocker of a car is the fact that only 44 of those very special R33s were sold, each costing ¥12 million when new—roughly three times that of a regular R33 GT-R. And its name? It's not the Skyline, or even a GT-R; it's quite simply known as the Nismo 400R.
But its name hadn't always been quite so blissfully simplistic; Gran Turismo 2 players may recall a very oddly named variant of the Nismo unicorn, the "Nismo 400R Preceiding Model", won from the 2nd 4WD Special Event in Seattle Circuit. Presumably a prototype of the 400R, the Preceiding Model had the exact same power and peaks of the production 400R, weighs exactly the same, comes with almost identical paint options, and to my hands, drove exactly the same, albeit with one arguably minor difference: the production 400R (and even a regular R33 GT-R for that matter) could rev to 8,400rpm, but the Preceiding Model was limited to just 8,000rpm. One might think that this would make the Preceiding Model immediately mechanically inferior, but both 400Rs make their 399PS at 6,500rpm, after which the powerband harshly falls off (Nismo claims 400PS @6,800rpm). That is to say, both 400Rs give their best acceleration when short shifted, and having a lower rev limit forces the game to shift the Preceiding Model earlier if driven in automatic, meaning that the Preceiding Model not only loses no speed to the production model when shifted manually, but is actually faster when both are driven with the game's automatic shifting!
While the higher revving 400R '96 would eventually grace every mainline Gran Turismo game up to GT6, the Preceiding Model would seemingly be left to languish in GT2 as a forgotten footnote. However, when the Nismo 400R returned to the series in GT7's Update 1.40, those in the know were in for a bit of a shock. The 400R in GT7 now makes the full 400PS, albeit still at a lower than advertised 6,500rpm. Its rev limit was a "mere" 8,000rpm, and it was listed as a MY1995 car when 400Rs were sold only from 1996–1998. To the best of my very limited researching capabilities, I've only managed to find one 400R that's classified as a MY1995 car: what seems to be a prototype. It would seem as if the 400R we got in GT7 is the Preceiding Model, just without its weird suffix!
Of course, given the wealth of aftermarket tuners that could extract much more power from the 2.6L Inline 6 engines of the Skyline GT-Rs with relative ease, it's no secret that the RB26DETT engine left Nissan assembly plants comically under–stressed. While said engines in racecars had no problem dominating multiple race series, the road cars, capped to 280PS and 180km/h by the gentlemen's agreement, always had trouble keeping pace with much more powerful foreign sports cars like the Porsche 911 and Ferrari F40, and even domestic competition from Honda and Mazda were staking serious claims to Godzilla's crown. The 400R then, feels like a passion project from Nissan, almost as if they were slamming their fists on the table and proclaiming, "screw the "agreement"; THIS is what we can truly do with the R33, tuners take note!" Of course, to properly bring the fight to foreign makes, the 400R couldn't make do with just more power; it also needed to tighten up on the R33's handling to harness the eponymous 400PS. To that end, almost every aspect of an R33 GT-R was reworked to create the 400R: the suspension was stiffened and lowered by 30mm (1.18in) to 105mm (4.13in), the body was widened by 50mm (1.97in) to fit thicker 275mm tyres, its aero was further tweaked, the clutch was twin–plate, and the driveshaft was carbon. Hell, even its engine oil is bespoke! QoL features weren't overlooked either, as front bucket seats and H.I.D headlamps play a part in the transformation of a R33 GT-R into a 400R. The full list of changes is too ridiculously long to list in writing, but the change that most attracts my attention is that the RB26DETT engine has been bored and stroked up to 2,771cc, and no longer called the RB26; instead, it's called the RB-X GT2. Displacing 2.8L, this RB-X GT2 engine bears a cheeky resemblance to the engines used in the R33 GT1 racecars at Le Mans, and that is just so incredibly cool to me!
Being rare and expensive is nice and all, but how does it drive in Gran Turismo 7? Can it really take the fight to foreign sports cars now that the shackles of Japanese etiquette are off of Godzilla?
