Cars you don't want in GT5

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Trucks- trucks would be good for the off-road races, but not racing in general. I prefer sport trucks like the Cyclone, Lightning, and Rumble Bee, or street trucks like the Ranchero, El Camino, and Caballero. Trucks are also very heavy, despite their power. You need to be light as well as powerful to go fast.

Minivans- like trucks, minivans are very heavy. They also were never intended for racing. They were created as a family vehicle. Wagons are fine, just look at the Lancia Delta. Minivans just don't work in racing for some reason.

Antiques- I don't want any antiques in GT5, especially those that are listed as "0-60: N/A". Why would anyone want to race in a car that isn't capable of 60mph? It would take all day to finish a race. Granted, there are some antiques that are pretty fast, but leave the horseless carriages out of the game.

Cars with 50hp or less. Those cars are slow, boring, and humiliating. If you beat them, whoopee. If you lose to them, it's humiliating. Why should cars with that little performance even be racing?
 
I don't want to see Nascars, Trucks or SUV's. Or how i like to call them CUV's (Comdey Utility Vechile), I would not like to see also these brands.

Kia
Lada
Skoda
Saab

And remember I do not want to see Nascars, Trucks and CUV's.
 
Cars that only differ by trim- If they aren't different, save for cosmetics, don't call it a "different" car. Make it a special trim of that specific car.

Customs- The purpose of the game is to customize the car yourself. Hot rods take away that fun.
 
ferraris, the games does not need overrated penis extensions hogging all the attention, you can garantuee that the developers will be so excited to get the penis extensions in the game that they will feature every bloody where.
 
Are you KIDDING? Ferrari rocks! Granted, Forza gets all the attention from Ferrari, but Ferrari isn't the only reason I like it. There are plenty of other good cars, like the Mustangs, Mercedes, and Dodge SRT-4.

Besides, there's always the bull.

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It's a shame people still complain about the 1886 cars. They are an unbelievably important part of car history, you should not blame those cars for their lack of speed. These cars weren't ment to race, these were creations to get people moving on more than 2 wheels with the use of an engine. They were the start of what we see now every day. A game like GT5 would earn much respect if they put these 2 classic cars back in. That's a sign that the developers have respect for these cars as well. No way that I want to see these 2 go.

What I can see from your post is that you don't like low powered cars. Gran Turismo is 'The real Driving simulator', not 'The real racing simulator'. You do not have to race every car. There are much people who enjoy driving low poweed cars, because they don't care if they win or not. They just take a car, drive it on a track and they are happy that the car does what they expected from it or the other way around.

But it's your opinion of course, but I don't agree with it.

I don't want to see cars leaving. The more cars there are, the more cars you can have fun with.

Edit: Well, cars that are only build for oval racing might not get my approval, but maybe I still do: more cars = more fun like stated before.
 
bring back racing modification... that is one thing i missed and that r11 track... i know this is ment to be cars but i want those is... aswell as more cosmetic changes available... we have seperate tuning parts from the likes of HKS and such... why not include their body kits...
 
ya anything but those ugly 1hp cars and nothing like those two ugly cars from GT2, which i wish they dont come back, these cars are

Daihatsu Midget II 30hp 13,000cr
FIAT 500R 22hp 8,000cr

these cars are a waste of time and a waste of money
 
Sjenk
It's a shame people still complain about the 1886 cars. They are an unbelievably important part of car history, you should not blame those cars for their lack of speed. These cars weren't ment to race, these were creations to get people moving on more than 2 wheels with the use of an engine. They were the start of what we see now every day. A game like GT5 would earn much respect if they put these 2 classic cars back in. That's a sign that the developers have respect for these cars as well. No way that I want to see these 2 go.

What I can see from your post is that you don't like low powered cars. Gran Turismo is 'The real Driving simulator', not 'The real racing simulator'. You do not have to race every car. There are much people who enjoy driving low poweed cars, because they don't care if they win or not. They just take a car, drive it on a track and they are happy that the car does what they expected from it or the other way around.

But it's your opinion of course, but I don't agree with it.

I don't want to see cars leaving. The more cars there are, the more cars you can have fun with.

Edit: Well, cars that are only build for oval racing might not get my approval, but maybe I still do: more cars = more fun like stated before.
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I suppose you're right, they should be in there. However, I want to be able to do something with them. I don't want them as trophies. I want to win them, and then sell them for $1 million.
 
