Cars you don't want in GT5
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I´d actually like to have a NASCAR type of car in the game. It can always be setup to run on a "roadcourse", and that would be fun!
As for the old 19th century cars, I say they should be more implemented instead of taken out. Imagine a true vintage race between those cars! Would be awesome!
The only brand of cars that is overrepresented are the Daihatsus. They should be in the game, But why have three types of the Move model, that look the same and basically behave the same? They are simply to slow to actually be really funny on track. Same goes for Fiat 500 models. The R model should be enough IMO. Now on the other hand, I don´t mind having over 100 Nissan models, or over 40 Skylines for that matter, since they are all more or less fun to drive. If Daihatsus models had 50 more hp, they too would pose an amusement, but as it is, they are mostly boring.
But then again, If none of them are outed, and more manufacturers make it in to the game, I´m still happy. It´s all about the cars!
As for the old 19th century cars, I say they should be more implemented instead of taken out. Imagine a true vintage race between those cars! Would be awesome!
The only brand of cars that is overrepresented are the Daihatsus. They should be in the game, But why have three types of the Move model, that look the same and basically behave the same? They are simply to slow to actually be really funny on track. Same goes for Fiat 500 models. The R model should be enough IMO. Now on the other hand, I don´t mind having over 100 Nissan models, or over 40 Skylines for that matter, since they are all more or less fun to drive. If Daihatsus models had 50 more hp, they too would pose an amusement, but as it is, they are mostly boring.
But then again, If none of them are outed, and more manufacturers make it in to the game, I´m still happy. It´s all about the cars!
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They'll have to, mainly to make them look good. The RX7 and Evo IX GT5 models we've seen were both done from scratch (well the Evo IX isn't even in GT4) but the RX7 was and the GT5 model was new. Also the GT5 models are beinf modelled part by part, you can see the gaps between the body panels on the RX7, GT4's wern't modelled like that. Modelling them part by part could alos be in preperation for the damage engine, in GT4 you couldn't have bennets popping up and bumpers falling off because the cars were all modelled as one model, not seperate bumpers and doors ect that could come off.
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^ I'd like to see every car/truck/van/SUV made in GT, I don't even care if there is 5000 Skylines/F-150/Ram/Lancers/WRX/Mustang/F-Body/Falcons/Commodores/Euro-Escort/Focus/Mini in GT as long as I see a minimum of 10,000 cars in the game, I'll be the happiest guy here in GTPlanet.
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^ I'd like to see every car/truck/van/SUV made in GT, I don't even care if there is 5000 Skylines/F-150/Ram/Lancers/WRX/Mustang/F-Body/Falcons/Commodores/Euro-Escort/Focus/Mini in GT as long as I see a minimum of 10,000 cars in the game, I'll be the happiest guy here in GTPlanet.
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I could do without midgets, 360s, 2CVs etc. all these cars do is make me waste time beating their crappy races just to get 100%. I don't mind the skylines that much but I would like a few more American cars.
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Surely, the Mini Cooper is one of the coolest cars back then, and even today with BMW life. The Mini may be small, but it is no joke. John Cooper did a hell of a job back in the day with the concept of a small car that can still deliver. Another low-HP car that's pretty nice is the lovely Volkswagen Karman-Ghia (correct me if I misspelled), a rear-engined, rear-wheel drive (just like most Porsches, mind you) machine with low HP, but still looks and probably performs lovingly.
Oh, and do you want another reason why to keep "crappy 63hp cars?" The other reason is because you can always add power to make them much faster. Hey, taking a Kei car with Kei horsepower, but giving it as much horsepower as a stock Civic Type R or Civic Si is impressive in terms of power. These cars may be slow, but you can race into corners better than much powerful, much larger cars. Some vintage race cars weren't horsepower beasts. Probably anyone outside of America's Trans-Am series (I'm not knocking this long-running deal) would know of automobiles that may have lacked power, but still delivered on any given Sunday.
