Shooting at the Pennsylvania Republican Presidential Election Rally

[Joey D]

I can always count on TMZ to deliver information, even if it's in the most sensationalized way possible:

Trump Campaign Profiled Thomas Matthew Crooks' Father, Family Had MAGA Yard Sign

Donald Trump's presidential campaign once profiled the father of attempted assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks ... identifying the guy as a strong Republican who was into guns.

www.tmz.com

Thomas Matthew Crooks' Former Classmate Says He Was a Trump Hater

Thomas Matthew Crooks wasn't a fan of Donald Trump years before attempting to assassinate the former Prez ... so says one of his former classmates.

www.tmz.com

 

[McLaren]

Vince says he and Thomas had gotten into a heated debate ahead of the 2016 presidential election -- and he describes the guy as smug and arrogant when discussing topics he was passionate about, which included politics apparently.

12 year olds getting into heated political debates at school? Passionate about politics, but didn't like politicians & registered under a political party?


I think this guy is just happy to yap b/c there's a camera.

 

[MatskiMonk]

This would appear to be incorrect.

The cap was offered by AK Guy (Brandon Herrara) on Bunker, not by Matt Carriker or Demo Ranch.

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Versus the demo ranch page:

 

[TexRex]

This would appear to be incorrect.

The cap was offered by AK Guy (Brandon Herrara) on Bunker, not by Matt Carriker or Demo Ranch.

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Versus the demo ranch page:

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I gather Carriker owns the store carrying multiple YouTubers' IP.

Edit: Oh no, not the poopy!

 

[appu]

My wife mentioned just yesterday that any posts mentioning Project 2025 are now automatically getting taken down and any of the older posts about it removed.

This got me curious. I googled "project 2025 censored on facebook" and found this link
The title, as per google, says:
Wondering why your project 2025 posts are being censored

And guess what, the post cannot be found. This is likely not a private post because the page itself is public. So yeah, we got one possible proof that project 2025 is indeed being censored on facebook.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I gather Carriker owns the store carrying multiple YouTubers' IP.

Maybe, and I'm pretty sure he's done videos with Herrera too, but it's worth considering at the time he was selling "Make Politicians Afraid Again" caps, Herrera was standing as a candidate in Texas primary run-offs (getting 25% of the vote)...

Carricker's connection to the shooting is simply a Demo ranch T-shirt (and I'm happy to downplay that because as a Brit I think the American gun obsession is ******* stupid, and I've still made Demolition Ranch (and Kentucky Ballistics) decals for GT7) ... The Cap is merch from a different creator, who (as a Republican) demonstrably has form for challenging the Republican party not with guns, violence, or assassination attempts, but with votes at the ballot box. I'm not going to pretend to understand Texan politics, I'm just highlighting it because I think the images you posted ultimately paint a misleading picture.

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Edit: Oh no, not the poopy!

You comment on my Poo reaction, but not the like reactions. If you want to mock the usage of the rating system to disagree with your posts, why don't you mock the usage of the rating system to agree with what you've posted? Given that I've taken the time to demonstrate a reason for an opposing opinion, and those that liked your post couldn't even be arsed to do that, it seems a little... insecure.

 

[ScottPuss20]

And I'm guessing your parents, which you have previously stated you have taken on board as a source of information.

By all means listen to what your parents have to say but don't automatically believe everything they say as to be automatically correct and accurate, that's your job.
We live in a world with all the information you need at your fingertips, what is needed though is to decipher what that information really means. There's so much crap out there that that's where you need a level head and some critical thinking.

Not being antagonistic, just a little friendly advice.

I don't always believe everything they say.

Just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

An iceberg that I'm just beginning to discover, because clearly the stuff I read doesn't delve into it.

Climate change is an equal opportunity issue since everyone is effected by it, whether rich or poor. Even billionaires will feel the effects of climate change. Climate change will change how food is grown, how much water is available, and what sort of land is available to live on. I go back to when I lived in Utah and how climate change affected the Salt Lake City area. The Great Salt Lake is rapidly drying up despite a less severe drought. If the lake does dry up, the entire Salt Lake Valley will no longer be habitable since the bottom of the lake is full of toxic minerals. Arsenic clouds of dust will blow across the valley.

Climate change will cause mass migration and a strain on available resources. It will cause large, destructive storms that will devastate areas and cost billions of dollars. Wars will break out for resources or to prevent migration. And that's only a handful of things that will happen.

War isn't a huge threat on its own. Yes, it's worrisome, but it doesn't affect everyone, only the countries involved. Terrorism is the same way, except it affects even fewer people. And AI? I work with AI; it's so far from being a concern that it shouldn't even be on a list of concerning things. Could it become an issue in the future? Absolutely, but right now, it's not something we really need to worry about.

Climate change can and will cause worldwide problems if we're unprepared for it, and it will be far more costly than anything else.

Yeah I can understand the wide-reaching effects it can have on the whole world. The things I mentioned are either not apparent in all facets or totally non-existent in the case of AI. The need to maintain a healthy environment is critical.

