CLOSED POLL: The Photomode Competition 65 (Tied!)

[TheCracker]

I think many of the entries don't really follow the concept of theme - '70's styling'

The Superbirds, 2002's, Chargers and Jenson Interceptors were all styled in the 60's. The Alpine A110 is a '50's design! These cars might be produced between 1970 and 1979 - but they are not cars of that decade, not style wise.

Just saying.

 

[crowhop]

I think many of the entries don't really follow the concept of theme - '70's styling'

The Superbirds, 2002's, Chargers and Jenson Interceptors were all styled in the 60's. The Alpine A110 is a '50's design! These cars might be produced between 1970 and 1979 - but they are not cars of that decade, not style wise.

Just saying.

That's definitely fair to say.

However, which cars would fit?
The Nissan Fairlady looks like an E-Type Jaguar in many ways.
The BMW 2002 began production in the 60s.
The Lancia Stratos is a take off of the Miura from the 60s.
No American muscle car, aside from the Superbird, looks vastly different from a 60s Chevy Camaro.
From that we might only be left with the Countach and the Golf.
And the Golf isn't vastly different from a Mini or Fiat 500.

For me, I took a car from that decade (the Superbird) and made the best picture from it possible (the finish line at Daytona). The racing version of the car was so revolutionary rules were put into place to make it uncompetitive. And since it was Daytona 500 week, I figured I would pay tribute to the great American race.

 

[TheCracker]

That's definitely fair to say.

However, which cars would fit?
The Nissan Fairlady looks like an E-Type Jaguar in many ways.
The BMW 2002 began production in the 60s.
The Lancia Stratos is a take off of the Miura from the 60s.
No American muscle car, aside from the Superbird, looks vastly different from a 60s Chevy Camaro.
From that we might only be left with the Countach and the Golf.
And the Golf isn't vastly different from a Mini or Fiat 500.

For me, I took a car from that decade (the Superbird) and made the best picture from it possible (the finish line at Daytona). The racing version of the car was so revolutionary rules were put into place to make it uncompetitive. And since it was Daytona 500 week, I figured I would pay tribute to the great American race.

Off the top of my head, LP400 Countach, Lancia Stratos, Ferrari 512BB, Dome Zero, Golf GTi, 240/280Z, Autobianchi plus a whole host of the Japanese cars are so indicative of '70's style' in my opinion.

That's not in any way a criticism of the quality of the pictures posted - most of them are fantastic - it's just that i sometimes think that folks are submitting artwork that just doesn't comply fully with the brief given. When i look through the entries in the polls, the first thing i do is look at the subject matter rules. Any picture that doesn't fit in with what the previous winner has asked for, i immediately skip over. Sometimes these images will be really great shots, but if it doesn't fit the brief i won't vote for it.

Maybe it's just me and the industry i work in that's made me this way, but when there is such high quality stuff posted on a weekly basis, stuff that doesn't fit in grates with me.

 

[zambuca]

I don't get it...I'm the only one who has voted for #2

That 2002 body is really great IMO and the idea and composition too.

 

[BluckBoster]

I guess that the paper board like spectators put this off your choice, and not being 70's enough?

Honestly I like the shot and the car is definitely 70s but that colour just make the car look flat and cartoon like. I think that was an original colour for the stratos not sure but anyway I wouldn't have bought 1...

zambuca
I don't get it...I'm the only one who has voted for #2

That 2002 body is really great IMO and the idea and composition too.

I'm surprised it hasn't got more votes too, composition is excellent.
but it didn't get my vote I couldn't help but think of 70's car mags when looking at #1...

 

[hgrf93]

Off the top of my head, LP400 Countach, Lancia Stratos, Ferrari 512BB, Dome Zero, Golf GTi, 240/280Z, Autobianchi plus a whole host of the Japanese cars are so indicative of '70's style' in my opinion.

That's not in any way a criticism of the quality of the pictures posted - most of them are fantastic - it's just that i sometimes think that folks are submitting artwork that just doesn't comply fully with the brief given. When i look through the entries in the polls, the first thing i do is look at the subject matter rules. Any picture that doesn't fit in with what the previous winner has asked for, i immediately skip over. Sometimes these images will be really great shots, but if it doesn't fit the brief i won't vote for it.

Maybe it's just me and the industry i work in that's made me this way, but when there is such high quality stuff posted on a weekly basis, stuff that doesn't fit in grates with me.

I think you are right in most of what you say. Nevertheless I do think that the superbird fits the theme just right since it is a 70s car and the 512bb couldn't be used since it is premium.

 

[cphbullet]

I guess that the paper board like spectators put this off your choice, and not being 70's enough?