As the ultimate factory road–going R33, the 400R retains much of the same personality and traits of the 1997 R33 V • spec already in the game, just turned up to higher speeds. What little fans of the middle child R33 might love the 400R for its commitment to the bit, but anyone unconvinced by the V • spec might be left wanting. Like all road–going R33s, the 400R left the assembly plant without a sixth forward cog, meaning that its 400PS is stretched out long and wide across five awkwardly spaced gears, with some upshifts needing to be made earlier and later than others to give the car its best acceleration. The lowered rev limit of 8,000rpm may sound inconsequential for a car that wants to be short shifted, but on a few occasions across different tracks, I've found myself wishing for a higher rev limit so that I can hang onto a lower gear when fast approaching a braking zone, instead of having to do a short–lived upshift. Being able to rev just 400rpm higher would've saved the 400R so much valuable time around Tsukuba and Eiger, to list just two examples. The R33 GT-R has always been known to be quite the porker by contemporary standards, and instead of improving on that, the ultimate R33 furthers that theme of a heavyweight boxer by being 10 kilos (22lbs) heavier than the V • spec, weighing in at 1,550kg (3,417lbs), with an uncomfortable 58% of it resting over the front axles. While the stiffened suspension does give the 400R good initial turn–in response, it hates long, sweeping corners, and drivers will always have to watch for understeer when powering out of a turn. But all that understeer is not at all to say that the 400R is a stable car to drive; just like the V • spec, the 400R will unstick its rear end on both corner entries and exits if the driver isn't smooth and considered with their inputs, and there's still a slight bit too much roll in the rear end for my liking. Slides will very much have to be caught with the steering wheel before the ATTESA AWD system can kick in; this is still a machine from 1995, after all. And, unfortunately, like most road–going GT-Rs in the game, the 400R also suffers from what I'm calling the "1.49 bounce", where certain cars bounce in an exaggerated fashion when going over bumps following the v1.49 physics update, and that behaviour very much still persists in the current (at the time of writing) v1.52. Drivers will have to get the departure angle from raised rumble strips dead right, or the car is most likely going to hop off the paved track or even into a wall.
All those complaints having been levied, there's simply no denying how wickedly fast the 400R is even by modern standards; it must've felt completely otherworldly back in 1996. Excluding the unrealistically light Italian "supercars" of GT7, the only contemporary peer I can find in the game that would bring the fight to the 400R is the 2002 SR II Viper GTS, and only if the track has long enough straights. The 400R not only kept harassing a younger track toy in the 996 GT3, but would also keep pace with modern cars like the LC500, while matching the JDM sports cars on sale today like the 2023 RZ34 Fairlady and 2020 A90 Supra blow for blow, as though modern machinery were its natural competition instead of anything antiquated from the 90s! And many of the aforementioned cars aren't exactly easy to drive, either! Not that anyone would consider buying a 1.8 million credit LCD exclusive car for practicality, but the 400R rolls out of Big Bill Hell's car dealer at 542.50PP (v1.52), meaning that it's an easy plug–'n–play, auto–win car for any 550PP event that allows it, like the Japanese 550 Cup or even the Kyoto 1h Endurance. Just watch for the front tyre life if you do bring it to an event with tyre wear!
Me personally, I don't enjoy the way the 400R drives. It understeers. It oversteers. It's picky on the straights, and needs to be babied over bumps. It also sounds god–awful from the outside! Like most GT-Rs in the game, it's endlessly needy and taxing without ever feeling rewarding to push; getting things right just feels like avoiding disappointment, and getting things wrong is endlessly frustrating. To satiate a tuner fix, I'd heartily recommend the Amuse 380RS Super Leggera, which is readily available in Brand Central for one eighteenth the price of the 400R, and drives like a sublime wet dream. For smashing 550PP events, I'd rather take a (still super expensive) 2002 NSX-R, tweak its suspension and diff a little, and give it a slight power bump. Or, heck, the 2020 A90 Supra at 549.57PP will do that job just fine, too. And it's precisely because the 400R is so cool, yet so hard to recommend, that I truly wish PD made the 400R a prize car for the Master Licence Tests that were added alongside the car in Update 1.40; after all, the production 400R was a possible prize car (alongside the TRD3000GT) for achieving all golds in GT1's National A licence. It just seemed like such an obvious, open goal, but somehow nobody at PD thought to take the shot. The 400R is cool to look at and eye–opening on the track, but 1.8 million credits for what is, in my eyes, a trophy car, is just... ouch.
That all being said, I'm happy for the Nismo 400R to be part of GT7, not only because it's an incredibly rare unicorn IRL, but it also opens up the possibility and likelihood that the Z-tune might one day join it. Now THAT is a GT-R I might be interested in...
Did you know that the 400R has a direct successor? It's called... the Skyline 400R.
(Bad language in the English CC)
Vic has also made mention of the one–of–one Champion Blue 400R: a GT-R LM Limited converted to 400R specifications. But the 400R also came in another colour that's very special to GT-R fans: Midnight Purple. One of which, No. 37 () of 44, has an owner that sure as hell isn't shy about running the car hard!
I really enjoyed my time with the Volvo V40 this week.