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ya anything but those ugly 1hp cars and nothing like those two ugly cars from GT2, which i wish they dont come back, these cars are

Daihatsu Midget II 30hp 13,000cr
FIAT 500R 22hp 8,000cr

these cars are a waste of time and a waste of money
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WTF?! No midget? Get a life :dunce:

The Midget is one bad-ass car,so fun driving that around on Motorsportsland (the GT2 version) :dopey:
 
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ya anything but those ugly 1hp cars and nothing like those two ugly cars from GT2, which i wish they dont come back, these cars are

Daihatsu Midget II 30hp 13,000cr
FIAT 500R 22hp 8,000cr

these cars are a waste of time and a waste of money
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Ugly 1 hp cars? what did you expect in 1886? Ferrari-styled cars? Come on, be realistic...

As stated before, respect those cars, they were the first cars ever and those cars are now evolved to what you see now. In my opinion you're not a true car fan if you 'hate' the 1886 cars.

The other 2 cars..well, some people like to drive in them. Not for speed, just for fun. Did you even try to read my post? (not ment as flame, just a question)

And again, it's your opinion of course, but in my eyes what you said can be insulting for people who are playing just for fun, they don't want to race with a full tuned Minolta in the Nurburgring 24h or any other overpowered car.
 
i want as many cars as can be in the game. why would u guys not want a car in the game? Wouldnt it be nice to beat a car you dont like in a race? or are you afraid of losing?
 
Sjenk
Ugly 1 hp cars? what did you expect in 1886? Ferrari-styled cars? Come on, be realistic...

As stated before, respect those cars, they were the first cars ever and those cars are now evolved to what you see now. In my opinion you're not a true car fan if you 'hate' the 1886 cars.

The other 2 cars..well, some people like to drive in them. Not for speed, just for fun. Did you even try to read my post? (not ment as flame, just a question)

And again, it's your opinion of course, but in my eyes what you said can be insulting for people who are playing just for fun, they don't want to race with a full tuned Minolta in the Nurburgring 24h or any other overpowered car.
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I like the horseless carriages and all, but this is a racing game. It's only called a driving simulator to distinguish it from racing simulators like the NASCAR games. It's a driving simulator because you use street-legal cars that you can actually drive on the street. Otherwise it's a racing game, and should not have any cars that aren't competitive in racing.

Perhaps, in your case, they should have a whole bunch of horseless carriages and have a race with them. It would be called the Pioneer's Race: nothing but 1890-1909 vehicles. Good fun.
 
Who says I want to race with them? I like to drive with them.

They included the first cars ever made and they should not be excluded. The Ford T model is also a car that was historically seen very important. This car brought the world on wheels. The car was payable for any person in the world.

Too bad people forget this. I have respect for Polyphony Digital that they included these old non competitive cars. You don't always need competition.

I agree with you that GT1 was more a racing game than other GT games. They stopped with this point of view in the other GT games, because they knew that not everyone cares about racing, just cruising around was also something people liked to do ("Driving in your fathers' BMW"). In GT4 I bought a Jensen Healey Interceptor MK.III not because I wanted to race in it...no, I just wanted to have it to cruise around on several tracks.

Anyway, I don't agree with you saying that GT4 is a racing simulation game. It is a driving simulation game in which you can do lots of things except just racing.

Too bad JohnBM01 hasn't visited this thread so far. He would probably fully agree with me on this.
 
Sjenk
Who says I want to race with them? I like to drive with them.

They included the first cars ever made and they should not be excluded. The Ford T model is also a car that was historically seen very important. This car brought the world on wheels. The car was payable for any person in the world.

Too bad people forget this. I have respect for Polyphony Digital that they included these old non competitive cars. You don't always need competition.

I agree with you that GT1 was more a racing game than other GT games. They stopped with this point of view in the other GT games, because they knew that not everyone cares about racing, just cruising around was also something people liked to do ("Driving in your fathers' BMW"). In GT4 I bought a Jensen Healey Interceptor MK.III not because I wanted to race in it...no, I just wanted to have it to cruise around on several tracks.

Anyway, I don't agree with you saying that GT4 is a racing simulation game. It is a driving simulation game in which you can do lots of things except just racing.

Too bad JohnBM01 hasn't visited this thread so far. He would probably fully agree with me on this.
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i completely agree with you sjenk, well said, couldn't have put it better myself :) it's respect for the industry and the attention to detail like this that sets gt apart from every other racing game.
 