I thought id help give some feedback with this weeks PMC. Yes the 2 points of the crowd and paper board dont really help, try to avoid 'race track' design circuits especially towns when trying to create a nostalgic feel, certain parts of tracks like monza, laguna seca and the nurburgring are ok, its probably best to stick to toscana, eiger or chamonix to get a nostalgic atmosphere. Another thing to note is your photo doesn't have a lot of depth to it, try adjusting the focal point to blur or sharpen the background/foreground, I discovered this recently and ive noticed a significant improvement in my pictures. Also its probably best not to take a shot with smoke unless its behind the car as it blurs the object behind it and generally the graphic design of the smoke on GT5 doesn't photograph well so even when the smoke is behind the car be careful about photographing, ive only really ever seen good photos involving smoke when they have been edited well. A final thing to note is it looks like your using 'mode 1', use 'mode 3' when photographing a speeding, im not sure but it looks better.
Anyway your making a good start, take what i and others have said on board and you'll be on your way.
Good luck with future shots.

 

[crowhop]

Off the top of my head, LP400 Countach, Lancia Stratos, Ferrari 512BB, Dome Zero, Golf GTi, 240/280Z, Autobianchi plus a whole host of the Japanese cars are so indicative of '70's style' in my opinion.

That's not in any way a criticism of the quality of the pictures posted - most of them are fantastic - it's just that i sometimes think that folks are submitting artwork that just doesn't comply fully with the brief given. When i look through the entries in the polls, the first thing i do is look at the subject matter rules. Any picture that doesn't fit in with what the previous winner has asked for, i immediately skip over. Sometimes these images will be really great shots, but if it doesn't fit the brief i won't vote for it.

Maybe it's just me and the industry i work in that's made me this way, but when there is such high quality stuff posted on a weekly basis, stuff that doesn't fit in grates with me.

The Stratos was designed by the same guy who designed the Miura. The styling queues are the same.
The Autobianchi was part of the Fiat (500) umbrella.
The Golf resembles the Fiat 500 as well.
The 512BB was based on the 365 GT4 BB which was Ferrari's answer to the Miura.
The 240Z began production in the 60s and the 280Z isn't much different. And they resemble the Toyota 2000GT, Shelby Cobra Coupe and the E-Type Jaguar.

The Dome Zero fits, I agree, but the almost every single car has roots in the previous generation. It is almost impossible to pen a particular decade as "unique" in the automotive world.

 

[mattmflok]

Honestly I like the shot and the car is definitely 70s but that colour just make the car look flat and cartoon like. I think that was an original colour for the stratos not sure but anyway I wouldn't have bought 1...

BB: yes it was a prize (or a ticket) car and I got it in that colour (now kicking myself for not repainting it...ergh!)

I thought id help give some feedback with this weeks PMC. Yes the 2 points of the crowd and paper board dont really help, try to avoid 'race track' design circuits especially towns when trying to create a nostalgic feel, certain parts of tracks like monza, laguna seca and the nurburgring are ok, its probably best to stick to toscana, eiger or chamonix to get a nostalgic atmosphere. Another thing to note is your photo doesn't have a lot of depth to it, try adjusting the focal point to blur or sharpen the background/foreground, I discovered this recently and ive noticed a significant improvement in my pictures. Also its probably best not to take a shot with smoke unless its behind the car as it blurs the object behind it and generally the graphic design of the smoke on GT5 doesn't photograph well so even when the smoke is behind the car be careful about photographing, ive only really ever seen good photos involving smoke when they have been edited well. A final thing to note is it looks like your using 'mode 1', use 'mode 3' when photographing a speeding, im not sure but it looks better.
Anyway your making a good start, take what i and others have said on board and you'll be on your way.
Good luck with future shots

thank you for your kind advice

the other classic/nostalgic track i had in mind was cote d'azur (monaco)

 

[gjeff12]

Off the top of my head, LP400 Countach, Lancia Stratos, Ferrari 512BB, Dome Zero, Golf GTi, 240/280Z, Autobianchi plus a whole host of the Japanese cars are so indicative of '70's style' in my opinion.

That's not in any way a criticism of the quality of the pictures posted - most of them are fantastic - it's just that i sometimes think that folks are submitting artwork that just doesn't comply fully with the brief given. When i look through the entries in the polls, the first thing i do is look at the subject matter rules. Any picture that doesn't fit in with what the previous winner has asked for, i immediately skip over. Sometimes these images will be really great shots, but if it doesn't fit the brief i won't vote for it.

Maybe it's just me and the industry i work in that's made me this way, but when there is such high quality stuff posted on a weekly basis, stuff that doesn't fit in grates with me.

That's the same way I feel. I vote by theme over artistic merit, although it must have both. The only reason it bugs me though, is because the people who pick the non-conforming shots are the same ones who made the theme.

 

[gjeff12]

Any feedback?

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Interesting to note that out of all the poll shots, all but three cars were used multiple times.