It came at a really fortuitous time for me personally, as I've been an emotional mess as of late, and the V40 is a nice, calming drive. There's no awful surprises behind the wheel; the car is unflinchingly neutral, yet able in an understated fashion, gliding through corners with grace and approaching its limits slowly with good communication along the way. It's soft enough to comfortably cut across sausages like the ones on the inside of Deep Forest's hairpin, yet stiff enough to be responsive and linear. The engine, while requiring a hint of a short shift, has good mid–range torque, and its 6–speed automatic box has close ratios for any situation. Its lack of a limited slip diff does hurt, but it's the only black mark against the car in a package that's otherwise hard to fault. I love its exterior styling, and I especially love its speedometer; the screen behind the tip of the needle glows a lovely shade of blue, helping draw attention to where the needle's pointing. If modern cars for some bizarre reason have to have screens for a dash, at least do something useful with it like Volvo did with the V40!
The biggest issue with the V40 isn't even to do with the car itself, but rather, in how the game treats it. The V40 T5 R-Design might suffer from the worst case of PP inflation in the game. Fresh from Brand Central, it's rated at 441.88PP—higher than established sports cars like the EK Civic Type R, S13 Dia's, and even a Delta Integrale. One might find themselves wondering at this point, "How in the heck is a 210HP (157kW), 1,540kg (3,395lbs) FF mid–size wagon on Comfort Soft tyres supposed to be faster than those sports cars?", and the answer is, "It isn't, obviously". I did 3 laps each with the V40 and the Delta around Tsukuba back–to–back on identical conditions, and well...
V40
Delta
210HP (157kW)
209HP (156kW)
1,540kg (3,395lbs)
1,350kg (2,976lbs)
Comfort Soft, FF
Comfort Medium, AWD
441.88PP
412.52PP
1:10.985
1:10.882
Trust me when I say that the Delta isn't the outlier here. Over the course of our weekly lobbies, the V40 got spanked silly by every single comparison car brought against it by drivers of close skill levels, from an R31 GTS-R, EK Civic, BMW 3.0CSL, Mercedes 300 SL, and a Ford Roadster. I think it should be rated somewhere in the 410PP range, at most.
The V40 is a super nice car, one that I found myself liking quite a bit, but it makes zero sense in GT7, especially as an update car added late into the game's life cycle, when most, if not all regular players at that point have already wrapped up the insulting campaign of the game and have come to obtain many quicker cars to choose from. If its horrendous PP value were to be fixed, if there were a Wagon Cup event in the game, or if AWD swaps were possible to raise the performance ceiling of the V40, I think it'd be a must–have sleeper. As it is right now, it's only good for solo drives or one–make races, and it's a crying shame.
I did a 1:33.811 around Catalunya National while taking the old unused roads around Campsa and La Caixa.
@XSquareStickIt at the V40 getting obliterated by nearly every other comparison car on Saturday:
But if you want the full list of cars that smoked the V40 on Saturday:
Lancia Delta
Nissan S13 K
Toyota 86 GT ‘15
Pontiac Firebird
Renault R5
Ford Roadster
DeLorean
Merc 300 SL Coupe
BMW CSL ‘73
(I’m not counting SPD’s modded HiMedic at Sardegna Windmills)
The last two were especially bad, because both SPD’s BMW and my Merc made massive fumbles at Goodwood and we still easily trumped Square’s V40. XD
The V40 is quite possibly the car with the most overrated PP in game. And the only reason to buy a V40 is to clear the one-make V40 special event that comes up in the Weekly Challenges every now and then.
That looks to be a trend with most FWDs without an LSD. I just slap one on, and I drop 1.5 seconds at Catalunya National (using the Nissan chicane and long La Caixa, I didn't forget). It honestly upgrades this car to sleeper status, and we as gamers should lambast Volvo for not putting one in the T-5 and making it job to a 50-year-old BMW in GT7.
So before F1 starts, a quick review of the V40
's rev counter. Look at it. Just look at it. Not only is it squeezed in between the speedo and gear indicator, not only does it scale less beyond 3000rpm in some psychological vendetta to make you drive slower, but the needle actually stops for a brief moment at every thousand revs. I have no idea why it does that. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would find that useful, or if it's a reference to an older model of Volvo. It's also becomes useless when you fully tune the engine and spend most of your time above six thousand. I give it a yesterday's Apex/yesterday's PFL.
I think I might just have won a Single–Player Challenge for the first time in the 12 months since we've had them, but the differential difference did allow Skyrocket set a faster lap time than me! Thanks for that insight!
It's been way overdue, but it's finally time for @lilcat89 to pick a car to feature, and he sure isn't starting out shy with his pick!
