Chemtrails?

[Enemem]

Well ? Is it?

 

[Famine]

No.

 

[DQuaN]

This popped up on my facebook yesterday. It's a load of tosh.

Of course there is a government conspiracy to spray chemicals in to the atmosphere for some unknown reason and the entire aviation industry are in on it but not one of the millions of employees have ever mentioned it...

 

[G.T.Ace]

This popped up on my facebook yesterday. It's a load of tosh.

Of course there is a government conspiracy to spray chemicals in to the atmosphere for some unknown reason and the entire aviation industry are in on it but not one of the millions of employees have ever mentioned it...

Not to mention that the planes of course have the storage to spray dozens of mile long chemtrails for hours.

 

[Ryanswannell]

And that they would be willing to kill themselves with these so-called "chemtrails"

 

[Exorcet]

There is water in air

 

[Vegard]

There is water in air

That is the most likely explenation IMO.
The trail seems to emerge from the area around the extended flaps, where the pressure is relatively extreme, and the extreme humidity is apparent for all to see.

Sometimes, when the conditions are just right, you can see contrail vortexes around the edges of the wings on F1 cars.

 

[Ryanswannell]

That is the most likely explenation IMO.
The trail seems to emerge from the area around the extended flaps, where the pressure is relatively extreme, and the extreme humidity is apparent for all to see.

Sometimes, when the conditions are just right, you can see contrail vortexes around the edges of the wings on F1 cars.

OMG!!!!1!!!

Red Bull F1 are in on it as well!!! /sarcasm

 

[wfooshee]

The contrails are from water in the engine exhaust. It's not an aerodynamic effect, it's a thermal effect. High-altitude air is COLD. Engine exhaust is HOT.

And it's not just jets. High-altitude WWII aircraft left contrails.

And we already did this, and it got locked.....

That said, the thing in the OP vid looks like a fuel dump still going on. Airliners dump fuel if they're too heavy during approach, but they shouldn't be during the landing. It might be an aero effect off the flaps, but the cloud left seems to "permanent" for water vapor.

 

[BobK]

Sheesh. Not this again, please.

Edit: Treed by @wfooshee.

 

[Keef]

Came here to post the same thread, haha.

 

[Enemem]

Not my fault the other thread was locked.

@prettymucheverybody - Just because you think you're right doesn't mean you are. Looks weird to me.

And @BobK. if you don't like chemtrail threads, then what the hell are you doing in here?

 

[Famine]

@prettymucheverybody - Just because you think you're right doesn't mean you are. Looks weird to me.

Do you know why it's not chemtrails? It's because there's no such thing as chemtrails.

You may as well have asked if it was unicorns or Santa Claus. Doesn't matter how weird it looks to you, it's not chemtrails.

 

[Keef]

Prettymucheverybody has some pretty solid meteorology and aerodynamics coursework as part of their aviation technology degree and pilot license(s). So you bet your ass they think they're right.

 

[Dotini]

I agree that contrails are the logical and correct explanation for "chemtrail conspiracy".

On the other hand, IF "global warming" were the big looming problem most governments and scientists say it is, then chemtrails might be a very good idea indeed.

This leads me to believe two things:
1) Contrails as currently produced by the global jet fleet are already efficiently and economically producing cloud cover just as well as any chemtrail conspiracy.
2) "Global warming" may not be the big deal some alarmists are crying.

 

[kennylmao]

It's making clouds.

 

[Azuremen]

@prettymucheverybody - Just because you think you're right doesn't mean you are. Looks weird to me.

Like most of your posts, too much reasoning with the feels, not enough with the logic.

And @BobK. if you don't like chemtrail threads, then what the hell are you doing in here?

Probably hoping to stop another foray into mind numbing conspiracy theory idiocy, I'd wager.

On the other hand, IF "global warming" were the big looming problem most governments and scientists say it is, then chemtrails might be a very good idea indeed.

Wut

 

[Lizard]

As far as conspiracy theories go I have to say this is one of the worst and least believable.

 

[BobK]

And @BobK. if you don't like chemtrail threads, then what the hell are you doing in here?

Surely a bright laddie like you can figure it out.