Another thing about these sorts of cars is that they shouldn't be looked on as a waste of time. Speaking as an American, America doesn't make low-horsepowered automobiles in the past. In fact, big-bodied muscle cars and high-displacement old beauties dominated most of our automotive past. Also, this is a chance to see different cultures at work. Not everyone in Japan owns a big-bodied car with 400hp and 5000+ cc of displacement. Europe even comissioned smaller cars to try to cure some fuel consumption concerns. You'll see turbo diesels and stuff. To me, that's the only excuse I could make for someone when it comes to racing less-powerful machines. It's probably arguable, but one of the best small cars I ever raced in a game was a tuned Mugen Beat in Gran Turismo 2. I modded it up to 98hp, and it delivered on the track with precise control in corners, great braking, grippy tires, all the stuff you need for a racing machine. Race cars don't have to be Le Mans prototypes and Formula One race cars.
In other words, keep the balance of cars healthy and unaltered. I've actually enjoyed racing things like the Honda S800 Race car to a Mitsubishi Pajero Dakar racer, to even trying out the Honda Odyssey and Toyota Tacoma. I brought myself to love racing these machines, and I don't feel a lick concerened. Just race, already!
Oh, and do you want another reason why to keep "crappy 63hp cars?" The other reason is because you can always add power to make them much faster. Hey, taking a Kei car with Kei horsepower, but giving it as much horsepower as a stock Civic Type R or Civic Si is impressive in terms of power. These cars may be slow, but you can race into corners better than much powerful, much larger cars. Some vintage race cars weren't horsepower beasts. Probably anyone outside of America's Trans-Am series (I'm not knocking this long-running deal) would know of automobiles that may have lacked power, but still delivered on any given Sunday.
Another thing about these sorts of cars is that they shouldn't be looked on as a waste of time. Speaking as an American, America doesn't make low-horsepowered automobiles in the past. In fact, big-bodied muscle cars and high-displacement old beauties dominated most of our automotive past. Also, this is a chance to see different cultures at work. Not everyone in Japan owns a big-bodied car with 400hp and 5000+ cc of displacement. Europe even comissioned smaller cars to try to cure some fuel consumption concerns. You'll see turbo diesels and stuff. To me, that's the only excuse I could make for someone when it comes to racing less-powerful machines. It's probably arguable, but one of the best small cars I ever raced in a game was a tuned Mugen Beat in Gran Turismo 2. I modded it up to 98hp, and it delivered on the track with precise control in corners, great braking, grippy tires, all the stuff you need for a racing machine. Race cars don't have to be Le Mans prototypes and Formula One race cars.
In other words, keep the balance of cars healthy and unaltered. I've actually enjoyed racing things like the Honda S800 Race car to a Mitsubishi Pajero Dakar racer, to even trying out the Honda Odyssey and Toyota Tacoma. I brought myself to love racing these machines, and I don't feel a lick concerened. Just race, already!
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I wouldn't even want to race anything slow around the Nürburgring Nordschleife, much less race the track in the first place. I heard it can take two days to clear that monster of a race track with one of the two Daimlers. That is, unless you have absolutely no life.
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Having fun with those lower powered cars are great! Max out your Daihatsu Midget D-Type and have heaps of fun! Like driving a gocart with a very high centre of gravity! And the Mazda Autozam is great when tuned, handles like a dream!
I actually think that those 1hp cars are a bit misportraid (does that word exist??) since 1hp would actually be enough to take them around the ring. In how long? I don´t know, but around 2 hrs would be a qualified guess. Way to long to impose a challange anyways, but imagine 10-20 1hp cars on tsukuba for a 2 lap race! I hope something like that is implemented for GT5!
I actually think that those 1hp cars are a bit misportraid (does that word exist??) since 1hp would actually be enough to take them around the ring. In how long? I don´t know, but around 2 hrs would be a qualified guess. Way to long to impose a challange anyways, but imagine 10-20 1hp cars on tsukuba for a 2 lap race! I hope something like that is implemented for GT5!
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Escalades, Hummer's etc.