It's the Aston Martin DBR9 GT1 '10!
lilcat89
My choice is one of my favorite cars to be added via Update. At the end of February 2020, GT Sport Update 1.56 brought the Aston Martin DBR9 GT1 '10. The GT1 class in the mid to late 2000s was a true golden age for these brutes. They never disappointed in their track battles. The DBR9 is one of the lesser used Gr.3 cars, so let's change that and find out if the DBR9 can keep up with the newest GT3 machinery.
A large flagship Aston might not strike most as the ideal base for a racecar, but underestimate the DBR9 GT1 at your own peril; some 600kg has been stripped from the luxury cruiser via unhealthy doses of carbon fibre, and the NA 6L V12 up front now packs a whopping 599HP that has proven itself reliable across more than a few endurance races! In fact, the DBR9 won in the GT1 class of the famed 24 Hours of Le Mans 2 years in a row shortly before the category's dissolution from 2007–2008!
Now sharing a grid with younger Gr.3 cars, will the old DBR9 enjoy the same success in the digital realm of GT7?
Weekly Lobbies
Our weekly lobbies are ongoing as usual, and anyone (not a dick) is welcome to join us in racing bone stock DBR9s under BoP conditions!
Click on the hyperlinks to convert the times to your time zone, and feel free to add the hosts as friends on PSN to make searching for the lobbies easier!
BoP/Settings Disabled: On (Gr.3)
Tracks: Randomly selected by lobby participants (~5 mins practice, ~10 mins sprint)
PP Limit: No Limit
Car: Gr.3
Tyres: Racing Hard
~Single–Player Challenge!~
lilcat89
Darren Turner, one of the best-known drivers of the DBR9 in period, claimed on a Motorsport Magazine podcast a few years ago that he wished that he would have gotten to race the DBR9 at the N24, so we are going to something about it. My Single Player Challenge is to take the DBR9 to the N24 via a custom race. A 60-minute timed race on the 24 Hour layout against some Gr3 and Gr4 cars, with x24 time progression (starting in the afternoon) and no fuel/tire consumption. Just enjoy the transitions throughout! I am looking forward to some great grids and amazing photos as well.
I think I might just have won a Single–Player Challenge for the first time in the 12 months since we've had them, but the differential difference did allow Skyrocket set a faster lap time than me! Thanks for that insight!
It's been way overdue, but it's finally time for @lilcat89 to pick a car to feature, and he sure isn't starting out shy with his pick!
A large flagship Aston might not strike most as the ideal base for a racecar, but underestimate the DBR9 GT1 at your own peril; some 600kg has been stripped from the luxury cruiser via unhealthy doses of carbon fibre, and the NA 6L V12 up front now packs a whopping 599HP that has proven itself reliable across more than a few endurance races! In fact, the DBR9 won in the GT1 class of the famed 24 Hours of Le Mans 2 years in a row shortly before the category's dissolution from 2007–2008!
Now sharing a grid with younger Gr.3 cars, will the old DBR9 enjoy the same success in the digital realm of GT7?
Weekly Lobbies
Our weekly lobbies are ongoing as usual, and anyone (not a dick) is welcome to join us in racing bone stock DBR9s under BoP conditions!
Click on the hyperlinks to convert the times to your time zone, and feel free to add the hosts as friends on PSN to make searching for the lobbies easier!
BoP/Settings Disabled: On (Gr.3)
Tracks: Randomly selected by lobby participants (~5 mins practice, ~10 mins sprint)
PP Limit: No Limit
Car: Gr.3
Tyres: Racing Hard
~Single–Player Challenge!~
Pretty self explanatory, no?
Of course, we always welcome opinions, tunes, liveries, photos, videos, or stories about the car here on the thread!
"The foreshadowing video, in relation of this week's car not being the TVR Tuscan Speed Six or the Aston Martin V8 Vantage (these are cars in my personal shortlist that will prompt me to write) is a wasted opportunity. What's your problem??"
"I have a more appropriate video, and I'm sure everyone thinks so!"
GRID was one of my favorite games ever!
A couple of videos to get hyped up.
The DBR9 fighting with the C6R at the 2006 LM24
It hurts to find videos of onboards of these cars in Historic racing when they were state-of-the-art at the time I was in college. I'm feeling old now!
That is a serious blind spot. We need to get you a used PS3 and a copy of it for you to experience. It truly is one of the best multiplatform racing games ever made.
That is a serious blind spot. We need to get you a used PS3 and a copy of it for you to experience. It truly is one of the best multiplatform racing games ever made.
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