Probably hoping to stop another foray into mind numbing conspiracy theory idiocy, I'd wager.

Hoping, but no real expectancy of it.

 

[Azuremen]

Surely a bright laddie like you can figure it out.

Don't hold your breath - this is the same guy that admitted to having no understanding of economics while endlessly declaring the evils of capitalism and wealth.

 

[LeMansAid]

What's the response to the suggestion that contrails should dissipate at a far more rapid rate than the supposedly questionable trails do?

A quick net search seems to suggest that dissipation time should be a mere 2 or so minutes (or was that just conspiracy sites "getting all up in my face"?). The ones that I've seen throughout my life where I live tend to be visable for hours.

 

[Exorcet]

Contrails are clouds. They can last as long as natural clouds under the right conditions, like when there is a lot of moisture in the air.

 

[Dotini]

Wut

If I understand the conspiracy claim correctly, the ostensible purpose of "chemtrails" is to mitigate global warming by producing more cloud cover. Since "chemtrails" are a fiction and do not exist, they obviously are not doing that. But if global warming is real, and "chemtrails" could actually produce more clouds and mitigate warming, then in theory they ought to be a good idea worth trying.

Hence I am taking the view that (1) normal contrails do a fine job of producing clouds, thus "chemtrails" are unnecessary, and/or (2) global warming is not (yet) serious, thus no serious measures are (yet) required to mitigate its effects.

 

[niky]

The question is... does the tiny extra strip of irregular and non-continuous cloud make up for the tons of burned "fossil" fuel used(and hence, the tons of carbon emitted) in-flight?

Probably not.

The answer is electric planes. Powered by hydrogen fuel cells. Perhaps Elon Musk will make them.

*the first two statements are (somewhat) jokes. I'm not sure the third is

 

[Ryanswannell]

If I understand the conspiracy claim correctly, the ostensible purpose of "chemtrails" is to mitigate global warming by producing more cloud cover.

That is one of the many claims from conspiracy theorists, but another is that these so-called "chemtrails" are dangerous gasses which are a) poisoning us, shortening life expectancy or b) altering various part of our physical/mental make-up, amongst various other claims .

I recommend taking these views with a pinch of salt, and a shot of tequila.

 

[Dotini]

I recommend taking these views with a pinch of salt, and a shot of tequila.

I recommend denying these views with utter contempt, jail time and shotgun blasts! Humans were made to scoff at danger and deal like real men with threats. Clearly men are masters of the universe. We don't give a rip who gets hurt along the way, as long as we impose our will over nature. Prof. Edward Teller, genius "Father of the Hydrogen Bomb", assured us we could alleviate global warming by seizing all gold on Earth, grinding it into powder, and launching it into space to form a reflective shield around Earth. "Ad Astra Per Asperum", said the Greeks. We are on a one-way path to our destiny in the stars!
Where is my tequila? Ah! glug.

 

[Enemem]

That is one of the many claims from conspiracy theorists, but another is that these so-called "chemtrails" are dangerous gasses which are a) poisoning us, shortening life expectancy or b) altering various part of our physical/mental make-up, amongst various other claims .

I recommend taking these views with a pinch of salt, and a shot of tequila.

First of all, don't assume that conspiracy theorists are as nutty as you. Secondly, I see no reason why chemical additives to normal aeroplane fuel, wouldn't be easy to be done secretly. Thirdly, could the purpose be for weather modification aka Haarp rather than destroying plants, or creating rain.#

 

[Azuremen]

What does that picture have to do with anything, at all?

 

[Ryanswannell]

First of all, don't assume that conspiracy theorists are as nutty as you.

What is so nutty about what I just said, exactly?

Secondly, I see no reason why chemical additives to normal aeroplane fuel, wouldn't be easy to be done secretly.

Maybe you're right, it wouldn't be so difficult. But it would be such an insignificant amount of chemical content in relation to the fuel itself that it would not make any difference at all.

 

[Famine]

Secondly, I see no reason why chemical additives to normal aeroplane fuel, wouldn't be easy to be done secretly.

If you didn't mind aeroplanes falling out of the sky, no, no reason at all.