Sorry, I have to correct myself on the number of cars used only once. Here's a tally:
Alpine A310 I
Alpine A110 IIII
BMW 2002 III
Plymouth 'Cuda III
VW GTI II
Chevy Chevelle III
Plymouth Superbird IIII
Dodge Challenger II
Lancia Stratos I
Jensen Interceptor I
Nissan 240/80Z II
Fiat 500 I
Lamborghini Countach I

(Note that the Superbird is really a pointy Challenger with a wing)

 

[mattmflok]

Sorry, I have to correct myself on the number of cars used only once. Here's a tally:
Alpine A310 I
Alpine A110 IIII
BMW 2002 III
Plymouth 'Cuda III
VW GTI II
Chevy Chevelle III
Plymouth Superbird IIII
Dodge Challenger II
Lancia Stratos I
Jensen Interceptor I
Nissan 240/80Z II
Fiat 500 I
Lamborghini Countach I

(Note that the Superbird is really a pointy Challenger with a wing)

I strongly suggest you go through the thread of entries before putting up this tally, because as far as I recall there were at least 4 Stratoses

 

[gjeff12]

I strongly suggest you go through the thread of entries before putting up this tally, because as far as I recall there were at least 4 Stratoses

Oops, I meant from the poll.

 

[mattmflok]

Oops, I meant from the poll.

oops, i didn't look as well

 

[AerodyManiac]

No votes as usual...

 

[gjeff12]

No votes as usual...

That sounds like you make the polls often. Just be happy you get selected. I've only been in 3 polls and all of them were because everyone got in.

 

[AerodyManiac]

That sounds like you make the polls often. Just be happy you get selected. I've only been in 3 polls and all of them were because everyone got in.

I only made into the poll for a few times (less than 10, if I'm correct). It sometimes feel worse when you didn't got any votes in a poll

 

[TheCracker]

I think you are right in most of what you say. Nevertheless I do think that the superbird fits the theme just right since it is a 70s car and the 512bb couldn't be used since it is premium.

I think you're right with the Superbird. it may have been based on a car from the (late) '60's - but the wing and nose cone are pure early 70's.

The Stratos was designed by the same guy who designed the Miura. The styling queues are the same.
The Autobianchi was part of the Fiat (500) umbrella.
The Golf resembles the Fiat 500 as well.
The 512BB was based on the 365 GT4 BB which was Ferrari's answer to the Miura.
The 240Z began production in the 60s and the 280Z isn't much different. And they resemble the Toyota 2000GT, Shelby Cobra Coupe and the E-Type Jaguar.

The Dome Zero fits, I agree, but the almost every single car has roots in the previous generation. It is almost impossible to pen a particular decade as "unique" in the automotive world.

The Miura and Stratos look nothing alike. The Miura is very late 60's where as the Stratos couldn't be more 70's. The Autobianchi and it's squared-off styling is also pure 70's. The Berlinetta Boxer was Ferrari's answer to the Countach, if anything, and is worlds apart from it's 60's predecessor - the 365 GTB/4 'Daytona'

The 240Z i guess is a bit different. It did begin production in the very late '60's - and it's design is a nod to the 2000GT, E-Type and particularly the Ferrari 250 GTO. But i would say that the later 280z with all its matt black plastic add-ons, like the 'federalized' MGB is very much a 70's car.

 

[Bom15]

I think you're right with the Superbird. it may have been based on a car from the (late) '60's - but the wing and nose cone are pure early 70's.

Wing and nose cone where on the 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona. Plymouth 'borrowed' it for there Superbird for the 1970 NASCAR season. So really it is 60's.

I think 70's styling is generally associated with the wedge shape. Stratos, Countach the Dome. The Alpine Renault design is actually 50's. The Z's difficult. It's shape does hark back to the 60's. But i always think of them as 70's. Especially the later they get. More pointy and less rounded. Muscle car designs are 60's imo. Starting with the Stang, Firebird and camaro. It was just the engines that changed really.

 

[J91patriz]

I used an Autobianchi for the competition but apparently my picture wasn't good enough still it's true 70's remind me of squared styling for cars. That was the main reason for using the Autobianchi.

 

[crowhop]

The Miura and Stratos look nothing alike. The Miura is very late 60's where as the Stratos couldn't be more 70's. The Autobianchi and it's squared-off styling is also pure 70's. The Berlinetta Boxer was Ferrari's answer to the Countach, if anything, and is worlds apart from it's 60's predecessor - the 365 GTB/4 'Daytona'

The 240Z i guess is a bit different. It did begin production in the very late '60's - and it's design is a nod to the 2000GT, E-Type and particularly the Ferrari 250 GTO. But i would say that the later 280z with all its matt black plastic add-ons, like the 'federalized' MGB is very much a 70's car.

No offense, but this is mostly just plain wrong.

 

[TheCracker]

No offense, but this is mostly just plain wrong.

In what way. Please explain.

 

[Miklad]

Wow - close call this one!

Thanks to all who voted for my favourite car ever - appreciated! 👍

 

[BluckBoster]

This is really close 5 shots fighting it out...
140 votes and we might just have a winner....by 1 vote

 

[Eric Demory]

Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit, we've got a tie.

 

[BluckBoster]

Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit, we've got a tie.

I take it that means we have to decide between a shot of the front or the back of a car lol
bring on the TIE BREAK POLL

 

[AerodyManiac]

Thanks for the vote, J91patriz