 

[Danoff]

An iceberg that I'm just beginning to discover, because clearly the stuff I read doesn't delve into it.

Let's start with the basics. Trump lost the election. He started laying the seeds for his lie that he didn't lose it before the election happened. But the guy who bungled every aspect of the panedmic and was impeached (properly) twice, actually did lose the election. The people that went onto places like Fox News and Newsmax and lied about it (and those outlets themselves) have been sued successfully.

So I guess the first question is whether I've already lost you. Do you understand that the 2020 election was carried out under the most intense scrutiny and was properly certified for Biden? Or do you think somehow that it was "stolen".

Jan. 6th is next, but I want to pause here in case we're already far apart.

 

[Famine]

He started laying the seeds for his lie that he didn't lose it before the election happened.

Indeed before the previous one: Hillary Clinton called him on it during the 2016 debates...



Boy has that not aged at all.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Let's start with the basics. Trump lost the election. He started laying the seeds for his lie that he didn't lose it before the election happened. But the guy who bungled every aspect of the panedmic and was impeached (properly) twice, actually did lose the election. The people that went onto places like Fox News and Newsmax and lied about it (and those outlets themselves) have been sued successfully.

So I guess the first question is whether I've already lost you. Do you understand that the 2020 election was carried out under the most intense scrutiny and was properly certified for Biden? Or do you think somehow that it was "stolen".

Jan. 6th is next, but I want to pause here in case we're already far apart.

No I don't think the election was stolen.

 

[Populuxe]

For Trump, there are only two election results: he won, or he won but it was stolen. He is pathologically incapable of admitting defeat. It shows what a fragile ego he has. The reality, that he lost, is too damaging to his ego, so he literally twists his perception of reality to make it less threatening. He isn’t choosing to believe the election was stolen. He’s compelled to believe it. It’s the only way he can deal with the loss.

 

[HenrySwanson]

For Trump, there are only two election results: he won, or he won but it was stolen. He is pathologically incapable of admitting defeat. It shows what a fragile ego he has. The reality, that he lost, is too damaging to his ego, so he literally twists his perception of reality to make it less threatening. He isn’t choosing to believe the election was stolen. He’s compelled to believe it. It’s the only way he can deal with the loss.

And that is why his pathology is so much more dangerous than anything Biden may have.

 

[Danoff]

No I don't think the election was stolen.

Ok next up.

Trump knew the election was over. The results were in, and he lost. Yet he still encouraged a feverish crowd to march to the capitol building to give mike pence "encouragement" to "do the right thing". The right thing in this case being to overthrow democracy, and the encouragement being fear of the mob. Everyone in that mob knew what that meant, that they needed to storm the capitol.

The goal, Trump's goal, was to do exactly what he indicated in his debate with Biden about not honoring the results of the election - to get the mob to coerce the vice president into a scheme that was hatched by one of his administration (eastman) to prevent the transfer of power and end the US election cycle. Pence had refused when asked, and Trump decided an angry crowd might change his mind.

Still with me?

 

[ScottPuss20]

Ok next up.

Trump knew the election was over. The results were in, and he lost. Yet he still encouraged a feverish crowd to march to the capitol building to give mike pence "encouragement" to "do the right thing". The right thing in this case being to overthrow democracy, and the encouragement being fear of the mob. Everyone in that mob knew what that meant, that they needed to storm the capitol.

The goal, Trump's goal, was to do exactly what he indicated in his debate with Biden about not honoring the results of the election - to get the mob to coerce the vice president into a scheme that was hatched by one of his administration (eastman) to prevent the transfer of power and end the US election cycle. Pence had refused when asked, and Trump decided an angry crowd might change his mind.

Still with me?

Yes.

 

[UKMikey]

You comment on my Poo reaction, but not the like reactions. If you want to mock the usage of the rating system to disagree with your posts, why don't you mock the usage of the rating system to agree with what you've posted? Given that I've taken the time to demonstrate a reason for an opposing opinion, and those that liked your post couldn't even be arsed to do that, it seems a little... insecure.

Why should we be "arsed" to post a reaction? We liked his post. What more is there to say?

 

[Liquid]

He is pathologically incapable of admitting defeat. It shows what a fragile ego he has.

It shows that he's mentally unwell. And I don't mean that in a trivialising way, I'm completely serious about calling him that.

 

[Danoff]

Yes.

Ok great. So I mean I could keep going about his use of the pardon (both for jan 6th rioters and otherwise), attempt to overthrow the election in georgia, his numerous attacks on the first amendment, as well as project 2025, both impeachments, etc. but it seems like you're understanding pretty well why people hate Trump.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I have a theory that this kid was delusional enough to think he was going to kill both Trump AND Biden.

 

[Joey D]

I have a theory that this kid was delusional enough to think he was going to kill both Trump AND Biden.

It's starting to look like that and on the same day too. He posted on Steam, of all places, that the 13th would be the premiere day or something.

 

[UKMikey]

It's starting to look like that and on the same day too. He posted on Steam, of all places, that the 13th would be the premiere day or something.

He would've done the world a lot less damage had he attempted and failed to kill Joe first.