Perhaps an historics racing league is in order if you want 19th century cars. As for trucks, only sport trucks, unless rally or dirt racing is available. I don't want to race my Impreza against a 4x4 Ford Ranger.
 
You called, Sjenk? ;-) There was a discussion about this very thing in a very old thread. I know the thread is about what kinds of cars aren't needed in GT5, but let me address your individual points.

TRUCKS - Let me tell you something. I was going to agree with you on trucks before seeing what GT4 had to offer. When I first played GT4 at an EB store, I actually thought racing trucks was quite fun. Yeah, they are slow and heavy. But if you ask me, you want a truck to be proud of? Make it either the Ford SVT Lightning or the Toyota Tacoma. I recommend the Tacoma because to me, it isn't a truck. It is the lighest of the offered trucks and can be lightened down to just over 3,000 lbs. For a truck, that's amazing. Slap on some racing upgrades and a Stage 2 NA upgrade, and you have a machine that's pretty cool. I even used my Tacoma to win the Japan Championship. So, I'd like to see a few more of those, even some 1930s Willys trucks. If the truck can do well in racing, I say put them in. I just don't want anything like a Hummer or anything.

MINIVANS - I remembered watching an episode of Speed Channel show "Sports Car Revolution." It was a battle of a Honda Odyssey with a few people in it to weigh it down somewhat, and a Plymouth Superbird in an Autocross setting. The Odyssey beat the Superbird in Autocross. I can even recall a Dodge Grand Caravan able to go from 0-60 in about 6 seconds. For a van, that's impressive. Some vans can be performers, so keep some big time machines. I'd especially would be interested in seeing the Renault Espace F1 again.

VINTAGE (or as you call them, antiques) - This is automotive history. Sure, I wouldn't normally want to race a Subaru 360, but there are some nice vintage cars you can enjoy racing. For one, the Honda S800 Race Car. That thing is a front-engined go-kart. You have to understand older cars to appreciate newer ones. GT4 celebrated the history of the automobile and did it almost perfect, and you don't want them because they are slow? Come on, now!

More to come!
 
John thank you for having an ounce of smarts.

This thread has pretty much brought out the dumbest people that post here. good god, guys. Open your minds a little bit, eh?
 
CARS WITH UNDER 50HP - Again... you're not forced to race these machines. You don't have the world's fastest cars when you start a racing game, so why do you think these cars are only a waste of time? Do you want only fast cars? Let me tell you what will happen if you have only fast cars and only high-horsepower behemoths. Cars will lack distinction. What I mean by that is, no matter what car you select, you have something fast no matter what it is. Again, some older cars had this much horsepower. On top of that, understanding what makes a car special can help you appreciate it more even if you don't like it. Want to put that to the test? Play GT2, look for the Daihatsu Midget D-Type, and go to "Info." I do think Info descriptions need to return to as many cars as possible so that one can understand the story behind certain cars, but it gets interesting. I believe the Midget D-Type had some characteristics that would put some European sports cars to shame. What exact characteristics is something that isn't in my head right now, so look for yourself. The main point to all of this is, why get rid of them?

OTHER POINTS TO CLARIFY - "It's only called a driving simulator to distinguish it from racing simulators...It's a driving simulator because you use street-legal cars that you can actually drive on the street. Otherwise it's a racing game, and should not have any cars that aren't competitive in racing." -Classic_Anycar, Post #21

For one thing, I'd read Post #22 by Sjenk when it comes to cars. You know, what he said couldn't be any more true. You can drive a car on a track all alone. You'll always have competition unless you're in Photo Mode. In this case, your competition in Time Attack is the clock. Sometimes, you don't want to race. You just want to see that beauty in motion. You can have fun with anything from a Daimler from the 19th Century to an Audi R8. You race AND drive. Competition driving, practical driving, it's all there. Or maybe some of you like older cars ONLY if they are fast. Well, get that Auto Union classic from the Audi Classics lineup. It can do 200+ mph. The Toyota Prius is a low-powered car, but one modified a Prius to do rally racing. People, if all you care about are fast cars, you're missing the point of 700 or so cars. You have a mix of history, varied auto types, varied manufacturers, PD does this all for a reason. Don't expect GT5 to be a game with useless cars. Other than that, some of these "I don't wants" are a bit dumb to be honest.
 
👍 John I agree 110%, theres not many cars I'd say don't have a place in the GT series.
 

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