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Some countries (or companies) just don't have a lot to offer. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be included at all, that one car could well be worth it. What I do mind though, is that they only include a small part of what some car companies have to offer (Volvo for example).Mr. Boy
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I'd get rid of anything with less than 100hp
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I would also say postpone various models of the same car...while it's easy & convenient for the game maker, everyone would rather see more different cars...once you have all the cars possible (they can't get lamborghinis & ferraris, so they wont be there unless need for speed gives the licensing up) but once you have all that you can, then look for various models
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Yep, the best example would be the old Lotus Elan (I think). It's not THAT powerful, but I can go into corners 20-25 kmh faster than big, high displacement monsters 
May I ask you: Have you read anything that has been posted in this thread? We have discussed a lot about the 'weaker' cars in previous posts, so (in my opinion) if you have that opinion, you should at least give some arguments why that is your opinion, just like we did in our posts. I'd suggest to read all posts made by JohnBM01 and me and then say why we are wrong. That's more useful than say this without any arguments in it.LeadSlead#2
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well, I don't like slow cars..period I wanna race, not jog... we are talking about what I'd like, not what I think everybody would like, right? I would like to at least, not be forced to drive such slow, slow vehicles -- I hate going 50 mph... it would probabley be better, however, if GT5 had it so I could actually sense speed just as (or closer) real-life.... I'd probly care less than, but still, I'm racing, I wanna go fast, thats all there is to it for me.
Formula 1 cars <----- throw this arrow in them and kill them from GT -- don't like em they don't make any sense alongside all the other cars that are in GT, plus there are a million games with Indy cars & the likes...so kill em
P.S. like I said, I'd rather see 1 of everything, than 5-10 of half
I'll be ok without a 91, 92, 93, 94, 95 Honda Civic Hatch all identical cept for yr num
I won't be ok without a 00 Vette (non Zo6)
I'll be ok without 84 skylines
I won't be ok without all the American cars that they don't have, and have no good reason for not having... like the cobalt ss ?!?!? why not? they have an 06 Eclipse, but they couldnt get an 05 Cobalt? buuuull$#!!!!t
Formula 1 cars <----- throw this arrow in them and kill them from GT -- don't like em they don't make any sense alongside all the other cars that are in GT, plus there are a million games with Indy cars & the likes...so kill em
P.S. like I said, I'd rather see 1 of everything, than 5-10 of half
I'll be ok without a 91, 92, 93, 94, 95 Honda Civic Hatch all identical cept for yr num
I won't be ok without a 00 Vette (non Zo6)
I'll be ok without 84 skylines
I won't be ok without all the American cars that they don't have, and have no good reason for not having... like the cobalt ss ?!?!? why not? they have an 06 Eclipse, but they couldnt get an 05 Cobalt? buuuull$#!!!!t
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allow me to clarify
Lotus Elan S1...handles great, neat little car... great car? no, absolutly not.. why? because they had plenty of tecnology and know-how to give it more power than they did... just like the new Lotus with the 190 hp engine... it would be great, but sadly, is not due to being horribly underpowered. but thats just me
Lotus Elan S1...handles great, neat little car... great car? no, absolutly not.. why? because they had plenty of tecnology and know-how to give it more power than they did... just like the new Lotus with the 190 hp engine... it would be great, but sadly, is not due to being horribly underpowered. but thats just me
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1: High technology in 1962? You really can't compare the Elan with the Elise...
2: English cars and American (Muscle) cars are 2 completely different kind of classes. The English people did it in their own non-muscle way, the Americans did. Lotus went for drivability and low weight, not power.
3: Why do you think the Mazda MX-5 doesn't have a high powered engine in it? Because that car isn't ment to be the fastest car around, it's all about the joy to drive in it. Lotus did it the same way with the Elan. It was a car to cruise around with, not to break speed records.
Anyway, I'd suggest to play a game like Forza (which I don't have, but the car list says enough). That game has a few slow(er) cars and loads of fast and American cars. A game like that fits in your wishlist.
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