 

[TexRex]

Maybe, and I'm pretty sure he's done videos with Herrera too, but it's worth considering at the time he was selling "Make Politicians Afraid Again" caps, Herrera was standing as a candidate in Texas primary run-offs (getting 25% of the vote)...

Okay. Considered. The primary election was March 5th. The merchandise was available at least as late as July 5th, when it was last archived. The phrase has been around longer than Herrera's run.

Carricker's connection to the shooting is simply a Demo ranch T-shirt (and I'm happy to downplay that because as a Brit I think the American gun obsession is ******* stupid, and I've still made Demolition Ranch (and Kentucky Ballistics) decals for GT7) ... The Cap is merch from a different creator, who (as a Republican) demonstrably has form for challenging the Republican party not with guns, violence, or assassination attempts, but with votes at the ballot box. I'm not going to pretend to understand Texan politics, I'm just highlighting it because I think the images you posted ultimately paint a misleading picture.

As far as I can tell, Carriker has no connection to the shooting at all. A shirt isn't a connection. Coca-Cola wouldn't have had a connection to the shooting if the perpetrator had been wearing a shirt with their logo on it.

The cap was available through a company apparently owned by Carriker. That's certainly how I read the Bluesky post and before posting a screenshot of it here I looked into ownership of the company. It was founded by Carriker, purportedly as a means for other creators to offer merchandise and make money tangential to their media content. All that given, I really don't see how the post appearing in the screenshot is misleading. If anything is offered to contradict the above, I'm more than willing to reexamine. I know that I'm not infallible and I've been fooled before.

You want the message on the cap to mean one thing. Fine. Thing is, the cap doesn't actually explain itself and that it was offered alongside gun-related merchandise at minimum connotes violence in politics, even if that wasn't the intent. The phrase has certainly been used that way. And that one is seeking or holds political office does not mean that one is above extremist rhetoric. The fat bitch lieutenant governor of North Carolina, Mark Robinson, who is running for governor in the state, stated in a rant about socialists and communists and cancel culture and social media censorship (which isn't censorship at all because it lacks action separate from private property) that "some folks need killing" and Couy Griffin, county commissioner in New Mexico and founder of activist group Cowboys For Trump once remarked that "the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat" and that they could choose between firing squad and the gallows, before eventually being removed from office and incarcerated for direct involvement in the January 6th assault on the Capitol.

You comment on my Poo reaction, but not the like reactions. If you want to mock the usage of the rating system to disagree with your posts, why don't you mock the usage of the rating system to agree with what you've posted? Given that I've taken the time to demonstrate a reason for an opposing opinion, and those that liked your post couldn't even be arsed to do that, it seems a little... insecure.

lol. lmao, even. So I'm never not going to associate the poopy reaction with a certain one's hilarious bitchfits over criticisms of one's splotchy-bearded pasty bitch tech daddy Elon Musk. I, as well as others, have used it with humorous intent in response to content having to do with defecation or fecal matter, but the aforementioned bitchfits still immediately come to mind. Other than that, I don't really think about how or why others use reactions. It's all pretty arbitrary. I don't really care that nobody who liked my post saw fit to comment on it. If you want to obsess over it, fine, but I think that sounds awful.

 

[Meythia]

In total disrespect for the dead bystander.

 

[Blitz24]

In total disrespect for the dead bystander.

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10 Randomly autographed by who?

 

[Danoff]

In total disrespect for the dead bystander.

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Perfect for his moron supporters.

 

[TexRex]

TDS is epidemic in this thread.

 

[McLaren]

In total disrespect for the dead bystander.

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Guy followed a candidate who loved touting political aggression, barked it online just being a vile person, & then surprise, his violent political fantasies came knocking at the door. And of course, it would be same candidate who was not above using & dumping people for personal gain that added him to the list.


The leopard got him & it's hard to feel compassion for him.

 

[Keef]

It shows that he's mentally unwell. And I don't mean that in a trivialising way, I'm completely serious about calling him that.

In the same way serial killers or kleptomaniacs and the like are unwell, because they perceive reality in a way that isn't normal. Their basic ideas of right and wrong, truth, consequence, etc is all warped and doesn't make any sense to the rest of us, or obviously to the law which is based on normal reality. The reason he just can't quite handle rules and laws is because they don't make any sense with respect to his moral code.

Edit: And include the would-be assassin in that group of sick people as well.

 

[TB]

In total disrespect for the dead bystander.

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Another pair of shoes for Boebert to buy Chinese knockoffs.

 

[05XR8]

If anyone watches The Boys it’s very uncanny what’s happening on that show and what’s happening in real life. The Boys Season 4 was written a couple years ago. Crazy real life is mimicking the show.

 

[Keef]

If anyone watches The Boys it’s very uncanny what’s happening on that show and what’s happening in real life. The Boys Season 4 was written a couple years ago. Crazy real life is mimicking the show.

Haven't seen the new one yet but part of the reason we need shows like The Boys in order to be entertained is because real life is already pretty freaking ridiculous. There have already been movies and shows which are tamer than what is happening right now.